Steve Jobs RIP

[nifan]

I think some people are overselling a lot of the tech advances apple made - their strength was in the packaging of existing tech and making it more attractive to the consumer.

Even their MacOS is gloss on something else.

They did that amazingly well however.

In the early days they where much more techie - the Woz was the main man there, but jobs got him to do stuff, and he drove it forward. Woz would still be tinkering in his garage now otherwise

[muppet]

In the early days they where much more techie - the Woz was the main man there, but obs got him to do stuff, and he drove it forward. Woz would still be tinkering in his garage now otherwise

And Hardy would be telling us about Mers Kutt via smoke signals.

[seafoid]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1006/breaking17.html

"Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish"

Sure. Say you are a borrower in 200K in negative equity in a rural town.
You go to discuss the situation with the bank. And adopt a "stay hungry stay foolish" approach. 
the house is repossessed.

You are a corner back on the parish junior C's
The ball comes in.
You adopt a stay foolish approach and stick it in the back of your own net.   

[nrico2006]

Jobs seems to get all the credit for everything Apple ever achieved when it seems that it was others who did all the work regarding the designing of their merchandise from the original apple machine to the ipad. 

[Hardy]

In the early days they where much more techie - the Woz was the main man there, but obs got him to do stuff, and he drove it forward. Woz would still be tinkering in his garage now otherwise

And Hardy would be telling us about Mers Kutt via smoke signals.

That's the point, indeed. Mers's company went bust before he had sold more than a couple of thousand MC70s. His Key Edit company (he invented the technology that replaced punched cards for data entry, too) was taken over too and he didn't make a penny out of that. I worked for him when he was making his third fortune on the All ChargeCard. Same story again. He has an ongoing lawsuit with Intel over copyright infringement by their Pentium processor.

If 'd been Steve Jobs, All Computers would be today's Apple and I'd be claiming credit for inventing the personal computer. Of course I'd also be dead, so I'm happy enough with the outcome. So far.

[imtommygunn]

Apples strength is their interfaces more than anything else. The usability was a massive advancement and the ibrand was one of their key successes.

They may have harnessed technology which existed but they changed the way people viewed technology.( moreso among the non techy of us might I add but non techy describes a large percentage of the population). The usability of their gear is very impressive.

[muppet]

Jobs seems to get all the credit for everything Apple ever achieved when it seems that it was others who did all the work regarding the designing of their merchandise from the original apple machine to the ipad.

Michael O'Leary gets all the credit for anything Ryanair did. His biography claims he would have fired the girl who set up the website had he known she wasn't doing what she was supposed to be doing. He nows take the credit for the website and closing all the travel agents.

Dems the breaks.

[Main Street]

Apple (never mind Jobs) didn't give us the MP3 player. Or the smart phone. Or the personal computer, for that matter*. Granted they did invent the yoke that's too big to be a phone, too powerless to be a computer, too big to put in your pocket ... but they put an "i" before the name of that electronic notepad and made a fortune out of it. That's genius, but it's the genius of P.T. Barnum.

*The first personal computer was developed by my old friend and employer, Mers Kutt.

For sure Apple didn't invent the portable mp3 player but the Apple iPod classic was sporting a 80gb drive, whilst competitors had a 1, 2 or 4gb drive. All ipod players were streamlined (locked) into compatibility with software which elegantly helped you to sort out your music library.  Even a baby could negotiate setting up the iPod to sync with selected items from the music library.
Most every other relevant consumer items had to become iPod compatible as a feature, from the audio head unit in your car to iPod docks on a player.

There is a genius in making things work and Apple do that very well

[ziggysego]

[seafoid]

Will Apple still be worth in excess of $300bn in 5 years time ?

[Hardy]

Will Apple still be worth in excess of $300bn in 5 years time ?

Possibly. But will $300bn be worth $300bn in 5 years time?

[thebigfella]

Will Apple still be worth in excess of $300bn in 5 years time ?

If it's not, I'm sure you'll be able to post an article on how it's Israel's fault.

[Puckoon]

Great speech from Jobs here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA

Well worth the 15 Mins ..

RIP

It is sad that Steve Jobs has died - but it comes to all of us - the great leveller indeed.

That said - some of the nonsense in the commencement speech is just that - nonsense. No harm to Mr Jobs - but it's easy to stand up there and tell people to follow their dreams and stay hungry and stay foolish - when you've billions in your back pocket. For every Steve Jobs there are millions of us who can't stay hungry or stay foolish - otheriwse the kids and the wife would stay hungry. I'd love to tell my boss that there have been too many mornings where I woke up and thought to myself that if today is my last day on earth that I am most certainly not spending it doing the things I want to do, and that I have to quit my job. But I cant. I have bills to pay and mouths to feed. All this dreamy stuff is just nonsense.

[imtommygunn]

If everyone thought like that where would we be though.  This guy didn't which has been a great help in advancing day to day technology.

[Minder]

This changes everything.