9/11: Tenth Anniversary

[4father]

Awful massacre that took place and it will never be forgotten unlike this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbC5f2z6PmI&sns=em

[lawnseed]

Awful massacre that took place and it will never be forgotten unlike this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbC5f2z6PmI&sns=em

yes your right. but your not allowed to go poking through americas skeletons especially today

[Gabriel_Hurl]

No matter what your politics, no matter what you think of Americas actions since that day, 2,900+ ordinary people went to work on that Tuesday morning. Someone like your Dad, your best friend or you. They went to work because they had bills to pay, ordinary lives taken away.

They didn't come home.

[isourboydownyet]

with all the coverage one video clip really sends shivers down my spine and that is watching people jump from the top floors,unbelievable.

[ross matt]

No matter what your politics, no matter what you think of Americas actions since that day, 2,900+ ordinary people went to work on that Tuesday morning. Someone like your Dad, your best friend or you. They went to work because they had bills to pay, ordinary lives taken away.

They didn't come home.

Best post by far Gabriel. Its the only thing that should have been remembered yesterday.

[Tyrones own]

Exactly...some on here simply can't turn it off!

[ross matt]

Exactly...some on here simply can't turn it off!

Indeed.

[ross4life]

Very moving video sums up 9/11 best i feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzITGC1LCg

[Eamonnca1]

Watching a memorial service on BBC there where Charles & Camilla turned up for it. There is white pvc garden chairs for everyone to sit on but the only 2 chairs that had cushions (not matching  ) on them were for guess who .......

Outrageous! The least they could have done was make them match!

[new devil]

Very moving video sums up 9/11 best i feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzITGC1LCg

Thats heartbreaking stuff

[orangeman]

Former New York police officers and firefighters were among 106 people charged over a "massive fraud" worth hundreds of millions of dollars, some in connection with the 11 September attacks.
The accused allegedly collected tens of thousands of dollars a year in social security disability benefits, which are funded by taxpayers.
It is alleged they claimed they were completely incapacitated by serious psychiatric disorders and other ailments.
But, according to court documents, they were in fact living normal lives, one of the accused flew a helicopter, while another played blackjack in Las Vegas.
One of the accused taught and performed mixed martial arts, but was still claiming benefits of typically between $30,000 and $50,000 a year (€22,000-€37,000).
In some instances, the total amount fraudulently obtained was nearly $500,000 (€367,000) per applicant.
Of those indicted in the decades-long scam, 80 were retired New York police officers or firefighters.
"Many participants cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of September 11, dishonouring the first responders who did serve their city at the expense of their own health and safety," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement.
As far back as 1988, the four main defendants - Raymond Lavallee, 83, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 64, and John Minerva, 61 - conspired to help or make hundreds of applicants falsely claim disabilities in order to collect benefit payments in addition to their public pensions, the indictment and court documents showed.
Prosecutors said the applicants claimed they suffered from a psychiatric condition that prevented them from working, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety or depression.
"This alleged scam further depleted the already limited resources available for battling the real and complex conditions of PTSD and depression," Mr Vance said.
New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said: "The retired members of the NYPD indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on September 11, 2001, and those who subsequently died from 9/11 related illness, by exploiting their involvements that tragic day for personal gain."
Mr Hale and Mr Esposito, the latter a retired member of the NYPD, allegedly coached benefit applicants to falsely describe symptoms of depression and anxiety to doctors they had recruited.
They instructed applicants on how to fail memory tests with plausibility, how to dress, and on their demeanour.
For example, almost every claim included phrases such as "I nap on and off during the day" and "I have the TV on to keep me company".

[seafoid]

Former New York police officers and firefighters were among 106 people charged over a "massive fraud" worth hundreds of millions of dollars, some in connection with the 11 September attacks.
The accused allegedly collected tens of thousands of dollars a year in social security disability benefits, which are funded by taxpayers.
It is alleged they claimed they were completely incapacitated by serious psychiatric disorders and other ailments.
But, according to court documents, they were in fact living normal lives, one of the accused flew a helicopter, while another played blackjack in Las Vegas.
One of the accused taught and performed mixed martial arts, but was still claiming benefits of typically between $30,000 and $50,000 a year (€22,000-€37,000).
In some instances, the total amount fraudulently obtained was nearly $500,000 (€367,000) per applicant.
Of those indicted in the decades-long scam, 80 were retired New York police officers or firefighters.
"Many participants cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of September 11, dishonouring the first responders who did serve their city at the expense of their own health and safety," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement.
As far back as 1988, the four main defendants - Raymond Lavallee, 83, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 64, and John Minerva, 61 - conspired to help or make hundreds of applicants falsely claim disabilities in order to collect benefit payments in addition to their public pensions, the indictment and court documents showed.
Prosecutors said the applicants claimed they suffered from a psychiatric condition that prevented them from working, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety or depression.
"This alleged scam further depleted the already limited resources available for battling the real and complex conditions of PTSD and depression," Mr Vance said.
New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said: "The retired members of the NYPD indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on September 11, 2001, and those who subsequently died from 9/11 related illness, by exploiting their involvements that tragic day for personal gain."
Mr Hale and Mr Esposito, the latter a retired member of the NYPD, allegedly coached benefit applicants to falsely describe symptoms of depression and anxiety to doctors they had recruited.
They instructed applicants on how to fail memory tests with plausibility, how to dress, and on their demeanour.
For example, almost every claim included phrases such as "I nap on and off during the day" and "I have the TV on to keep me company".

The article says some people claimed up to half a million, there were 106 of them and the total amount misclaimed was in the hundreds of millions

1/2 * 106 million is 53 million   

A drop in the ocean compared to the 3 trillion (3 million million) spent fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan
How much did Halliburton and Lockheed cream btw ?

[J70]

Former New York police officers and firefighters were among 106 people charged over a "massive fraud" worth hundreds of millions of dollars, some in connection with the 11 September attacks.
The accused allegedly collected tens of thousands of dollars a year in social security disability benefits, which are funded by taxpayers.
It is alleged they claimed they were completely incapacitated by serious psychiatric disorders and other ailments.
But, according to court documents, they were in fact living normal lives, one of the accused flew a helicopter, while another played blackjack in Las Vegas.
One of the accused taught and performed mixed martial arts, but was still claiming benefits of typically between $30,000 and $50,000 a year (€22,000-€37,000).
In some instances, the total amount fraudulently obtained was nearly $500,000 (€367,000) per applicant.
Of those indicted in the decades-long scam, 80 were retired New York police officers or firefighters.
"Many participants cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of September 11, dishonouring the first responders who did serve their city at the expense of their own health and safety," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement.
As far back as 1988, the four main defendants - Raymond Lavallee, 83, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 64, and John Minerva, 61 - conspired to help or make hundreds of applicants falsely claim disabilities in order to collect benefit payments in addition to their public pensions, the indictment and court documents showed.
Prosecutors said the applicants claimed they suffered from a psychiatric condition that prevented them from working, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety or depression.
"This alleged scam further depleted the already limited resources available for battling the real and complex conditions of PTSD and depression," Mr Vance said.
New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said: "The retired members of the NYPD indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on September 11, 2001, and those who subsequently died from 9/11 related illness, by exploiting their involvements that tragic day for personal gain."
Mr Hale and Mr Esposito, the latter a retired member of the NYPD, allegedly coached benefit applicants to falsely describe symptoms of depression and anxiety to doctors they had recruited.
They instructed applicants on how to fail memory tests with plausibility, how to dress, and on their demeanour.
For example, almost every claim included phrases such as "I nap on and off during the day" and "I have the TV on to keep me company".

The article says some people claimed up to half a million, there were 106 of them and the total amount misclaimed was in the hundreds of millions

1/2 * 106 million is 53 million   

A drop in the ocean compared to the 3 trillion (3 million million) spent fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan
How much did Halliburton and Lockheed cream btw ?

What have Halliburton in Iraq got to do with this?

[muppet]

Former New York police officers and firefighters were among 106 people charged over a "massive fraud" worth hundreds of millions of dollars, some in connection with the 11 September attacks.
The accused allegedly collected tens of thousands of dollars a year in social security disability benefits, which are funded by taxpayers.
It is alleged they claimed they were completely incapacitated by serious psychiatric disorders and other ailments.
But, according to court documents, they were in fact living normal lives, one of the accused flew a helicopter, while another played blackjack in Las Vegas.
One of the accused taught and performed mixed martial arts, but was still claiming benefits of typically between $30,000 and $50,000 a year (€22,000-€37,000).
In some instances, the total amount fraudulently obtained was nearly $500,000 (€367,000) per applicant.
Of those indicted in the decades-long scam, 80 were retired New York police officers or firefighters.
"Many participants cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of September 11, dishonouring the first responders who did serve their city at the expense of their own health and safety," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement.
As far back as 1988, the four main defendants - Raymond Lavallee, 83, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 64, and John Minerva, 61 - conspired to help or make hundreds of applicants falsely claim disabilities in order to collect benefit payments in addition to their public pensions, the indictment and court documents showed.
Prosecutors said the applicants claimed they suffered from a psychiatric condition that prevented them from working, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety or depression.
"This alleged scam further depleted the already limited resources available for battling the real and complex conditions of PTSD and depression," Mr Vance said.
New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said: "The retired members of the NYPD indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on September 11, 2001, and those who subsequently died from 9/11 related illness, by exploiting their involvements that tragic day for personal gain."
Mr Hale and Mr Esposito, the latter a retired member of the NYPD, allegedly coached benefit applicants to falsely describe symptoms of depression and anxiety to doctors they had recruited.
They instructed applicants on how to fail memory tests with plausibility, how to dress, and on their demeanour.
For example, almost every claim included phrases such as "I nap on and off during the day" and "I have the TV on to keep me company".

How could false claims arising out of 911 be part of a decades old scam?

And flying a helicopter, playing blackjack in Las Vegas and performing mixed martial arts is hardly living a 'normal life', is it?

Some people would consider some or even all of these activities nuts and proof of PTSD.

(Not me, I'd love to play blackjack while perfuming martial arts in a helicopter.)

[LeoMc]

Former New York police officers and firefighters were among 106 people charged over a "massive fraud" worth hundreds of millions of dollars, some in connection with the 11 September attacks.
The accused allegedly collected tens of thousands of dollars a year in social security disability benefits, which are funded by taxpayers.
It is alleged they claimed they were completely incapacitated by serious psychiatric disorders and other ailments.
But, according to court documents, they were in fact living normal lives, one of the accused flew a helicopter, while another played blackjack in Las Vegas.
One of the accused taught and performed mixed martial arts, but was still claiming benefits of typically between $30,000 and $50,000 a year (€22,000-€37,000).
In some instances, the total amount fraudulently obtained was nearly $500,000 (€367,000) per applicant.
Of those indicted in the decades-long scam, 80 were retired New York police officers or firefighters.
"Many participants cynically manufactured claims of mental illness as a result of September 11, dishonouring the first responders who did serve their city at the expense of their own health and safety," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said in a statement.
As far back as 1988, the four main defendants - Raymond Lavallee, 83, Thomas Hale, 89, Joseph Esposito, 64, and John Minerva, 61 - conspired to help or make hundreds of applicants falsely claim disabilities in order to collect benefit payments in addition to their public pensions, the indictment and court documents showed.
Prosecutors said the applicants claimed they suffered from a psychiatric condition that prevented them from working, such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), anxiety or depression.
"This alleged scam further depleted the already limited resources available for battling the real and complex conditions of PTSD and depression," Mr Vance said.
New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said: "The retired members of the NYPD indicted in this case have disgraced all first responders who perished during the search and rescue efforts on September 11, 2001, and those who subsequently died from 9/11 related illness, by exploiting their involvements that tragic day for personal gain."
Mr Hale and Mr Esposito, the latter a retired member of the NYPD, allegedly coached benefit applicants to falsely describe symptoms of depression and anxiety to doctors they had recruited.
They instructed applicants on how to fail memory tests with plausibility, how to dress, and on their demeanour.
For example, almost every claim included phrases such as "I nap on and off during the day" and "I have the TV on to keep me company".

How could false claims arising out of 911 be part of a decades old scam?

And flying a helicopter, playing blackjack in Las Vegas and performing mixed martial arts is hardly living a 'normal life', is it?

Some people would consider some or even all of these activities nuts and proof of PTSD.

(Not me, I'd love to play blackjack while perfuming martial arts in a helicopter.)

If you had highlighted just the one word instead of the complete first sentence you could have answered your own question!