1981 remembered

[glens abu]

Some more pics I've came across from Camlough yesterday:

Great pics Nally of what was a great day,lovely to hear Francis and Tom's niece sing two very moving songs.

[Farrandeelin]

Great pics there Nally, don't let mghu taint all Mayo people with the same brush. Afterall, we had Frank Stagg and Michael Gaughan, who died for the cause as well.

[glens abu]

Great pics there Nally, don't let mghu taint all Mayo people with the same brush. Afterall, we had Frank Stagg and Michael Gaughan, who died for the cause as well.

They were remembered yesterday as well,two very brave men from Mayo who died in an English jail. l

[Nally Stand]

Great pics there Nally, don't let mghu taint all Mayo people with the same brush. Afterall, we had Frank Stagg and Michael Gaughan, who died for the cause as well.

Don't worry Farrandeelin, Not to change the subject but I have a genuine respect for Mayo in particular after we played yis in the League after Cormac McAnallen's death. The reception that met the Tyrone fans and team was just incredible. More on topic, and as you say yourself, Mayo gave us some great men like Stagg and Gaughan. Always like to see their names included so much in commemorations of the '81 Hunger Strikers.

[Oraisteach]

Nally, thanks for recommending the hunger strike podcast--most engaging

[4father]

A lot of nonsense,live in the real world the Republican groups who oppose Sinn Fein don't want to be associated them. Their agenda is Sinn fein bashing so they should join the RSF[or is it real RSF]commemoration in Bundoran or arrange for 32 county,RSF,RRSF,ONH,IRSP,RNU,EirigEgos,and all the rest to organise a joint commemoration.We will continue to rem the brave men who died on Hunger strike every year and if people like you don't want to attend that's your choice.

By 'we', i'm assuming you mean Sinn Fein?  If it is, then your attitude is sadly typical of a lot of SF attitudes to those who do not agree.  'You' like to lump lots of people into the one corner and just call them dissidents or derogatory names like 'EirigEgos' etc.  Equally the SF bashers like ONH, RSF etc call SF supporters, maybe like yourself, sheep.

I don't engage in that type of crap like you just have.  I was a member of SF but left when, in my opinion, one contradiction too much occurred but didn't choose to join any of these groups because like SF, I don't believe that any of them will achieve a 32 county united socialist republic with their activities.  But I bet ya you thought I was a member of one of these groups and thought, I'll have a dig at the dissident here.

My argument stands, SF control the National Hunger Strike committee and I don't care about any of the other groups attending or not, I'm speaking on my own behalf as an Irish republican who has been in jail and whose family has been in jail.  When you say that 'we' will remember the hunger strikers, you are admitting/of the opinion that SF organise the rally when, in my humble opinion and not from a SF bashing or a political grouping point of view for the record, it should be party political free. 

Republicans of all shades should be able to nationally commemorate the hunger strikers sacrifice and that is why there was a National Hunger Strike committee set up. 

[glens abu]

A lot of nonsense,live in the real world the Republican groups who oppose Sinn Fein don't want to be associated them. Their agenda is Sinn fein bashing so they should join the RSF[or is it real RSF]commemoration in Bundoran or arrange for 32 county,RSF,RRSF,ONH,IRSP,RNU,EirigEgos,and all the rest to organise a joint commemoration.We will continue to rem the brave men who died on Hunger strike every year and if people like you don't want to attend that's your choice.

By 'we', i'm assuming you mean Sinn Fein?  If it is, then your attitude is sadly typical of a lot of SF attitudes to those who do not agree.  'You' like to lump lots of people into the one corner and just call them dissidents or derogatory names like 'EirigEgos' etc.  Equally the SF bashers like ONH, RSF etc call SF supporters, maybe like yourself, sheep.

I don't engage in that type of crap like you just have.  I was a member of SF but left when, in my opinion, one contradiction too much occurred but didn't choose to join any of these groups because like SF, I don't believe that any of them will achieve a 32 county united socialist republic with their activities.  But I bet ya you thought I was a member of one of these groups and thought, I'll have a dig at the dissident here.

My argument stands, SF control the National Hunger Strike committee and I don't care about any of the other groups attending or not, I'm speaking on my own behalf as an Irish republican who has been in jail and whose family has been in jail.  When you say that 'we' will remember the hunger strikers, you are admitting/of the opinion that SF organise the rally when, in my humble opinion and not from a SF bashing or a political grouping point of view for the record, it should be party political free. 

Republicans of all shades should be able to nationally commemorate the hunger strikers sacrifice and that is why there was a National Hunger Strike committee set up.

That's fine and I apologise if I put you in a bracket that I shouldn't but have been listening to Sinn Fein bashing for years now from those who don't agree with their strategy.People who for no other reason than their Egos.I realise there are Republicans out there who don't agree on a matter of principle and I take you are one .I just think we have to be realistic about the commemorations and cant see those who oppose Sinn |fein sitting on any committee with them,I'm sure you will agree with that,so don't see why there cannot be separate events and then everyone can attend at least one.

[Myles Na G.]

Still remember where I was when I heard the news that John Lennon had been killed. True hero.

[Nally Stand]

Nally, thanks for recommending the hunger strike podcast--most engaging

It was surprisingly balanced and mildly toned throughout which is what makes it so good I think. Makes a nice change from the usual confrontational debate format of radio interviews on such topics.

[pintsofguinness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h90w9ocA9O4&feature=feedrec_grec_index

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NwW1zJtEy8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S74Jvy8zgqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIoTYZ1uhgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EaPMlwVyaE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7yRwftwMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5sdufQ2Fy0&feature=related

[The Worker]

Still remember where I was when I heard the news that John Lennon had been killed. True hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVp7lkH10Gc

[Nally Stand]

Still remember where I was when I heard the news that John Lennon had been killed. True hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVp7lkH10Gc

Myles, you mention you always remember where you were when John Lennon was killed. Fair enough. You forgot the date though. It was 1980, not 1981 (oops!). Though as the proud Unionist you are, I'm surprised, but nevertheless happy, to hear you regard John Lennon as a true hero.
Here's another of his songs (with a few lyrics added below):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NvWFQt2fD8
You anglo pigs and scotties
Sent to colonize the north
You wave your bloody Union Jacks
And you know what it's worth!
How dare you hold on to ransom
A people proud and free
Keep ireland for the irish
Put the english back to sea!

Sunday bloody sunday
Bloody sunday's the day!

Yes it's always bloody sunday
In the concentration camps
Keep Falls and roads free forever
From the bloody english hands
Repatriate to britain
All of you who call it home
Leave ireland to the irish
Not for London or for Rome!

Here's a photo you could print and frame of your "true hero" too:

[4father]

Myles, you mention you always remember where you were when John Lennon was killed....

TKO - Well done Nally ye boy ye!

[Applesisapples]

Still remember where I was when I heard the news that John Lennon had been killed. True hero.

Yes he was and anti the British presense and activities in the North... Check out Luck of the Irish and Sunday Bloody Sunday.

[Capt Pat]

The National Hunger Strike commemoration should be free of party politics.  It and the hunger strikers memory has been hijacked by SF.  Often people are put off going because it is seen as a SF rally.

Should it  be a fine gael event so more people will go?