Tyrone - Is this the end?

Started by Orangemac, August 07, 2011, 10:55:21 PM

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ONeill

pre·cep·tive  (pr-sptv)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or expressing a rule or principle that prescribes a particular course of action or conduct.
2. Instructive; didactic.
pre·ceptive·ly adv.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

EC Unique

I see Sean Cavanagh got a serious shoulder while bench pressing last week. (no jokes). He needs to go under the knife and will struggle to make the start of the league 2011.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

omagh_gael

Quote from: Rossfan on August 25, 2011, 10:16:30 AM
http://irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/battered-tyrone-need-to-be-rebuilt-declares-mcguigan-165311.html

You can always rely on our Frank for a sensible, balanced and objective assessment!

He won't be too popular down round Rossie land though ;)

Rossfan

No one under 40 in Ros will know who he is ... other than maybe as Brian and Tommy's oul lad.
A bit of a shoot from the hip man it appears. :)
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
pre·cep·tive  (pr-sptv)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or expressing a rule or principle that prescribes a particular course of action or conduct.
2. Instructive; didactic.
pre·ceptive·ly adv.

I've never heard him barking orders, though he is percipient!  ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...


AZOffaly

No harm, he was a great player, but some of the stuff below is out of order, and practically all of it makes him sound bitter. (My bold)

Battered Tyrone need to be rebuilt, declares McGuigan

by Paul Keane

Thursday, August 25, 2011

FORMER All Star Frank McGuigan claims he foresaw Tyrone's hammering by Dublin, insisting the once mighty Red Hands need a major overhaul.

The Tyrone great typically pulled no punches in his assessment of the current team's fortunes, saying "Mother Nature has crept up" on them.

What's most worrying is McGuigan's admission that his two sons, Tyrone forwards Brian and Tommy, may retire with a host of other veterans over the winter.

He said Brian, 32 in January, is the more likely to leave and hit out at boss Mickey Harte for substituting him against Dublin.

Even if Brian had stayed on the field, however, it is likely he would have been powerless to prevent Dublin steamrolling the 2003, 05 and 08 All-Ireland champions.

"I knew that Tyrone were coming to the end of their tether," claimed McGuigan. "You can't go on forever and that Tyrone team have been together for a long time. I noticed that the defence was slowing up a lot and I dreaded the day that they would get a hammering. It came against Dublin. It made Dublin look a lot better than they are.

"You're always hoping against hope that the opposition won't be good enough and maybe they'd get away with it. But the defence is a bit slow and we lost the midfield battle too."

Tyrone did run up a big score on Roscommon to set up the clash with Dublin, though McGuigan was dismissive of this.

"Roscommon — what have they done?" he asked.


"It's just one of those things. Mother Nature has crept up on Tyrone. It's time for a rebuilding process."

But McGuigan doesn't see much talent coming through.

"The way I look at it, we need a lot of young players and I don't know where they are," he continued.

"I don't see them in Tyrone to be honest with you."

McGuigan fancies Donegal to beat an over-hyped Dublin team this weekend but argues the Ulster champions shouldn't be in the semi-final at all. "Donegal shouldn't be there," he maintained, referencing Tomás Connor's quarter-final goal for Kildare which was ruled out for a heavily debated square ball infringement.

"Kildare beat them in my eyes. How these umpires and referees — I have been preaching it for years — how do they get it wrong on a day like that? These Kildare players put in a massive effort. They got a perfectly good goal and it's disallowed — that's not on the cards at all."

Asked if it ever happened to McGuigan as a player, he replied: "No, it didn't. And if it did the referee or the umpire wouldn't have been going home!"

Read more: http://irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/battered-tyrone-need-to-be-rebuilt-declares-mcguigan-165311.html#ixzz1W2yfT996



sheamy

achh lads, calm down. It's just Frank being Frank. There should be more of this kinda thing. Way too much sanitised nonsense doing the rounds these days.

Club Rossa

The King always says what he thinks,not everyone's cup of tea but as Sheamy points out it makes a change from all the usual nonsense spouted from pundits.

AZOffaly

Except that were Spillane to say any of that in relation to Derry or Tyrone, ye'd be jumping on him like a rat up a drainpipe.

Club Rossa


AZOffaly

Sorry, the collective 'ye'. But no matter who he is, comments like that make him look very bitter in my view.

sheamy

This is the way people talk...in Derry, Kerry, Tyrone and everywhere else. I really don't see the problem. People in Tyrone love Spillane. They just call him a bollox but he'd pull 1000 people at a chat night all the same.

The only difference is Frank says it in the papers and fair play to him. As John Brennan said recently if they are silly enough to publish everything I say, then I can be even more silly.

He's not wrong about much either. If a good goal had been given Donegal were 6 down v Kildare and game over. Roscommon haven't won much and that would be most people's view. Pub talk if you like. It's lazy analysis though as they have an AI minor, provincial title etc but in the main they're not in the top 4-5 teams yet. So be it.

Those in the know however, know that Roscommon are an excellent up and coming county with excellent youth structures and physical development plans. I really don't think that's gonna bother too many Rossies.

As for killing or making sure the ref/umpire didn't get home....christ lad, give me a break...

It doesn't sound bitter to me, just a bit o'craic. Bitter maybe towards Mickey Harte for taking Brian off! but that's about it.

EC Unique

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 25, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
Sorry, the collective 'ye'. But no matter who he is, comments like that make him look very bitter in my view.

Nobody that I know in Tyrone take him seriously so would not get too hung up on what he says.