News of the World Hacking Scandal

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Bigfella

I love you too.

There's a huge problem in the US with the newer Protestant sects and the whole red crowd that believe in creationism but you probably think it is all intellectual.  Fox is at the heart of the interaction between this deluded religion and politics.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2006/feb/09/jimmy-carter-the-culture-of-death/?page=1

In his new book, Carter addresses religion and politics together in a way that he has not done before, because he thinks that some Americans, and especially his fellow Baptists, have equated the two in a way that contradicts traditional Baptist beliefs in the autonomy of local churches, in the opposition to domination by religious leaders, and in the fellowship of love without reliance on compulsion, political or otherwise. In 2000, these tenets were expressly renounced by the largest Baptist body, the Southern Baptist Convention, which removed a former commitment to belief that "the sole authority for faith and practice among Baptists is Jesus Christ, whose will is revealed in the Holy Scriptures." What was being substituted, Carter writes, was "domination by all-male pastors." As a leading spokesman, W.A. Criswell, put it: "Lay leadership of the church is unbiblical when it weakens the pastor's authority as ruler of the church." The Southern Baptists, Carter laments, have become as authoritarian as their former antitype, the Roman Catholic hierarchy. The Southern Baptist Convention has severed its ancient ties with the Baptist World Alliance.

The marks of this new fundamentalism, according to Carter, are rigidity, self-righteousness, and an eagerness to use compulsion (including political compulsion). Its spokesmen are contemptuous of all who do not agree with them one hundred percent. Pat Robertson, on his 700 Club, typified the new "popes" when he proclaimed: "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist." Carter got a firsthand taste of such intolerance when the president of the Southern Baptist Convention visited him in the White House to tell him, "We are praying, Mr. President, that you will abandon secular humanism as your religion."

Such attitudes are far from the ones recommended by Jesus in the gospels as Carter has studied and taught them through the decades, and their proponents have brought similar attitudes into the political world, where a matching political fundamentalism has taken over much of the electoral process. 

[Declan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1P6KUyOhBc

Billy Bragg's take on it

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http://blogs.channel4.com/gary-gibbon-on-politics/the-death-knell-for-murdochs-bskyb-bid/15846

Only yesterday, the Prime Minister tried to avoid expressing a government view by saying that IF he was running News Corp he'd withdraw the bid. His advice then was that he couldn't go so far as to express an opinion. Under, no doubt, great pressure, that advice seems to have changed.
This must surely be the death-knell for the BSkyB bid? Murdoch doesn't like being thwarted. If he is frustrated, some will wonder, how will he visit punishment on his tormentors? Close papers? Axe jobs? 

[Denn Forever]

I think Billy said it best in 1983/4.  Some of the lyrics are scarily prescient.

It say Here - Billy Bragg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvi9DjmINpA

[Declan]

I think Billy said it best in 1983/4.  Some of the lyrics are scarily prescient.

It say Here - Billy Bragg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvi9DjmINpA

Can you even imagine that being played on Breakfast TV today?

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Nick Davies on the "plice" 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/12/phone-hacking-nick-davies-select-committee

[ziggysego]

The Sun's coming out fighting

[deiseach]

News Corp have withdrawn their bid for BSkyB

[seafoid]

News Corp have withdrawn their bid for BSkyB

And it all started with an article in the Grauniad.

[deiseach]

News Corp have withdrawn their bid for BSkyB

And it all started with an article in the Grauniad.

An article that involved years worth of digging by Nick Davies that was seemingly beneath the attention of Andy Hayman, Peter Clarke and John 'I'm an assistant commissioner in the Met you know' Yates. A hero for our times

[Minder]

Brooks has resigned.

[Bensars]

Brooks has resigned.

In the interview last night on News Night, shiek ? ? ? ( the rich one) who owns 7% of News Corp was'nt giving her much backing. There seems to be lot of the brown stuff to hit the fan in the coming weeks also.

[Capt Pat]

Brooks has resigned.

A bit late isn't it.

[deiseach]

Brooks has resigned.

A bit late isn't it.

Considering all the effort the Murdochs went to keep her in the job, I'd say it was a bit early.

[seafoid]

Very early. Things are falling apart.
The BSkyB bid withdrawal was massive. And now this.