It Must be Marching Season

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tiempo

Quote from: Nanderson on July 18, 2025, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 18, 2025, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:10:51 AMUnionism can't afford to promote integration, when people meet each other and collaborate the bogey-man element disappears, the Union is in its own self imposed death grip

Yes they should definitely retain their Britishness in a United Ireland if thats what they want, I'm sure they'll enjoy the minority-immigrant moniker

This will be reflected on the ballot as Unionism will congregate under a big tent again to cut their losses for as long as possible, but its a losing battle as we know, re-unification could take another 30 years but it is inevitable
I noticed for the second year, the message on the twelfth  is for a more united unionism. Circle the wagons.  They're getting  desperate.
That's the thing with unionism. They can't unite. The whole reason they are in this mess is because every unionist party has to be different. TUV is experiencing a good polling period atm but their young voter base is paltry. Similar with DUP, a lot of their voters are over 50+. I seen a picture on twitter the other day and it showed that 3 unionist dominant constituencies had 25%+ 65 years or over voting demograph, with North Down at nearly 33%. Maybe in order to get a united Ireland, we don't have to breed like rabbits anymore. We just have to be patient and wait for the unionist voting power to die off

Get what you're saying

Breeding like rabbits had limited impact as our greatest export has been our people

Clearly there is a cliff edge with the Unionist vote based on simple demographics, that ageing population will take most of the votes with it when they die off

I'd say a lot of that cohort would be satisfied with a UI after their lifetime if you could guaranteed that a UI isn't achieved in Gerry Adams' lifetime

The birth rate in the north and assimilation of immigrant ethnic minorities into a more respectable European mindset will all add nails to the coffin

Still up to 30 years away unfortunately but inevitable

AustinPowers

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QuoteUnionism can't afford to promote integration, when people meet each other and collaborate the bogey-man element disappears, the Union is in its own self imposed death grip

Yes they should definitely retain their Britishness in a United Ireland if thats what they want, I'm sure they'll enjoy the minority-immigrant moniker

This will be reflected on the ballot as Unionism will congregate under a big tent again to cut their losses for as long as possible, but its a losing battle as we know, re-unification could take another 30 years but it is inevitable
I noticed for the second year, the message on the twelfth  is for a more united unionism. Circle the wagons.  They're getting  desperate.
That's the thing with unionism. They can't unite. The whole reason they are in this mess is because every unionist party has to be different. TUV is experiencing a good polling period atm but their young voter base is paltry. Similar with DUP, a lot of their voters are over 50+. I seen a picture on twitter the other day and it showed that 3 unionist dominant constituencies had 25%+ 65 years or over voting demograph, with North Down at nearly 33%. Maybe in order to get a united Ireland, we don't have to breed like rabbits anymore. We just have to be patient and wait for the unionist voting power to die off
Do you not think all this  extreme views on  Irish language, the GAA , marches, bonfires etc are all  part of the "plan". Trying to rise up  the  next generation to maintain the  union.

i mean, if youngsters grow up now in  relative peace , and mix , go to school/uni, inter marriage, then they're probably more likely to  be non-plussed  when it comes to a border poll. But, when you work on promoting division, supposed "inequality ", our kulture is being eroded etc,  keep the upcoming generation in  perpetual fear of all things Irish, then you have a guaranteed vote for unionist parties, and for  maintaining the union in a border poll.

I suppose it's  all about unionist parties keeping themselves relevant, even if that means  society is in absolute turmoil.

tiempo

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Quote from: AustinPowers on July 18, 2025, 12:16:08 PM
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QuoteUnionism can't afford to promote integration, when people meet each other and collaborate the bogey-man element disappears, the Union is in its own self imposed death grip

Yes they should definitely retain their Britishness in a United Ireland if thats what they want, I'm sure they'll enjoy the minority-immigrant moniker

This will be reflected on the ballot as Unionism will congregate under a big tent again to cut their losses for as long as possible, but its a losing battle as we know, re-unification could take another 30 years but it is inevitable
I noticed for the second year, the message on the twelfth  is for a more united unionism. Circle the wagons.  They're getting  desperate.
That's the thing with unionism. They can't unite. The whole reason they are in this mess is because every unionist party has to be different. TUV is experiencing a good polling period atm but their young voter base is paltry. Similar with DUP, a lot of their voters are over 50+. I seen a picture on twitter the other day and it showed that 3 unionist dominant constituencies had 25%+ 65 years or over voting demograph, with North Down at nearly 33%. Maybe in order to get a united Ireland, we don't have to breed like rabbits anymore. We just have to be patient and wait for the unionist voting power to die off
Do you not think all this  extreme views on  Irish language, the GAA , marches, bonfires etc are all  part of the "plan". Trying to rise up  the  next generation to maintain the  union.

i mean, if youngsters grow up now in  relative peace , and mix , go to school/uni, inter marriage, then they're probably more likely to  be non-plussed  when it comes to a border poll. But, when you work on promoting division, supposed "inequality ", our kulture is being eroded etc,  keep the upcoming generation in  perpetual fear of all things Irish, then you have a guaranteed vote for unionist parties, and for  maintaining the union in a border poll.

I suppose it's  all about unionist parties keeping themselves relevant, even if that means  society is in absolute turmoil.

Nail on the head, however its a self defeating shit for brains mentality that will fall short and result in worse outcomes for their constituents now and in the future - naturally the Unionist political class don't give a shite, as Arlene so eloquently put she'd leave the country, absolutely zero fvcks given towards grassroots everyday issues - cushy jobs, expenses, garden parties and peerage - thats the only show in town for Unionist political 'leaders'

Armagh18

Quote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on July 18, 2025, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 18, 2025, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:10:51 AMUnionism can't afford to promote integration, when people meet each other and collaborate the bogey-man element disappears, the Union is in its own self imposed death grip

Yes they should definitely retain their Britishness in a United Ireland if thats what they want, I'm sure they'll enjoy the minority-immigrant moniker

This will be reflected on the ballot as Unionism will congregate under a big tent again to cut their losses for as long as possible, but its a losing battle as we know, re-unification could take another 30 years but it is inevitable
I noticed for the second year, the message on the twelfth  is for a more united unionism. Circle the wagons.  They're getting  desperate.
That's the thing with unionism. They can't unite. The whole reason they are in this mess is because every unionist party has to be different. TUV is experiencing a good polling period atm but their young voter base is paltry. Similar with DUP, a lot of their voters are over 50+. I seen a picture on twitter the other day and it showed that 3 unionist dominant constituencies had 25%+ 65 years or over voting demograph, with North Down at nearly 33%. Maybe in order to get a united Ireland, we don't have to breed like rabbits anymore. We just have to be patient and wait for the unionist voting power to die off

Imagine if Reform stands in the north.

A rival to the TUV.

Would shred the vote a bit more.

I wonder would they many members in the north?
Fair bit of support round Moygashel I'd say..

red hander

Quote from: Armagh18 on July 18, 2025, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 18, 2025, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on July 18, 2025, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:46:30 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 18, 2025, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: tiempo on July 18, 2025, 11:10:51 AMUnionism can't afford to promote integration, when people meet each other and collaborate the bogey-man element disappears, the Union is in its own self imposed death grip

Yes they should definitely retain their Britishness in a United Ireland if thats what they want, I'm sure they'll enjoy the minority-immigrant moniker

This will be reflected on the ballot as Unionism will congregate under a big tent again to cut their losses for as long as possible, but its a losing battle as we know, re-unification could take another 30 years but it is inevitable
I noticed for the second year, the message on the twelfth  is for a more united unionism. Circle the wagons.  They're getting  desperate.
That's the thing with unionism. They can't unite. The whole reason they are in this mess is because every unionist party has to be different. TUV is experiencing a good polling period atm but their young voter base is paltry. Similar with DUP, a lot of their voters are over 50+. I seen a picture on twitter the other day and it showed that 3 unionist dominant constituencies had 25%+ 65 years or over voting demograph, with North Down at nearly 33%. Maybe in order to get a united Ireland, we don't have to breed like rabbits anymore. We just have to be patient and wait for the unionist voting power to die off

Imagine if Reform stands in the north.

A rival to the TUV.

Would shred the vote a bit more.

I wonder would they many members in the north?
Fair bit of support round Moygashel I'd say..

Those thick loyalist cnuts would have trouble writing an 'X' into the wee box.

93-DY-SAM

Laughable all the usual loyalist suspects fawning and falling over themselves about the massive crowds in Portrush at the parade yesterday evening. And all the tourists loving it. Take about thou does protest to much. They seem to have the bit between their teeth at the minute going after the GAA and of all things the Belfast Telegraph. All out protesting they are cancelling their Belfast Telegraph online subscription posting screen shots. Think they are all sharing the same screenshot. Doubt too many of them are paying an online subscription.

Must be fecking exhausting to constantly be performing serious mental gymnastics.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 20, 2025, 11:08:20 PMLaughable all the usual loyalist suspects fawning and falling over themselves about the massive crowds in Portrush at the parade yesterday evening. And all the tourists loving it. Take about thou does protest to much. They seem to have the bit between their teeth at the minute going after the GAA and of all things the Belfast Telegraph. All out protesting they are cancelling their Belfast Telegraph online subscription posting screen shots. Think they are all sharing the same screenshot. Doubt too many of them are paying an online subscription.

Must be fecking exhausting to constantly be performing serious mental gymnastics.

They were not marching up a catholic street so never going to be any hassle

Ignoring them is best
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

SouthOfThe Bann

Just seen Kildare guy at the open in portrush posted on tiktok about the pubs in portrush not showing the hurling today stating it's a very anti GAA place.

Does the Eoghan Rua club in Derry cover portrush?

States it on their website but I thought portrush was in Antrim?

gallsman

Eoghan Rua would be the closest club by a considerable distance to Portrush. It's 10 mins away. You'd be talking half an hour to Ballycastle.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: gallsman on July 20, 2025, 11:32:14 PMEoghan Rua would be the closest club by a considerable distance to Portrush. It's 10 mins away. You'd be talking half an hour to Ballycastle.

Must be a GAA wasteland up there so is it?

Coleraine and Portstewart hardly strongholds either?

Despite winning 2 Derry seniors in recent years but I presume that was down to sheer population in the area.

gallsman

Well yes, the whole area is a black hole. There's a not insignificant Catholic population in Coleraine. ER have won Derry SFCs twice in the last 15 years or so.

AustinPowers

I thought Eoghan  Rua  was a Portstewart club?

gallsman

The grounds are between Coleraine and Portstewart.

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on July 20, 2025, 11:23:49 PMJust seen Kildare guy at the open in portrush posted on tiktok about the pubs in portrush not showing the hurling today stating it's a very anti GAA place.

Does the Eoghan Rua club in Derry cover portrush?

States it on their website but I thought portrush was in Antrim?

He obviously not a poster in here 😜 or he would've known to try Portstewart 🤝

Wildweasel74

Pitch out nearer Portstewart, they better sense than been in round Coleraine or Portrush.