IRA Blamed for Sectarian Slaughter at Kingsmill

Started by Myles Na G., June 19, 2011, 08:29:11 AM

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Gaffer

Quote from: glens abu on August 09, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 08:56:54 PM
I would love to see everyone associated with the murder to be locked up for a long time . Don't care how it happens or who gives the information over.

Live in the real world? Do you apply this logic when Sinn Fein demand answers from the Brits regarding collusion?
Well it's not going to happen,and yes I expect the British government to admit they were involved in collusion the same as I expected and happy that the Provos have admitted the killing of Mr.Stack.

Wise  up !

Live in the real world !
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

glens abu

Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: glens abu on August 09, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 08:56:54 PM
I would love to see everyone associated with the murder to be locked up for a long time . Don't care how it happens or who gives the information over.

Live in the real world? Do you apply this logic when Sinn Fein demand answers from the Brits regarding collusion?
Well it's not going to happen,and yes I expect the British government to admit they were involved in collusion the same as I expected and happy that the Provos have admitted the killing of Mr.Stack.

Wise  up !

Live in the real world !

It's all about pressure,nobody ever believed that the truth would come out about Bloody Sunday and the pressure will make sure the truth comes out about Ballymurphy,Loughinisland,Finucane etc.that is the real world but you will be waiting a long time to see all these Provos locked up,the GFA made sure of that. ;)

Gaffer

You appear to be quite happy that the murderers of Mr Stack may never see prison.

If any of my relations were murdered by republicans or British/loyalists I would not be happy until those who did tit were behind bars. I can t imagine that the Stack family are much further on with the confession. Sure they knew it was them anyway.
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

glens abu

Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
You appear to be quite happy that the murderers of Mr Stack may never see prison.

If any of my relations were murdered by republicans or British/loyalists I would not be happy until those who did tit were behind bars. I can t imagine that the Stack family are much further on with the confession. Sure they knew it was them anyway.

Well why did they go with Adams to meet an IRA leader if they knew it already and yes I supported the GFA and therefore was very happy with prisoner release and don't want anyone else to spend another night in prison.Thats why I support the peace process.I have lost family and friends during the troubles but will not be losing sleep waiting on those who killed them serving time.

Gaffer

They went to see what the man had to say for himself.

And as regards you not wanting to see British soldiers or RUC men serving a night in prison for  any crimes they committed during the troubles......do me a favour!!!!
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

glens abu

Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 10:11:29 PM
They went to see what the man had to say for himself.

And as regards you not wanting to see British soldiers or RUC men serving a night in prison for  any crimes they committed during the troubles......do me a favour!!!!

OK you know me better than I know myself.See ya ::)

Gaffer

Oh I know through  years of experience how IRA worshippers really think !!!
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

glens abu

Quote from: Gaffer on August 09, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
Oh I know through  years of experience how IRA worshippers really think !!!

You should join MI5 :D :D

Gaffer

Thought you were away!!

Wouldn't t need me. They re coming down with RA men.
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

Main Street

Who knows why Stack was killed, a prison guard, a part of a particularly brutal prison regime in a time of armed struggle, but the buck stops with the governor. That casualty doesn't really have any place in a thread to do with the Kingsmill slaughter.



omaghjoe

Police reopening this case, dont know if this will affect the inquiry.

Alan Blacks testimony was brutal reading, reminds me of Srebrenica survivors stories, really harrowing stuff.

God help him and the families going through it all again and it will no doubt linger even longer with the criminal case being reinvestigated

Orior

All enquiries should be scrapped. Forget about the past and move on!
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Jim_Murphy_74

Quote from: Orior on June 01, 2016, 09:02:39 AM
All enquiries should be scrapped. Forget about the past and move on!

This isn't an enquiry per se, it's the legacy crime squad.  They review unsolved cases and see if anything was missed.  In this case new technology allowed then re-analyze a hand print.   

Obviously we have the inquest running too.  I don't think anyone who loses a loved one unexpectedly should be denied an inquest. 



/Jim.

screenexile

Don't get me wrong it was a horrible crime but what is the point in an inquest into a paramilitary murder?

I can see why Bloody Sunday had an inquest because it was the army and they are supposed to have certain protocols etc. But this was a paramilitary killing where I presume the perpetrators have immunity through the GFA so what exactly is to be achieved, I doubt there are documents or tape recordings that cold be used to get to the truth?

Is it to highlight the fact the IRA did it to give the relatives a bit of peace rather than the other nonsense spouted about a Republicaan Action Force?

I think there has to come a time when this is all put in the past but I reckon it's another generation away yet. It's still too raw for a lot of people but we will get there as I think young people of today have much less baggage than they did in the late 60s/early 70s.

omaghjoe

The families have a right to an inquiry same as anyone else who was killed by accident or otherwise.

What happened should be officially heard and recorded if for no other reason as a reminder of the brutality of the troubles.

Trying to move on is fine and well but not at the expense of the past, brushing the past under the carpet will only allow it to fester.