Ulster Senior Football Club Championship 2011

[John Martin]

Is there any limit to the number of teams who can regrade.
For instance, could 4 or 5 teams who are not at the level of cross just drop down to intermediate.
Does the number of teams in the Armagh SFC change from year to year.

[sheamy]

Is there any limit to the number of teams who can regrade.
For instance, could 4 or 5 teams who are not at the level of cross just drop down to intermediate.
Does the number of teams in the Armagh SFC change from year to year.

That begs the question: should they all be intermediate except cross?

[screenexile]

Is there any limit to the number of teams who can regrade.
For instance, could 4 or 5 teams who are not at the level of cross just drop down to intermediate.
Does the number of teams in the Armagh SFC change from year to year.

That begs the question: should they all be intermediate except cross?

Maybe every other club in Ireland should contest the Intermediate and Junior and just give Cross the AI every year!

[eddie d]

Is there any limit to the number of teams who can regrade.
For instance, could 4 or 5 teams who are not at the level of cross just drop down to intermediate.
Does the number of teams in the Armagh SFC change from year to year.

That begs the question: should they all be intermediate except cross?

wel that would mean just handing the armagh championship 2 cross...oh wait they do that anyway..

[fitzroyalty]

I don't agree with that system. If you are having an Ulster Intermediate Championship then it should be a level playing field for everyone. Culloville have been plying their trade all year against the likes of Cross, Pearse Og, Dromintee while Craigbane have been playing at a level below.

I think their should be a uniform way of grading Clubs across all counties.

I agree with this and there was a discussion on the board a few months ago also on the same topic. I think it's only fair that teams in each county are equally divided into the 3 grades, rather than the case in Armagh where teams can decide to drop down a level and the numbers aren't equal.

You then get the scenario of too many clubs in the JFC cos they don't want to go for the IFC, and too many teams in the IFC cos they don't want to go for the SFC.

Armagh and Culloville aren't alone though, I think it is the same case in Antrim, I know Aghagallon played Division 1 this year but were still in the Antrim IFC, also that O'Donnell's side who didn't go up to IFC despite winning the JFC the year before.

[Orchardman]

Don't think it has been mentioned but pretty sure you need to wait 5 years before regarding back down to intermediate again. Like ballymacnad won it in 06, and their were cries from some that their not fit for the senior after hardly winning a game since til this year, but then they got to the final this year ( handy enuf draw though, but still). Themselves and granemore only played their first ever div 1 campaign this year.

Culloville won the intermed in 98 i think so would have been in senior for many year until they went down around 06 or so. They probably though it was time to get a championship run again, and they did indeed lose 3 of the last 4 finals. Newtown won it in 99, but never had any luck in senior despite being a good div 1 team for a while. They only regarded themselves 2 years and won it first time of asking, yet they would be poor enuf outfit!

[David McKeown]

I thought you could only regrade in Armagh if you had gone winless in the championship for a number of years?  I know we had this problem a few years back where we wanted to drop back to junior but had to wait another year.  I also remember hearing that Ballyhegan wanted to drop from Senior to Junior (skipping intermediate) a few years ago but Im not sure if there was any truth in that.

[Captain Obvious]

What more can be said about Crossmaglen? the pride of Armagh & Ulster, both titles won comfortably & looking at what's left in the All Ireland series a 6th title will be won on the 17th of March.

[pearseog]

If your a senior dropping to intermediate, you have to be accepted by a majority of the intermediate clubs i believe. same from intermediate to junior.

league tables in armagh dont tell the true story. most of the year when the league is played, the teams are without their best players.
when championship comes around they are a different side. look at armagh harps. they have had 3 seasons in division 2 now but its only 2 years since they were in the senior final and haven't been beat by anyone but the eventual winners of the championship (cross and pearse og) in 6 or 7 years.

and of course we are the second best side in ulster...sure we're the only team in ulster to beat cross in 6 years!!! 

[Milltown Row2]

If your a senior dropping to intermediate, you have to be accepted by a majority of the intermediate clubs i believe. same from intermediate to junior.

league tables in armagh dont tell the true story. most of the year when the league is played, the teams are without their best players.
when championship comes around they are a different side. look at armagh harps. they have had 3 seasons in division 2 now but its only 2 years since they were in the senior final and haven't been beat by anyone but the eventual winners of the championship (cross and pearse og) in 6 or 7 years.

and of course we are the second best side in ulster...sure we're the only team in ulster to beat cross in 6 years!!! 

And when ya had a chance to prove it, your balls dropped

[NP 76]

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[el_cuervo_fc]

Culloville beat Cross this year in the league.

Edit: This argument about who is second best to Cross went on for years in Armagh. It's now moved on to Ulster. Pointless argument. The Cross ones can just sit back and laugh.

[brokencrossbar1]

We all know who the second best team in Ulster is, Cross Rangers nos 16-30

[HiMucker]

If your a senior dropping to intermediate, you have to be accepted by a majority of the intermediate clubs i believe. same from intermediate to junior.

league tables in armagh dont tell the true story. most of the year when the league is played, the teams are without their best players.when championship comes around they are a different side. look at armagh harps. they have had 3 seasons in division 2 now but its only 2 years since they were in the senior final and haven't been beat by anyone but the eventual winners of the championship (cross and pearse og) in 6 or 7 years.

and of course we are the second best side in ulster...sure we're the only team in ulster to beat cross in 6 years!!! 

Sure you could say that about every county

[crossfire]

Culloville beat Cross this year in the league.

Edit: This argument about who is second best to Cross went on for years in Armagh. It's now moved on to Ulster. Pointless argument. The Cross ones can just sit back and laugh.

Incorrect.

However they were the only team to beat us in league or championship in 2010.