Osama Dead

[Tyrones own]

Right. Let's just nip this in the bud.

Myles, that response will not be tolerated on here, not matter what the provocation. Threatening that someone will 'get what's coming to the them' is a serious thing, and not taken lightly. On the basis that you were extremely provoked, I'll give you a pass, but this is the last I want to see of that sort of post.


Mike, to be honest your initial post was outrageous. To claim that anyone would be happy about 9/11 is pretty disgusting. I realise you like being a clever wind up merchant, but to be honest you are becoming more trouble than your contributions are worth at this stage. You've gone completely OTT in your dealings with certain posters, and you are on thin ice at this stage.

Now, calm down everyone.

these are serious issues that should not be censored. I think that most people on here would want an honest discussion about this.

In the extreme remote chance that all 10 or 12 of the school ground bullies here would ever be able to best you with their unsubstantiated vitriol Mike, we'd quickly find that there'd be no reason for censorship or being ignored
for that matter  (right myles )
...you do realize myles that just because you've gotten your trousers pulled down around your ankles soo many times here in debates that to run away and hide or as you put It "ignore"  shows you up for the complete and utter empty vessel that some of us here know you to be 

[seafoid]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Epstein

Another supporter of Islamic terrorism. This one even went under cover into a a Nazi concentration camp.

Norman finkelstein's entire family other than his parents were murdered because they wanted to die as martyrs for Islamofascism.

By the way, where was the US when the Nazis were gassing Hungary's Jews? Where were the Zionists when the Warsaw Ghetto rose up? 

[seafoid]

The misuse of holocaust funds by the Israelis is a very sad story about the abuse of power and the shafting of the weak.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?ar=14&pg=4

The sums paid out by the postwar German government significantly affected Jewish life. During the first ten years of the agreement (1953-63), the Israeli historian Tom Segev reports:
the reparations money funded about a third of the total investment in Israel's electrical system, which tripled in capacity, and nearly half the total investment in the railways, buying German diesel engines, cars, tracks, and signaling equipment. Equipment for developing the water supply, for oil drilling, and for operating the copper mines ... was bought in Germany, as well as heavy equipment for agriculture and construction - tractors, combines, and trucks.[2] Germany earmarked the Claims Conference monies (approximately one $1 billion in current values) for victims of Nazi persecution who were not adequately compensated by the German courts. As it happened, the Claims Conference used the monies mostly for other purposes, for example, subsidizing Jewish communities in the Arab world and Jewish cultural institutions such as the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Israel.




http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3387047,00.html


A third of Holocaust survivors living in Israel are poor, the Holocaust Survivors' Welfare Fund reported this week. According to the fund, some 80,000 of the 260,000 survivors in the country live under the poverty line. 
In addition to their grim financial situation, the survivors are also more prone to suffer from unique physical and medical problems related   

to the malnutrition and severe hardships they had experienced during the war years. Dental, hearing and eyesight problems are more common among survivors as well. 

Many of the survivors suffer from mental distress and loneliness, and lack proper social and family support networks. Some 50,000 to 60,000 survivors are in need of some level of nursing, as 73 percent of this population is over the age of 76, and about a fifth is over 86.


http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/ten-years-ago-this-past-month-my-book-the-holocaust-industry-was-published-it-evoked-outrage-from-the-jewish-holocaust-israel-establishment-and-marked-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-my-academic-career/

Ten years ago this past month my book The Holocaust Industry was published. It evoked outrage from the Jewish-Holocaust-Israel establishment and marked the beginning of the end of my academic career. I lost my job at Hunter College right after its publication and Depaul University cited it as grounds for denying me tenure in 2007. Much of the outrage was directed at the chapter entitled The Double Shakedown, in which I documented the Holocaust industry's blackmail of European governments in the name of "needy Holocaust victims" and then the shakedown of Holocaust victims by the Jewish organizations that pocketed the "Holocaust compensation" monies. Although controversial then, it has now become a commonplace how corrupt this racket was. Nearly all the principals in the Holocaust shakedown racket — Rabbi Israel Singer, Alan Hevesi, Burt Neuborne, Neal Sher, Melyvn Weiss, Edward Fagan, Avraham Herschson — have been exposed as crooks. A central role in this racket has been played by the Claims' Conference.

[muppet]

Howth Church paying for the following deceased next week:

[Denn Forever]

This one version of what happened make of it what you will.

The Death of Bin Laden - Panorama.
8.30pm. BBC1. 09/05/11

According to Panoram a, this is the full story of how America tracked down and killed the world's most wanted man - Osama Bin Laden. From the small Pakistani town of Abbottabad to the streets of New York, the programme speaks to eyewitnesses, victims of Al Qaeda's terror and military and intelligence insiders. There is also a look at why so many people were kept in the dark about the operation and whether the Pakistanis were really unaware of Bin Laden's whereabouts. As soldiers take on the Taliban in Afghanistan and certain countries remain alert to potential terrorist attacks, Panorama asks whether Britain can trust Pakistan to be an ally in the battle against terrorism.

..

[Puckoon]

Chomsky said about the use of the name Geronimo , from the link above

The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It's like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk... It's as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes "Jew" and "Gypsy."

Nothing like it.

Traditionally, Armed Forces choose a subject to give name to its ships, airplanes or vehicles.

The U.S. Army aviation began in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma prior to moving to FT. Rucker, Alabama. Ft. Sill is located in the heart of many native american reservations and in honor of the location they decided to name helicopters after the various indian tribes. The one exception is the Bell AH-1 Cobra which was named such because the army did not want to offend the native americans by naming a gunship after an indian tribe and have the be percieved as an insult. Shortly thereafter many tribal leaders inquired as to why the Army stopped naming helicopters after indians. When the reason was explained the leaders stated that there are many aggressive indian tribes that are fit to name a gunship after which was where the Apache, Kiowa warrior, and formerly the Commanche all got thier names from.

http://www.helis.com/faq/

[deiseach]

Chomsky said about the use of the name Geronimo , from the link above

The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It's like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk... It's as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes "Jew" and "Gypsy."

Nothing like it.

Traditionally, Armed Forces choose a subject to give name to its ships, airplanes or vehicles.

The U.S. Army aviation began in Ft. Sill, Oklahoma prior to moving to FT. Rucker, Alabama. Ft. Sill is located in the heart of many native american reservations and in honor of the location they decided to name helicopters after the various indian tribes. The one exception is the Bell AH-1 Cobra which was named such because the army did not want to offend the native americans by naming a gunship after an indian tribe and have the be percieved as an insult. Shortly thereafter many tribal leaders inquired as to why the Army stopped naming helicopters after indians. When the reason was explained the leaders stated that there are many aggressive indian tribes that are fit to name a gunship after which was where the Apache, Kiowa warrior, and formerly the Commanche all got thier names from.

http://www.helis.com/faq/

In what way does that invalidate what Chomsky said? Imagine the Nazis had reduced the Jews and the Gypsies to a rump, herded onto reservations. Centuries later the munificent victors, in tribute to their gallant foes, name weapons after them. Nothing like it?

Edit: I should note, before I get accused of making an exact comparision between the United States and Nazi Germany, I am not. I'm saying that the United States appropriates the myths and legends of those that it utterly brutalised with astonishing ease. The Jews have a word for it - chutzpah

[Tyrones own]

Had it been Dubya who perpetrated this latest war crime there'd be absolutely
no reason to drag this thread here, there and everywhere and ultimately to Israel and the Jews...owing to the fact it was the Nobel peace prize winner
himself, its just a case of move it along folks...nothing to see here 
Tis hardly noticeable....really! 

[AZOffaly]

Do you think this is a war crime TO?

[EC Unique]

What laws of war have been broken?

[muppet]

What laws of war have been broken?

GOP constitution rule 101: If thou wantest to smoke out thine enemy and gettest him running, thy must invade at least two unconnected countries in the first instance.

[gallsman]

The Jews have a word for it - chutzpah

Careful, things like that get you called an anti-Semite round here.

[Tyrones own]

Do you think this is a war crime TO?

Wouldn't really consider myself an expert on international law AZ but conducting a Military assassination of an unarmed man within the confines of a Sovereign nation without permission and without reading him his Miranda rights or any chance at all at a fair trial, then disposing of his body/evidence into the ocean so quickly would seem to me that yes, it could easily be viewed as a war crime.

I was simply interested in the expert views from the choir here that were soiling themselves whilst singing from the rafters about war crimes when Bush was in office...but nope, surprisingly  not a cheep!

[Groucho]

The difference being that whilst Bin Ladens death contravened international law.......most people don't give a shit....

but to invade two countries based on lies and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people......that is the greater crime.....and even someone as blinkered as you must be capable of recognising this. 

[Tyrones own]

The difference being that whilst Bin Ladens death contravened international law.......most people don't give a shit....

but to invade two countries based on lies and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people......that is the greater crime.....and even someone as blinkered as you must be capable of recognising this.

A war crime is a war crime...thought with your vast knowledge on the subject
You'd have known and been able to admit that.
But then again...apparently it just depends on who it is that's commiting them as to whether or not you boys deem it worthy