Osama Dead

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Groucho

Al Qaida confirms bin Laden's death




Supporters of religious party Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam burn representation of a US flag during a rally to condemn the killing of Osama bin Laden
Al Qaida has issued its first confirmation of Osama bin Laden's death in an internet statement posted on militant websites.

Friday's statement by the terror network says bin Laden's blood "will not be wasted" and it will continue attacking Americans and their allies.

Bin Laden was killed on Monday by US commandos during a raid on his hideout in Pakistan.

Al Qaida warned of retaliation, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness." The confirmation came in an internet statement posted on militant websites, signed by "the general leadership" of al Qaida.

The announcement opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and is a very likely contender to take his place.

The statement, dated May 3, was the first by the terror network since bin Laden was killed on Monday by US commandos in a raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

"We stress that the blood of the holy warrior sheikh, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is precious to us and to all Muslims and will no go in vain," the statement said. "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries."

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

In the statement, al Qaida also called on the people of Pakistan - "where Sheik Osama was killed" - to rise up in revolt against its leaders.

It also said that an audio message bin Laden recorded a week before his death would be issued soon.


Al CIA-da confirmation :D
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ziggysego

TO sickens me, refusing to answer questions. Come on, time to answer!!!!





















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seafoid

The US drove airport security into the ground before 9/11 because it was more efficient economically to cut costs.
If they had had proper security in place it would have been far more effective than some airy fairy torture fantasy.
OBL got what he wanted. He dragged the Us down to his level and got it bogged down in an unwinnable war in the Hindu Kush.  He knew the Yanks, paralysed by grief and rage, would lash out in the unthinking way they did. The US is far weaker now than it was in 2000. 

thebigfella

Quote from: seafoid on May 06, 2011, 03:01:20 PM
The US drove airport security into the ground before 9/11 because it was more efficient economically to cut costs.
If they had had proper security in place it would have been far more effective than some airy fairy torture fantasy.
OBL got what he wanted. He dragged the Us down to his level and got it bogged down in an unwinnable war in the Hindu Kush.  He knew the Yanks, paralysed by grief and rage, would lash out in the unthinking way they did. The US is far weaker now than it was in 2000.

You talk some sh1te  ::)

On the point of airport security, I think there were plenty of governments, airport authorities and regulator guilty of this, seems a little bit OTT to blame it on the yanks. Also great assumption on what Bin Laden was thinking, pity we'll never substantiate it as he's sleeping with the fishes ;)

Captain Scarlet

Watching question time last night and there was lots of debate on the operation and the whole torture issue came up.
The CIA guy was quoted as saying that 'enhanced interrogation techniques' used led to finding the villa. Now in all fairness I don't believe that for a second, I reckon it's a nice little story so they an continue what they're doing there.
Also the US story changed within hours as to whether or not he was armed. Ah if they got him alive and then let his own people be involved in the trial it would just add wait to the Arab Spring.
Now he is a rallying point again.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

The Iceman

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/48139-the-great-osama-bin-laden-hoax-?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dc33aab23532784%2C0

These boys reckon Al queda doesnt even exist and it was all a hoax orchestrated by the US government so they could prosecute Bin Laden as head of a organization
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

seafoid

Quote from: thebigfella on May 06, 2011, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 06, 2011, 03:01:20 PM
The US drove airport security into the ground before 9/11 because it was more efficient economically to cut costs.
If they had had proper security in place it would have been far more effective than some airy fairy torture fantasy.
OBL got what he wanted. He dragged the Us down to his level and got it bogged down in an unwinnable war in the Hindu Kush.  He knew the Yanks, paralysed by grief and rage, would lash out in the unthinking way they did. The US is far weaker now than it was in 2000.

You talk some sh1te  ::)

On the point of airport security, I think there were plenty of governments, airport authorities and regulator guilty of this, seems a little bit OTT to blame it on the yanks. Also great assumption on what Bin Laden was thinking, pity we'll never substantiate it as he's sleeping with the fishes ;)

Early on the morning of September 11, 2001, nineteen hijackers took control of four commercial airliners en route to San Francisco and Los Angeles from Boston, Newark, and Washington, D.C.[
http://dyson.cornell.edu/faculty_sites/gb78/wp/airport_security_022305.pdf


we evaluate the effects of the implementation of baggage screening and the federalization of passenger
screening
on the demand for air travel. These two congressionally mandated measures are the most visible changes in airport security following the 9/11 attacks.

Al Qa'ida knew the airport security system was lax. There was an open goal. Deregulation served the US very poorly first in airport security and secondly in subprime.-

ross4life

Quote from: The Iceman on May 06, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/48139-the-great-osama-bin-laden-hoax-?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dc33aab23532784%2C0

These boys reckon Al queda doesnt even exist and it was all a hoax orchestrated by the US government so they could prosecute Bin Laden as head of a organization
Interesting.
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muppet

Quote from: The Iceman on May 06, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/48139-the-great-osama-bin-laden-hoax-?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dc33aab23532784%2C0

These boys reckon Al queda doesnt even exist and it was all a hoax orchestrated by the US government so they could prosecute Bin Laden as head of a organization

Iceman do you believe in David Ike?
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The Iceman

just happened to be the link someone sent me on it muppet, was posted on his website but available on youtube - no connection
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

Tyrones own

Quote from: ziggysego on May 06, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
TO sickens me, refusing to answer questions. Come on, time to answer!!!!



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seafoid

911 statistics . Would torturing drivers save lives? 

Gerd Gigerenzer of Max Planck Institute for Human Development in Berlin studied the effect of the 9/11 event on the travel behaviour of Americans and by analysing data from the U.S. Department of Transportation for the 3 months following September 11. The analysis suggests that the number of Americans who lost their lives on the road by avoiding the risk of flying was higher than the total number of passengers killed on the four fatal flights. His analysis suggested that (a) Americans reduced their air travel as a consequence of September 11 and (b) a proportion of those who reduced their flying instead drove (as opposed to staying home or taking a train), then (c) an increase in traffic fatalities resulted.

http://www.mpib-berlin.mpg.de/volltexte/institut/dok/full/gg/dreadris/dreadris.pdf

PadraicHenryPearse

TO actually answer a question.....  ::)

very doubtful. There must be some scandal behind his/her secrets, otherwise why would he/she not answer? ask yourself that???? ??? ???

tyssam5

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 05, 2011, 10:37:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 07:21:14 PM
Obama is indeed being hailed as a hero here for finishing a job that dubya started...

Oh FFS!

Obama uses a surgical needle where GWB would have sent in a cruise missile
; Obama actually uses intelligence where GWB would have employed his customary brute force, and the subsequent OTT 'Mission Accomplished' triumphalist nonsense.

Yet, it's all down to dubya, this elimination of the big Bin, but the US economy (and the dire state thereof) is solely down to Obama!  :D

You said it: "pathetic... you couldn't make it up"!  ;D

Edit: and it was actually Clinton who started it (tracking Bin Laden), and if GWB had employed a brain for a second (not his own, obviously) then he might have secured the massive achievement that Obama has (having done in half a term what Bush couldn't do in two).

Fear, I think if you look at the number of drone strikes (definitely in Pakistan anyway) they will have gone up under Obama. He said pre-election that he favored extending operations into Pakistan and he did. Whatever arrangement the intelligence agencies had with ISS under Bush, it seemed like they were a lot more careful not offend Pakistan. If Bin Laden had been located in the Tribal area then maybe they would have used the missile option. As it was launching a missile within 1km of a major Pakistan army base and well away from the border might not have been a good idea. Also the place was lightly defended and they thought they could do it the way they did, while also gaining definite confirmation of Osama's death. Make no mistake if they had located him in an area where a 'surgical' operation would not have been feasible, I reckon Obama would have no qualms about launching a missile strike and unfortunately wives, kids etc, would have been killed as well.

Tyrones own

Man but you're one sick pup...you'll go to any length to justify/minimize
the effect that 9/11 had here  :o
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann