Osama Dead

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seafoid

Quote from: Banana Man on May 05, 2011, 02:54:56 PM
I see the Apache Indians have written to Obama and demanded an apology for using their former leader 'Geronimo' as the code name for the operation - good luck with that one lads

The treatment of the natives was appalling. This is how Crazy Horse was killed :

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/feb/24/magic-crazy-horse/?pagination=false&printpage=true

Crook and Clark met secretly with scouts and other Indians opposed to Crazy Horse and made plans to kill him that night. Crook then left for the railroad. News of the plan quickly got back to Crazy Horse, who gave his guns to a follower and spent the night waiting in his tipi armed only with a knife—surely one of the loneliest vigils in our history. Black Shawl Woman was still with him (the new wife had departed sometime before), and for bravery in extremis you have to hand it to Black Shawl Woman, too.

The endgame proceeded. The plan to kill Crazy Horse was countermanded, replaced by an order to arrest him at dawn. Sheridan intended to have him sent east on the railroad, to be imprisoned in Fort Marion, Florida. A small army of scouts rode to Crazy Horse's camp in the morning, but he had ridden off for the Spotted Tail Agency, about thirty miles away, with Black Shawl Woman and two followers. At Spotted Tail, the agent, Lieutenant Jesse Lee, knew of the arrest order. Lee talked to Crazy Horse, who was now in a terrible mental state, and persuaded him to go back. He left Black Shawl Woman with her parents at Spotted Tail.

After a night of being watched, Crazy Horse set out for Red Cloud with Lee and a guard of Indian scouts. Lee told him he could make his case to the post commander when they arrived, but of course he couldn't—orders were orders. At Camp Robinson, the post near the agency, while resisting being put in the jail, Crazy Horse was bayonetted twice in the back. He died on the floor of the adjutant's office later that night.

Captain James Kennington, the officer of the day in charge of putting Crazy Horse in the jail, who was heard shouting "Stab the sonofabitch!" during the struggle, suffered from testicular pain for the rest of his life.

Banana Man

Quote from: seafoid on May 05, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on May 05, 2011, 02:54:56 PM
I see the Apache Indians have written to Obama and demanded an apology for using their former leader 'Geronimo' as the code name for the operation - good luck with that one lads

The treatment of the natives was appalling. This is how Crazy Horse was killed :

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/feb/24/magic-crazy-horse/?pagination=false&printpage=true

Crook and Clark met secretly with scouts and other Indians opposed to Crazy Horse and made plans to kill him that night. Crook then left for the railroad. News of the plan quickly got back to Crazy Horse, who gave his guns to a follower and spent the night waiting in his tipi armed only with a knife—surely one of the loneliest vigils in our history. Black Shawl Woman was still with him (the new wife had departed sometime before), and for bravery in extremis you have to hand it to Black Shawl Woman, too.

The endgame proceeded. The plan to kill Crazy Horse was countermanded, replaced by an order to arrest him at dawn. Sheridan intended to have him sent east on the railroad, to be imprisoned in Fort Marion, Florida. A small army of scouts rode to Crazy Horse's camp in the morning, but he had ridden off for the Spotted Tail Agency, about thirty miles away, with Black Shawl Woman and two followers. At Spotted Tail, the agent, Lieutenant Jesse Lee, knew of the arrest order. Lee talked to Crazy Horse, who was now in a terrible mental state, and persuaded him to go back. He left Black Shawl Woman with her parents at Spotted Tail.

After a night of being watched, Crazy Horse set out for Red Cloud with Lee and a guard of Indian scouts. Lee told him he could make his case to the post commander when they arrived, but of course he couldn't—orders were orders. At Camp Robinson, the post near the agency, while resisting being put in the jail, Crazy Horse was bayonetted twice in the back. He died on the floor of the adjutant's office later that night.

Captain James Kennington, the officer of the day in charge of putting Crazy Horse in the jail, who was heard shouting "Stab the sonofabitch!" during the struggle, suffered from testicular pain for the rest of his life.
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ironic that the ball less hoor suffered pain there - aye the native americans got one of the rawest deals in recent history  :(

Tubberman

Quote from: Banana Man on May 05, 2011, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 05, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on May 05, 2011, 02:54:56 PM
I see the Apache Indians have written to Obama and demanded an apology for using their former leader 'Geronimo' as the code name for the operation - good luck with that one lads

The treatment of the natives was appalling. This is how Crazy Horse was killed :

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/feb/24/magic-crazy-horse/?pagination=false&printpage=true

Crook and Clark met secretly with scouts and other Indians opposed to Crazy Horse and made plans to kill him that night. Crook then left for the railroad. News of the plan quickly got back to Crazy Horse, who gave his guns to a follower and spent the night waiting in his tipi armed only with a knife—surely one of the loneliest vigils in our history. Black Shawl Woman was still with him (the new wife had departed sometime before), and for bravery in extremis you have to hand it to Black Shawl Woman, too.

The endgame proceeded. The plan to kill Crazy Horse was countermanded, replaced by an order to arrest him at dawn. Sheridan intended to have him sent east on the railroad, to be imprisoned in Fort Marion, Florida. A small army of scouts rode to Crazy Horse's camp in the morning, but he had ridden off for the Spotted Tail Agency, about thirty miles away, with Black Shawl Woman and two followers. At Spotted Tail, the agent, Lieutenant Jesse Lee, knew of the arrest order. Lee talked to Crazy Horse, who was now in a terrible mental state, and persuaded him to go back. He left Black Shawl Woman with her parents at Spotted Tail.

After a night of being watched, Crazy Horse set out for Red Cloud with Lee and a guard of Indian scouts. Lee told him he could make his case to the post commander when they arrived, but of course he couldn't—orders were orders. At Camp Robinson, the post near the agency, while resisting being put in the jail, Crazy Horse was bayonetted twice in the back. He died on the floor of the adjutant's office later that night.

Captain James Kennington, the officer of the day in charge of putting Crazy Horse in the jail, who was heard shouting "Stab the sonofabitch!" during the struggle, suffered from testicular pain for the rest of his life.
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ironic that the ball less hoor suffered pain there - aye the native americans got one of the rawest deals in recent history  :(

What's the relevance or significance of that though?  ???
Are they implying it was karma?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

NAG1

Have to say was seriously suprised at the choice of code name for Osama? Maybe not the time for PC thinking but surely there were other less emotive names to choose for Osama.

dec

Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2011, 04:07:26 PM
Have to say was seriously suprised at the choice of code name for Osama? Maybe not the time for PC thinking but surely there were other less emotive names to choose for Osama.

Geronimo was not the codeword for OBL. It was Jackpot. Geronimo was the codeword for successful completion on the mission.

thebigfella

Quote from: dec on May 05, 2011, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2011, 04:07:26 PM
Have to say was seriously suprised at the choice of code name for Osama? Maybe not the time for PC thinking but surely there were other less emotive names to choose for Osama.

Geronimo was not the codeword for OBL. It was Jackpot. Geronimo was the codeword for successful completion on the mission.

Yep when they were pushing him over the edge of the aircraft carrier, Geronimooooooooooooo...........  ;)

AZOffaly


Tyrones own

Still no word from the war crimes tribunal here
...ye know who You are lads :D
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

dec

Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 06:47:42 PM
Still no word from the war crimes tribunal here
...ye know who You are lads :D
Poor old TO. Reduced to whining about what people haven't said. :)

muppet

Quote from: dec on May 05, 2011, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 06:47:42 PM
Still no word from the war crimes tribunal here
...ye know who You are lads :D
Poor old TO. Reduced to whining about what people haven't said. :)

Maybe Sarah Palin can ask God to unkill him so she can do it properly on behalf of soccer-moms and tea-leaves everywhere.
MWWSI 2017

Puckoon

I will not have a bad word said about the Soccer Moms.

dec

Quote from: muppet on May 05, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: dec on May 05, 2011, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 06:47:42 PM
Still no word from the war crimes tribunal here
...ye know who You are lads :D
Poor old TO. Reduced to whining about what people haven't said. :)

Maybe Sarah Palin can ask God to unkill him so she can do it properly on behalf of soccer-moms and tea-leaves everywhere.

Palin weighed in on the subject when she was running against him in 2008..

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/172396/palin-runs-bidens-test-warning/kathryn-jean-lopez

Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday?  He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we'll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration.  He told Democrat donors to mark his words – that there were "at least four or five scenarios" that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe!

He didn't specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let's review the Obama foreign policy agenda.

Our opponent wants to sit down with the world's worst dictators.  With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to "wipe Israel off the map."  Let's call that crisis scenario number one.

Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism.  We'll call that scenario number two.


She thought that the actions that the US have just carried out would put the US at risk.

muppet

Quote from: dec on May 05, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 05, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: dec on May 05, 2011, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 06:47:42 PM
Still no word from the war crimes tribunal here
...ye know who You are lads :D
Poor old TO. Reduced to whining about what people haven't said. :)

Maybe Sarah Palin can ask God to unkill him so she can do it properly on behalf of soccer-moms and tea-leaves everywhere.

Palin weighed in on the subject when she was running against him in 2008..

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/172396/palin-runs-bidens-test-warning/kathryn-jean-lopez

Did you hear what Senator Biden said at a fundraiser on Sunday?  He guaranteed that if Barack Obama is elected, we'll face an international crisis within the first six months of their administration.  He told Democrat donors to mark his words – that there were "at least four or five scenarios" that would place our country at risk in an Obama administration. Thanks for the warning, Joe!

He didn't specify what all those four or five scenarios will be, but for clues, let's review the Obama foreign policy agenda.

Our opponent wants to sit down with the world's worst dictators.  With no preconditions, he proposes to meet with a regime in Teheran that vows to "wipe Israel off the map."  Let's call that crisis scenario number one.

Senator Obama has also advocated sending our U.S. military into Pakistan without the approval of the Pakistani government. Invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war against terrorism.  We'll call that scenario number two.


She thought that the actions that the US have just carried out would put the US at risk.

Well look what it has done to Tyrone's Own. He is complaining that we aren't accusing the US of war crimes!
MWWSI 2017

Tyrones own

Quote from: johnneycool on May 05, 2011, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 05, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
Watching Fox the last few days has been hilarious. They don't know where to put themselves. TO is the same it seems. Must be tough on them, bless em.

I was thinking that, poor TO is confused as he'd like to be happy with Obama for giving the go ahead, but just can't bring himself to praise Obama for anything. It must be tough in a black and white world.

I'd have preferred to see Osama up in the Haig instead, but that certainly wouldn't have appeased even the more liberal minded of Americans after 9-11.
On the contrary...sure I'm lapping this up while laughing at the stammering and stuttering from the anti US Military, pro Obama sheep here FFS, Obama is indeed being hailed as a hero here for finishing a job that dubya started, (even if he sat on the confirmation of intelligence since last August ) sure he even invited him to Ground zero for the photo op today which was declined and rightly so!

Surely ye should know that no one is being fooled by the twisting and turning here in that The Obama administration is still actively pursuing the CIA operatives under bush that participated in the enhanced interrogations even though it ultimately presented him the intell and opportunity to complete the one and only task of note he has accomplished since he took office  ::)
Pathetic is a massive understatement...Ye couldn't make it up!
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

deiseach

Quote from: Tyrones own on May 05, 2011, 07:21:14 PM
Surely ye should know that no one is being fooled by the twisting and turning here in that The Obama administration is still actively pursuing the CIA operatives under bush that participated in torture even though it ultimately presented him the intell and opportunity to complete the one and only task of note he has accomplished since he took office  ::)
Pathetic is a massive understatement...Ye couldn't make it up!

Fixed that for you