Osama Dead

[Milltown Row2]

If someone who was blamed for killing 3000 Irish men during a suicide mission was taken out by Irish special forces ( Irish special forces ) would most on here be cheering or worried that some innocents witnessed it?

Me personally I'd have preferred after all that effort of getting him they could have taken him alive and and gone through the legal system as to sticking a bullet through his head and dumping him in the sea

Yeh they are called the Army Ranger Wing (ARW) and are respected throughout the world for their actions in Liberia and East Timor.
They may not have the reputation of your countries "SAS" ,but that doesnt mean they arent  a top class unit.
I forgot the smileys         

I'm sure they are magic, could have done with them when the SAS were taking out civilians here in the north during the troubles

Of course the brits would say the sas were actually eliminating terrorists who were murdering British civilians wouldn't they. I wouldn't agree with that view myself

Either way you look at it the Irish army did fcuk all

[rrhf]

The us would never let a  bin laden trial take place .  The background to bin laden and the relationship with the us from the 70s would have made interesting testimony 

[theskull1]

The us would never let a  bin laden trial take place .  The background to bin laden and the relationship with the us from the 70s would have made interesting testimony 

Spot on. Many commentators making the very same point

[tyssam5]

I'm pretty convinced that Bin Laden is dead, the only other possibilities is that he has been taken alive (as some of his family seem to mention) and is being interrogated before being "taken care of" or that a body double was killed though DNA evidence would pretty much rule the latter out. After all if he really isn't dead and a few months later a video of Bin Laden appears referring to events after he was killed with unnerving accuracy, Obama would be torn to pieces and maybe impeached faster than removing man-made stains from a dress. Also if it was the case that he was already dead for several years before this raid, all the people that were linked to Bin Laden could say is something like "We know that Osama Bin Laden has been dead now for some time but we didn't want to broadcast it to the world. However with recent events with a claim by the American Government, we have released a video showing Bin Ladens funeral taking place on..." etc. Which would be a massive embarrassment to the CIA. Nah, I'm reasonably convinced they got him.

As for being buried at sea, an understandable compromise in diplomacy - if what the USA Government has said about his subsequent funeral and burial is true, then it seems to have been done according to Islamic rules (they probably would have had either an American Muslim volunteer or chaplain on the aircraft carrier in question or flown from Afghanistan to help ensure rites were properly carried out) while ensuring that his burial spot couldn't become a shrine to followers. There's form in the likes of this from the Nazis, Adolf Hitler was never really revealed where his final burial place was after his body was removed by the time the Soviets got to the Fuhrerbunker, and his mountain retreat was demolished to avoid making it a shrine. When Mossad got Adolf Eichmann in Argentina and was taken to Israel to be tried and executed, his body was cremated and the ashes spread in International waters in the Mediterranean again to avoid a shrine being made. More recently, when the last Nuremberg prisoner Rudolph Hess died in Spandau, the prison was demolished and much of the dust from it was dumped in the North Sea again to stop... well, by now you get the picture. Since it would have been rather unlikely that any country would have tried to claim Bin Laden's body it was going to be pretty much down to whatever the Americans decided.

The world isn't a safer place as such because Bin Laden is dead because the consequences of such can be both predictable (see the response after Billy Wright was killed) and unpredictable, and that he was more of a spiritual figurehead of a very decentralised group who will be replaced - though none seem to have the same charisma and presence that Bin Laden had. The tit-for-tat will probably go on for a while yet. In the short term at least though it's a big coup for the American government and whatever there has been about them and their allied forces have been doing or accused of in Afghanistan and Iraq, I don't think many people in the first world are disappointed or shedding tears that Bin Laden has ended up meeting such a fate - the only question in my mind is that if it turns out to be that he could have been taken alive rather than being shot dead, wherever it would have been better to have done so, and that can never be fully answered.

Do you think had he been buried in a prison yard in Israel there would have been a whole bunch of neo-Nazi tour groups coming through?

[Orangemac]

No photos to be released by Obama.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13287977

That means he isn't dead.

Correct.
I haven't read every page on this thread but has this picture not been doing the rounds already. I saw a picture today on the Market Oracle website of "Osama" with a bullet in his face but I couldn't say for definite it was him. He didn't have his Al Qaida name badge on.

Even if a photo is released people will say it is not him. If he is alive it will come out and I doubt the US admin, as clumsy as they have been throughout this would risk setting themselves up like that.

In an ideal world he would have been taken prisioner and put on trial and due process observed but could this ever have happened?

[Minder]

Pretty nasty, photos of three dead men from inside Bin Ladens compound, sold to Reuters by a Pakistani official. Photos taken an hour after the raid.

GRAPHIC IMAGES

http://t.co/ok5liSR

[Tyrones own]

Pretty nasty, photos of three dead men from inside Bin Ladens compound, sold to Reuters by a Pakistani official. Photos taken an hour after the raid.

GRAPHIC IMAGES

http://t.co/ok5liSR

We can expect the Boards resident War Crimes Tribunal along now at anytime... the silence is deafening 

[Puckoon]

The silence is that they are probably mostly sleeping.

You could be correct in a few hours.

[Tyrones own]

I'm a very patient person...I'll wait 

[Puckoon]

Christ I can't get enough of Bill O'Reilly. I really can't. It's the craziest, most nonsensical, aggressive, paranoid show I've ever seen - and yet here he is on prime time day after day.

[tyssam5]

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/04/holder-bin-laden-mission-was-legal-and-act-national-self-defense

These comments are hilarious, no sign of you up there TO!

[dec]

Christ I can't get enough of Bill O'Reilly. I really can't. It's the craziest, most nonsensical, aggressive, paranoid show I've ever seen - and yet here he is on prime time day after day.

Hannity pushes him close

[Puckoon]

Hannity last night was insane! Or maybe just normal - that was the first time I'd caught his show.

[Tyrones own]

Hannity last night was insane! Or maybe just normal - that was the first time I'd caught his show.

Is CNN down or something?

[Puckoon]

Charming!

I suppose someone would have to tell you if it was. But no. CNN was up.