Paddy O'Rourke Out!

Orior · July 17, 2011, 11:26:39 PM

Quote from: Take Your Points on July 17, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
Interesting that on BBC today that McHugh put up a defence of POR saying he was a good manager. It was a cute move by McHugh to put Jarlath on the spot but he managed to evade giving any endorsement of POR as a manager. O'Callaghan missed the opportunity to put pin Jarlath down on his true opinion of the management and any difficulties with the players which he would be well aware about.

Can you elaborate?

Naomh Pol CLG · July 18, 2011, 12:11:29 AM

We've sent him there to bring you boys down from the inside!

Seriously though, really surprised that the ACB brought him in. Surely his inept performance as our bainisteoir was enough of a hint!

Applesisapples · July 18, 2011, 09:03:38 AM

Quote from: Naomh Pol CLG on July 18, 2011, 12:11:29 AM
We've sent him there to bring you boys down from the inside!

Seriously though, really surprised that the ACB brought him in. Surely his inept performance as our bainisteoir was enough of a hint!

Absence of any takers inside after the antics of the CB left him as the only credible choice. As some said he has us playing good football at times but suffers from inertia when changes are needed and too easily influenced by those around him. Watching the reaction of the team at the end of normal time in the drawn game with Wicklow I don't think this current management team has the full support of all the players. This is not necessarily all down to POR.

BerfArmagh · July 18, 2011, 12:13:35 PM

In fairness to POR, I have attended all the Armagh games this year, & I must say for various reasons they have been highly entertaining. I appreciate that tactically he is very naive & probably is'nt getting the max out of the resources available to him, but I am happy enough, the play is attacking and at times quite creative. If we get over Tyrone, anything is possible...

lawnseed · July 23, 2011, 10:46:45 PM

oisin says hes not ready yet.. questioned by o'callaghan post match oisin mc conville said hes interested but doesnt think hes ready yet for the armagh job

bridgegael · July 23, 2011, 10:51:26 PM

aidan o rourke?

Kerry Mike · July 23, 2011, 10:55:44 PM

Micko for Armagh

borderfox · July 23, 2011, 11:12:57 PM

Tony Mac

TacadoirArdMhacha · July 24, 2011, 09:50:48 AM

We can start to discuss this issue again now, any speculation during the season was pointless and irritating.

What do people reckon as to the likelihood of O'Rourke doing the decent thing and resigning? I suspect he won't so that means there will have to be a groundswell of opinion against him amongst officialdom.
Time for the clubs to stand up and be counted.

mountainboii · July 24, 2011, 03:43:35 PM

A lot of criticism of O'Rourke in the last two years has been over the top and of the bar stool variety. Unfortunately, this has lead to the drowning out and easy dismissal of merited criticisms. But these do exist.

As far as I'm concerned there are two major issues that O'Rourke has floundered on.

1. Despite having two full seasons to develop a system of play that maximizes the resources available, he is no further on in this task than the day he took over. Even the desperate chopping and changing of styles throughout this year's league failed to produce anything worth talking about. This absence of a structure that everyone bought into and could fall back on when things got tough, meant that we suffered some of the worst Championship collapses in decades.

2. There has been so little development in the last two seasons that it's hardly worth talking about. We're supposed to be a team 'in transition' with decent underage graduates to bring through. But we're not really doing any transitioning. The majority of the team has remained the same throughout the last two seasons. We've a big group of lads in their mid to late twenties stagnating in mediocrity. This stagnation alone should be reason enough for a change. The last two seasons have just been a waste of time.

tevez · July 24, 2011, 07:01:34 PM

Well first thing is POR must go! Total shambles of a management team!
Now to think about who to bring in.
I would love Geezer, I think the boys would do anything for him and he'd really take this team places, but I realise it may not happen but I feel a huge effort should be made to get him in after this years championship ends. If not possible there are a number of possibilites who could go in together or on there own.
Paul Grimley, Aidan O'Rourke, Tony McEntee would be the ones who I would be most enthusiastic about and I feel either one or a combination of two of them would do a very good job.
After this there are people like Peter Rafferty who could do a good job.

haveaharp · July 24, 2011, 07:12:33 PM

Quote from: tevez on July 24, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Well first thing is POR must go! Total shambles of a management team!
Now to think about who to bring in.
I would love Geezer, I think the boys would do anything for him and he'd really take this team places, but I realise it may not happen but I feel a huge effort should be made to get him in after this years championship ends. If not possible there are a number of possibilites who could go in together or on there own.
Paul Grimley, Aidan O'Rourke, Tony McEntee would be the ones who I would be most enthusiastic about and I feel either one or a combination of two of them would do a very good job.
After this there are people like Peter Rafferty who could do a good job.

It is time for POR to exit the stage alright but given the ineptitude of the county board is this likely. Will they ever swallow their pride and appoint Grimley ? I cant see anything more than another year wasted ahead.

ck · July 24, 2011, 09:33:50 PM

Armagh have more managers out there than any other county. McGeeney is the obvious choice but as even the dogs on the street know that he is on crazy money on Kildare! The man I would favour for the job would be McGeeneys assistant manager at Kildare, Aiden O'Rourke. Word has it that he is the main man behind the scenes.

One thing for sure is that POR is a goner. Should never have been appointed. Has mad zero progress.

mountainboii · July 24, 2011, 09:45:17 PM

Quote from: ck on July 24, 2011, 09:33:50 PM
Armagh have more managers out there than any other county. McGeeney is the obvious choice but as even the dogs on the street know that he is on crazy money on Kildare! The man I would favour for the job would be McGeeneys assistant manager at Kildare, Aiden O'Rourke. Word has it that he is the main man behind the scenes.

One thing for sure is that POR is a goner. Should never have been appointed. Has mad zero progress.

That's always the way, isn't it?!

whitegoodman · July 24, 2011, 10:15:00 PM

Yas have no chance of the man quitting, he will never do it imo.

I have a feeling ur county board might give him another year as much as yas dont want to hear it. The goals for this year may have been to stay in Div 1 and beat down as underwhelming as that may seem. Not trying to stir it with yas but cant see him getting the P45 just yet!!