James McCartan Snr's post 1990 All Stars

[ross4life]

The two best goalkeepers of the last 20 years where Dublin men?

[imtommygunn]

I would say the same about Dooher.

I honestly believe that without Dooher Tyrone would have no all irelands. Any other player, canavan included, they could have won one without. Every good team now has a HF modeled on Dooher.

How can O'Rourke then, with his knowledge of the game, say that Dooher was a 'bad footballer' in 2003?

Everyone makes mistakes. Dooher on skill levels wouldn't be in the top forwards. However he has as much break ball winning ability as anyone I have ever seen play and his character in tight games has always been immense. He has had a major influence on a) tyrone and b) defining the role of the modern day wing half forward.

I wish he would quit the diving mind...

[DUBSFORSAM1]

The two best goalkeepers of the last 20 years where Dublin men?

Yes

[Jinxy]

The two best goalkeepers of the last 20 years where Dublin men?

I'd have Cake as my keeper. 

[isourboydownyet]

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

[saffron sam2]

All only opinions after all.For what it's worth I would for starters leave out Scullion.Downey,McGeaney,Dooher, Donnelan and Blaney and put in their place

Anthony Lynch
Martin O'Connell
Dara Ó Sé (move Cavanagh positionally)
Maurice Fitzgerald
Colin Cooper.
Kevin O'Brien.

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football

Given that it's a post 1990 team, Joyce and Brian McGuigan would push Blaney for the forty yards spot, but their over-reliance on the dark arts means, for this purist anyway, Blaney is the best (and only) choice.

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

I love satire. Well done isourboydownyet.

[Real Talk]

Anthony Lynch
Martin O'Connell
Dara Ó Sé (move Cavanagh positionally)
Maurice Fitzgerald
Colin Cooper.
Kevin O'Brien.

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football
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McCartan's team is packed with forwards that could win a 50/50 ball high or low and also create and take scores in tight championship games.   I agree that Thomas O'Shea should have been an cert and also Dara O'Shea instead of Cavanagh, who has not been the force he was since Dooher's impact is not as influencial now that he has come to the end of his career.  But its not a Maths test where there is only one correct answer, its all about opinions and how many time you have watch live performances

[ross4life]

The two best goalkeepers of the last 20 years where Dublin men?

I'd have Cake as my keeper. 

He'd keep ya entertained anyways decent keeper great character.

[Leo]

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football
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[Leo]

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football

[/quote]

Leaving Blaney out of any team in any era is seriously questionable

[shawshank]

All only opinions after all.For what it's worth I would for starters leave out Scullion.Downey,McGeaney,Dooher, Donnelan and Blaney and put in their place

Anthony Lynch
Martin O'Connell
Dara Ó Sé (move Cavanagh positionally)
Maurice Fitzgerald
Colin Cooper.
Kevin O'Brien.

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football

Given that it's a post 1990 team, Joyce and Brian McGuigan would push Blaney for the forty yards spot, but their over-reliance on the dark arts means, for this purist anyway, Blaney is the best (and only) choice.

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

I love satire. Well done isourboydownyet.

SS2 when you refer to Mc guigan and the dark arts, well I'm puzzled, care to elaborate. Outside of Brian making the best of Mc Cartan throwing the ball at him in the Ulster final, I can't think of anything that might fall under the banner of the dark arts, and thats including that specific act.

[nrico2006]

All only opinions after all.For what it's worth I would for starters leave out Scullion.Downey,McGeaney,Dooher, Donnelan and Blaney and put in their place

Anthony Lynch
Martin O'Connell
Dara Ó Sé (move Cavanagh positionally)
Maurice Fitzgerald
Colin Cooper.
Kevin O'Brien.

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football

Given that it's a post 1990 team, Joyce and Brian McGuigan would push Blaney for the forty yards spot, but their over-reliance on the dark arts means, for this purist anyway, Blaney is the best (and only) choice.

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

I love satire. Well done isourboydownyet.

SS2 when you refer to Mc guigan and the dark arts, well I'm puzzled, care to elaborate. Outside of Brian making the best of Mc Cartan throwing the ball at him in the Ulster final, I can't think of anything that might fall under the banner of the dark arts, and thats including that specific act.

I was thinking that myself, there isn't much that can be said against Brian McGuigan apart from the usual biased view that CmcC was harshly treated over chucking a ball at BmG and that McGuigan made a meal of it.

[Applesisapples]

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

We dealt with this issue before, its not all about medals...they don't buy you intelligence or credibility.

[Canalman]

Sorry Canalman but anyone who leaves Greg Blaney out of a 90s team doesnt know much about football

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A matter of different opinions Leo.

For what it's worth I also think that Páraic Joyce, Trevor Giles and Declan O'Sullivan were also better chfs than Blaney (who was a great footballer).

[isourboydownyet]

Tomas O'Se is the best half back of his generation and has to be in ahead of Paul Curran. Surprised Oisin didn't make the sub bench.

Bit of an appeasement to Armagh fans having Stevie in there Gocch is twice the player!

Wouldn't agree.......Gooch is a super player no doubt and I could see where there would be a debate between him and Stevie for that place, but twice the player??? No!
Stevie has had to suffer some poor service at times in his Armagh career,, if Gooch had've received the same service he would not have got the same scores Stevie has.

no doubt stevie mcdonald is a class act but just not in the same league as cooper,when gooch doesnt get the service he goes looking for it,just look to last weekends club match he ended up in the middle of the field and starred

Not in the same league?? Half as good as Cooper?? This sort of stuff sickens my sh1te.....if you want to say that you would pick Cooper instead of McDonnell then fair enough...........but this exaggeration is OTT.

gooch is head and shoulders above any other player at the minute not just mcdonald,even on a quiet day he still makes a major impact at some stage other players including mcdonald and brogan can be marked out of the game for the entire match,he is unmarkable

I'm getting it tight to take you seriously when you repeatedly spell McDonnell's name wrong.
Gooch is a super player.........so is McDonnell, opinions will vary as to who should be on the team.......but he's NOT "twice as good/in a different league etc." as Stevie.

thats what its all about,opinions and i suppose we should just agree to disagree.
as regards you not taking me seriously because i spelt his name wrong!well thats the first time i have lost my creditbility due to spelling,thankfully i didnt have to do a spelling test when they were handing me my medals!

We dealt with this issue before, its not all about medals...they don't buy you intelligence or credibility.

obviously my post has went over your head and yopu didnt take it in the way it was meant so either you have no sence of humour or ,ah forget it