Gerry's moving south...

[magpie seanie]

If you move the rate 1 or 2% the monetary gain for the country (or loss for the companies) is not significant. However it introduces uncertainty which is a complete no-no with large corporations. That's not speculation, I know it for a fact. We simply must not t**ker with the CT rate in any way, shape or form.

On the face of it the CT rate looks too low from a moral argument standpoint but for a country like ours that is so reliant on inward investment its a necessary evil. VAT and employment taxes come into play as well. Its not just 12.5% and that's the lot.

What kind of services would we have if more people were on the dole? Zap's argument is an example of why SF's "economic policies" are laughed at. They just don't add up unfortunately. Even Sammy Wilson was taking the piss out of them at the weekend.

[Zapatista]

If you move the rate 1 or 2% the monetary gain for the country (or loss for the companies) is not significant. However it introduces uncertainty which is a complete no-no with large corporations. That's not speculation, I know it for a fact. We simply must not t**ker with the CT rate in any way, shape or form. On the face of it the CT rate looks too low from a moral argument standpoint but for a country like ours that is so reliant on inward investment its a necessary evil. VAT and employment taxes come into play as well. Its not just 12.5% and that's the lot.

What kind of services would we have if more people were on the dole? Zap's argument is an example of why SF's "economic policies" are laughed at. They just don't add up unfortunately. Even Sammy Wilson was taking the piss out of them at the weekend.

Wrong.

People laugh at you because you talk about a change in CT introduces uncertainty. What rock have you been under?

People laugh at you because you use Sammy Wilson as an example when there are so many to choose  from when having a pop at SF (and me).

That's not speculation, I know it for a fact (not really though it's really just speculation).

EDIT- it's gone now anyway.

What kind of services would we have if more people were on the dole?

What kind of deficit would we have if the MNCs paid a little more

[lawnseed]

alright i'm a floating voter, 4 young kids and a mortgage the wife works as well who should i vote for in the election?

[Maguire01]

What kind of deficit would we have if the MNCs paid a little more

Depends on how many are left to pay it.

[lawnseed]

maguire at the rate the people of ireland are leaving the country, the mnc's will have to turn out the lights and lock up for they'll be the only ones still here. how do you plan to pay this debt when the only folk left in the place will be pensioners, sick, and east europeans on the dole, ff's solution is to stick the boot in the people who simply won't take it they'll young eduacated people dont know hardship and they just leave the country

[stephenite]

alright i'm a floating voter, 4 young kids and a mortgage the wife works as well who should i vote for in the election?

SDLP

[lawnseed]

yes stevenite they are the friends of fianna fail. its no time since they were snuggling up together even thinking of a merger. but they're a party in decline they'll probably disappear before the next election so they're not an option

[stephenite]

yes stevenite they are the friends of fianna fail. its no time since they were snuggling up together even thinking of a merger. but they're a party in decline they'll probably disappear before the next election so they're not an option

Alliance?

[lawnseed]

yes stevenite they are the friends of fianna fail. its no time since they were snuggling up together even thinking of a merger. but they're a party in decline they'll probably disappear before the next election so they're not an option

[Alliance?]

unfortunatley they are not in my area and although the concept has merit they are officially a unionist party and i'm a republican

[stephenite]

yes stevenite they are the friends of fianna fail. its no time since they were snuggling up together even thinking of a merger. but they're a party in decline they'll probably disappear before the next election so they're not an option

[Alliance?]

unfortunatley they are not in my area and although the concept has merit they are officially a unionist party and i'm a republican

Righto, you're going to vote Sinn Fein regardless of any answer so why bother asking the fckuing question

[Maguire01]

maguire at the rate the people of ireland are leaving the country, the mnc's will have to turn out the lights and lock up for they'll be the only ones still here. how do you plan to pay this debt when the only folk left in the place will be pensioners, sick, and east europeans on the dole, ff's solution is to stick the boot in the people who simply won't take it they'll young eduacated people dont know hardship and they just leave the country

MNCs leaving will result in more Irish people leaving, not the other way around. Is that not obvious?

[lawnseed]

i was trying to get some of the anti shinner crowd to give me a decent reason to vote for someone else. i'm not in love with sinn fein but right now together with groups like people before profit they're the only party who aren't in politics for their own gains

[lawnseed]

maguire at the rate the people of ireland are leaving the country, the mnc's will have to turn out the lights and lock up for they'll be the only ones still here. how do you plan to pay this debt when the only folk left in the place will be pensioners, sick, and east europeans on the dole, ff's solution is to stick the boot in the people who simply won't take it they'll young eduacated people dont know hardship and they just leave the country

MNCs leaving will result in more Irish people leaving, not the other way around. Is that not obvious?

chicken or the egg maguire, theyre going to have to contribute to the country they have set up in we need the money for health, and economic stimulus

[Minder]

i was trying to get some of the anti shinner crowd to give me a decent reason to vote for someone else. i'm not in love with sinn fein but right now together with groups like people before profit they're the only party who aren't in politics for their own gains

Course you aren't.

[stephenite]

i was trying to get some of the anti shinner crowd to give me a decent reason to vote for someone else. i'm not in love with sinn fein but right now together with groups like people before profit they're the only party who aren't in politics for their own gains

It's only my opinion but as long as Sinn Fein have Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness as active senior party members Sinn Fein will struggle to gain traction in the Republic - I mentioned this before and someone stated there was no evidence of this, I was busy at the time and let it pass but the 2007 election I think it was should provide all the evidence, the Shinners were expecting massive gains on the back of their success at the previous local elections, but the Irish electorate pulled a fast one on Sinn Fein for the reasons that they are viewed primarily as a party led by people with blood on their hands.