The People's Republic view of the Dubs on the hill

[Peter Solan the Great]

http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1017


Hell on the Hill

This Sunday, Cork's gallant footballers will take on the men from Dirty Old Town in the All Ireland football semi final at Croke Park. For once Corkonians will be excused from their duty on Hill 16. With the repulsive treatment of Cork fans in Dublin over last few years the chants of "the hill is for Dublin only" will be gladly implemented.

Dubliners have brought Gaelic games to a new low. And that's not just off the pitch (we'll come to the game itself later). Their fans are to the GAA Championship what English clubs like Millwall and Chelsea's dog-rough followers were to the English soccer leagues in the eighties and early nineties.
Hill 16: Horrendous.

In an attempt to be Dublin's 16th man (and by the beatings they've taken over the last 5 years it often seems like Dublin play with only 7 or 8 men) the Hill has discarded the common decency long shared between fans of opposing counties. The civility that might exist between fans of other counties at games is given a goldy-sovereign'd two fingers once the royal blue jerseys turn up.

Banter and ball-hopping are all part of the match day interaction and if you can't deal with a bit of 'craic with an edge' you should watch the game at home. But on Sunday the island will once again be subjected to the brazen booing of Dublin's bad boys, the hissing cynicism of the east coast's den of iniquity.

Boozed up bowsies from Ballymun and drunk Decco's from Drumcondra will converge on the Hill with a limited knowledge of the game, adding extra syllables to every word uttered to give their brains more time to articulate their irrational thoughts.

Yiz-a were bru-wah-tal.

It is often cited that Dublin have a distinct advantage over other counties as they never have to play championship games away from home. This of course gives the blues a gigantic leg up over visiting teams with their seething and cynical supporters hissing and booing every move by other teams. Particularly free takers. Furthermore, they ignore respected condemnation of their despicable behaviour from every quarter.

However, the greater context of the national interest must also be acknowledged. Would any town or city in Ireland welcome this sort of GAA fan? A chairde, the GAA must be commended on their isolationist policy as Ireland beyond the pale is far safer with this tradition being upheld: keep the Dubs in Dublin!

Secondly, the media in Dublin take lessons from their cousins across the Irish Sea. Tabloid thinking is endemic. 'Red tops' rule the roost and the irrational unruly disrespectful fan is both their target market and their product.
Your man is a Dublin fan.

So the Dub's biggest advantage is also their biggest enemy. The parallels between the fate of English soccer and the Dubs' single-code stab at Gaelic games are many: the memories of England's 1966 victory and Dublin's meagre achievements as a county are astoundingly similar even aside from the soccer chants adopted from British game that infest Hill 16.

Their sporting successes can be summarised as a brief rivalry with Kerry in the late seventies before most of their fans were born. It should be noted that Cork were busy at the four-in-row in the other code around the same time so those of you lucky enough to live in that era wouldn't have noticed anyway.

Despite cringing back-slapping documentaries to appease RTE's Dublin audience giving credence to the notion that the rivalry was not one-sided (Kerry didn't give a toss), the embarrassing reality is that they beat The Kingdom just twice (in their own backyard). Something that happens with the regularity of the Shandon bells in Cork.

The capital expects so much yet gets so little - while the local media bring the kindle and the fans stoke the flames. Therein lies the capital's undeniable principle enemy: burning festering self-hatred. The capital seems to revel more in self-criticism than any (albeit minor) victory. Does that ring any Morris dancing bells? As has been pointed out by many columnists at the bottom of this intense self-loathing is a confused Dublin mindset - despite the passport they don't know whether they are British or Irish.

So minutely geographically small is County Dublin that should they lose on Sunday the only solution should be to break up the capital into separate counties and attach them to neighbouring ones.

Wicklow, Louth, Meath and of course the Lily Whites in Kildare who Corkonians have an obvious soft spot for, may tolerate having parts of nearby Dublin lobbed on to their own counties. The west coast of Wales may also facilitate the arrival of an offshore archipelago featuring such distasteful 'attractions' as the Guinness Storehouse and other symbols of Dublinism. It would however be considered a homecoming for many Dubs and who would begrudge them this?

We urge all Cork fans attending the game to not engage in taunting with Dublin fans, not to boo the Dublin players and to leave the captial as soon as possible after the match, win lose or draw.

[haranguerer]

http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1017


Hell on the Hill

This Sunday, Cork's gallant footballers will take on the men from Dirty Old Town in the All Ireland football semi final at Croke Park. For once Corkonians will be excused from their duty on Hill 16. With the repulsive treatment of Cork fans in Dublin over last few years the chants of "the hill is for Dublin only" will be gladly implemented.

Dubliners have brought Gaelic games to a new low. And that's not just off the pitch (we'll come to the game itself later). Their fans are to the GAA Championship what English clubs like Millwall and Chelsea's dog-rough followers were to the English soccer leagues in the eighties and early nineties.
Hill 16: Horrendous.

In an attempt to be Dublin's 16th man (and by the beatings they've taken over the last 5 years it often seems like Dublin play with only 7 or 8 men) the Hill has discarded the common decency long shared between fans of opposing counties. The civility that might exist between fans of other counties at games is given a goldy-sovereign'd two fingers once the royal blue jerseys turn up.

Banter and ball-hopping are all part of the match day interaction and if you can't deal with a bit of 'craic with an edge' you should watch the game at home. But on Sunday the island will once again be subjected to the brazen booing of Dublin's bad boys, the hissing cynicism of the east coast's den of iniquity.

Boozed up bowsies from Ballymun and drunk Decco's from Drumcondra will converge on the Hill with a limited knowledge of the game, adding extra syllables to every word uttered to give their brains more time to articulate their irrational thoughts.

Yiz-a were bru-wah-tal.

It is often cited that Dublin have a distinct advantage over other counties as they never have to play championship games away from home. This of course gives the blues a gigantic leg up over visiting teams with their seething and cynical supporters hissing and booing every move by other teams. Particularly free takers. Furthermore, they ignore respected condemnation of their despicable behaviour from every quarter.

However, the greater context of the national interest must also be acknowledged. Would any town or city in Ireland welcome this sort of GAA fan? A chairde, the GAA must be commended on their isolationist policy as Ireland beyond the pale is far safer with this tradition being upheld: keep the Dubs in Dublin!

Secondly, the media in Dublin take lessons from their cousins across the Irish Sea. Tabloid thinking is endemic. 'Red tops' rule the roost and the irrational unruly disrespectful fan is both their target market and their product.
Your man is a Dublin fan.

So the Dub's biggest advantage is also their biggest enemy. The parallels between the fate of English soccer and the Dubs' single-code stab at Gaelic games are many: the memories of England's 1966 victory and Dublin's meagre achievements as a county are astoundingly similar even aside from the soccer chants adopted from British game that infest Hill 16.

Their sporting successes can be summarised as a brief rivalry with Kerry in the late seventies before most of their fans were born. It should be noted that Cork were busy at the four-in-row in the other code around the same time so those of you lucky enough to live in that era wouldn't have noticed anyway.

Despite cringing back-slapping documentaries to appease RTE's Dublin audience giving credence to the notion that the rivalry was not one-sided (Kerry didn't give a toss), the embarrassing reality is that they beat The Kingdom just twice (in their own backyard). Something that happens with the regularity of the Shandon bells in Cork.

The capital expects so much yet gets so little - while the local media bring the kindle and the fans stoke the flames. Therein lies the capital's undeniable principle enemy: burning festering self-hatred. The capital seems to revel more in self-criticism than any (albeit minor) victory. Does that ring any Morris dancing bells? As has been pointed out by many columnists at the bottom of this intense self-loathing is a confused Dublin mindset - despite the passport they don't know whether they are British or Irish.

So minutely geographically small is County Dublin that should they lose on Sunday the only solution should be to break up the capital into separate counties and attach them to neighbouring ones.

Wicklow, Louth, Meath and of course the Lily Whites in Kildare who Corkonians have an obvious soft spot for, may tolerate having parts of nearby Dublin lobbed on to their own counties. The west coast of Wales may also facilitate the arrival of an offshore archipelago featuring such distasteful 'attractions' as the Guinness Storehouse and other symbols of Dublinism. It would however be considered a homecoming for many Dubs and who would begrudge them this?

We urge all Cork fans attending the game to not engage in taunting with Dublin fans, not to boo the Dublin players and to leave the captial as soon as possible after the match, win lose or draw.

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[deiseach]

An amusing, well written article. As a serious study of Dublin fans, utter tripe.

[Celt_Man]

In an attempt to be Dublin's 16th man (and by the beatings they've taken over the last 5 years it often seems like Dublin play with only 7 or 8 men)

adding extra syllables to every word uttered to give their brains more time to articulate their irrational thoughts.

Wicklow, Louth, Meath and of course the Lily Whites in Kildare who Corkonians have an obvious soft spot for, may tolerate having parts of nearby Dublin lobbed on to their own counties. The west coast of Wales may also facilitate the arrival of an offshore archipelago featuring such distasteful 'attractions' as the Guinness Storehouse and other symbols of Dublinism. It would however be considered a homecoming for many Dubs and who would begrudge them this?

Some bit of that were fecking hilarious!!

[spuds]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

[heffo]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

Take that back. There were two Cork fans in Kiltoom for the NFL gane v Roscommon in 2008

[Frank Casey]

the Dubs' single-code stab at Gaelic games

Dublin have as many hurling All Irelands as Cork have football ones. Yerra that makes them as much of a dual county as the langers.

As for PRC - anyone who takes this seriously

[The Real Laoislad]

Boozed up bowsies from Ballymun and drunk Decco's from Drumcondra will converge on the Hill with a limited knowledge of the game, adding extra syllables to every word uttered to give their brains more time to articulate their irrational thoughts.

Yiz-a were bru-wah-tal

Funny because it's true 

[Michael Schmeichal]

Funny because it's true 

Good luck with Justin, ye deserve each other.

[swagger]

a amusing article and to be fair not much truth in it!, but i do agree with its views on the monopoly the dubs have over hill 16. For instance, if dublin do manage to beat the langers on sunday, will hill 16 be equally allocated between the opposing counties or reserved unequivocally for the dubs? ive i feeling either down or kildare will be banashed to the stand and not having the choice whether to purchase cheaper tickets!

[muppet]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

Take that back. There were two Cork fans in Kiltoom for the NFL gane v Roscommon in 2008

.......and they were from Kildare.

[Rossfan]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

Take that back. There were two Cork fans in Kiltoom for the NFL gane v Roscommon in 2008

There were THREE !!!
Kavanagh with the Sombrero, a fella with a drum and one other buck.

[ross4life]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

Take that back. There were two Cork fans in Kiltoom for the NFL gane v Roscommon in 2008

There were THREE !!!
Kavanagh with the Sombrero, a fella with a drum and one other buck.

Yes i remember the guy with the drum what the hell was he smoking 

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Funniest part of that was suggestion that Cork have a support.

Take that back. There were two Cork fans in Kiltoom for the NFL gane v Roscommon in 2008

There were THREE !!!
Kavanagh with the Sombrero, a fella with a drum and one other buck.

Yes i remember the guy with the drum what the hell was he smoking 

The Sombrero lad is on a match programme on the shelf beside me from the 1989 final, think last time I saw him was down in Pairc Ui Coimh this year.

[Bud Wiser]

Every year after Kilkenny hammer the Cats in Croke Park and the Annual Lampoons Vacation comes to an end you get this type of comments coming from Cork. This just proves my theory that in November 2008  when the Gardai  seized 1.5 Tonnes of Cocaine valued at €440 Million off the Cork coast  they missed a few bales as well.  Within a very snort period after this, book writers emerged like scriptures of old telling us all where we went wrong and how to reform ourselves to the Cork way of thinking.  Be loyal to your Brit soccer club and to hell with your country.

Corkonians have a gripe about Dublin playing all their games in Croke Park but not because of the advantage it gives the Dub's. You see, Cork people can't travel, they are bad travellers if you know what I mean.  Roy Keane had to come home from Saipan, Stephen Ireland couldn't travel 345 Km's from Manchester City to Croke Park to play for his country so it must be fairly hard for a Cork Supporter to come to Croke Park to watch Kilkenny hand out the thrashings year after year.  As it happens, Dublin did play one of the last All-Irelands outside Croke Park, in Cork!!!  Can somebody remind me of the team they were playing and the score please.

The article above is just cute Cork whoorism from start to finish written by someone who knows frig all about Dublin from the looks of it and that is not surprising because Cork are the only supporters who seem to disappear  back to Heuston Station and back to Cork after a game without taking their hands out of their pockets. This is probably because there are no Cork owned pubs in the real capital, we have Tipp (Hogan Stand) Laois (Copper Face J's) Kilkenny, Cavan etc etc because the owners of these pubs integrate, do not write books for us to understand their way of operating and do not insist that, for the cause, we have to drink Murphys stout.

The portrayal of Ballymun is way off the mark.. Last time I was out there I saw a completely rejuvenated area that has more GAA Clubs than Cork has hotels.  They even had a charity collection box on the counter of Little Caesars Pizza for the poor underprivileged of Knocknaheeney in Cork after they saw Des Bishop on an RTE program being lucky to escape with his life after trying to 'mentor' some of the locals!  Bishop is still shitting himself after that escape. The idea of Cork people slagging Ballymun is then a bit rich. True there are some areas of Dublin where things can be a bit out of shape, one such area being where you will see the old cobble stones, dirty bins and which was famous for its home for "O'Keefes The Knackers".  The main thoroughfare through this area is aptly named Cork Street.

In fairness to Cork they did give us Christy Ring and the Dixies and it is a measure of how far they have come since that they are still talking about both of them, along with of course their failed attempt at capturing the venue for the Eurovision Song Contest by holding it in a hay barn on a stud farm out in the back of some beyond.  I wonder what they will come up with on Monday when their footballers are sent packing along with the last of the photo shoot assignements ?   The game should have been played in Cork?  Roy Keane was to have popped in to give a team talk and didn't turn up? Shoot the manager?  Strike? Write books ?