AISF 2010: Corcaigh vs Áth Cliath

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, August 01, 2010, 06:29:45 PM

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Dublin seemed to run out of steam, which resulted in some sloppy tackling and poor shot selection.  Not surprising after the effort they had put in up to the last 5-10 mins.

Donnellys Hollow





Stone wall penalty lads. Hard to believe Deegan didn't give him the second yellow for it. I thought he gave most of the marginal calls in Dublin's favour for most of the game though. He's a poor referee as anyone who saw the Kildare Antrim match in Newbridge will testify.

The foul McConnell was sent off for was even more brainless and unecessary than the penalty kick. O'Leary was running into traffic and he wouldn't be the most noted shooter either. Absolute stupidity and cost his team big time.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

Dinny Breen

Quote from: INDIANA on August 22, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 22, 2010, 07:02:15 PM
definite penalty for me too, stupid defending..

what about all the poxy frees Deegan gave them as well that weren't frees. A truly disgraceful referreeing performance.

I have made my views clear on Deegan before, a very very poor ref whose incompetence almost cost Kildare against Antrim however he didn't cost the Dubs today, inexperience, indiscipline and a lack of a forward to take the scoring burden off BB did that. Dublins tackling has been poor all year imho
#newbridgeornowhere

under the bar

#243
Quotedefinite penalty for me too, stupid defending..


what about all the poxy frees Deegan gave them as well that weren't frees. A truly disgraceful referreeing performance.

As disgraceful as the refereeing may have been Cork have spared Duibin a probable AI humiliation from Kildare or Down.  Hard to call by todays game if Cork are good enough for an AI  as it was a poor game and unless Kildare and Down do better next week the GAA world will be on their knees praying for a Tyrone and Kerry return to the semis to entertain you all.   
 
As it stands you'd have to back Kildare for for the final as the only team left who actually possess a spine this year.

Capt Pat

O'Gara did well enough for about 45 or 50 minutes and then just stopped moving, he was out on his feet and there was a crucial 10 minute spell where with half of Dublins 2 man forward line not moving Cork were able to steal the initiative. Keaney came on 10 minutes late. Dublin first moved an extra man into the forward line before realising that the real problem, was O'Gara had come to a stand still. It must have been very hot out on the pitch today.
The other 2 things that went against Dublin were the sending off and the penalty.

I was on the nally terrace today in the top corner. It is a good spot to watch a match.

Capt Pat

Quote from: under the bar on August 22, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
Quotedefinite penalty for me too, stupid defending..


what about all the poxy frees Deegan gave them as well that weren't frees. A truly disgraceful referreeing performance.

As disgraceful as the refereeing may have been Cork have spared Duibin a probable AI humiliation from Kildare or Down.  A complete dung-fest served up today for an AI semi and unless Kiladre and Down do better next week the GAA world will be on their knees praying for a Tyrone and Kerry return to the semis to entertain you all.   
 
As it stands you'd have to back Kildare for for the final as the only team left who actually possess a spine this year.

What game were you watching? Newcastle V Villa? That was a very good game of football. I couldn't fault it at all.

Dinny Breen

#newbridgeornowhere

passedit

Quote from: INDIANA on August 22, 2010, 07:04:20 PM
But i can't believe we lost that game considering how bad Cork are. I've been so wrong on Cork. A truly average outfit. Doesn't make us look much good but we knew we're not that good beforehand. But most of the Cork team are so lacking in the basics its not funny. They ddin't win it- we gave it to them. Poor reflection on us too.

But I couldn;t fault the dublin team for the effort they gave.

You shoulda left it at that Indiana, a perfect summation of the game, the ref didn't beat ye ,ye beat yourselves. Have to say that B Brogan was as culpable as anyone in the last 10 mins. Truly great players don't take the options he took when the game was there to be killed.
Don't Panic

Zulu

Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2010, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: haze on August 22, 2010, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 22, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: haze on August 22, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Adrian Walsh sealed donkey of the yr, how that man gets on the cork team i dont know. There is no football in him.

I'd have him just behind Niall Corkery and Eoghan O Gara for that award. I dont mean to be harsh on Corkery because he is a trojan work horse but cant see how Flynn would not be picked ahead of him.

Alan Brogan and Cluxton must be wondering will they ever reach an All Ireland Final

If you think Aidan Walsh is a donkey then you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about football. I'll post on the game itself later. But i thought it was a great game, if the quality was be bit less than we would have hoped for.

No to be honest don't think he is a donkey was just following on from Sligonians point so was slightly exaggerating. All i can say about Walsh is that is so frustrating to watch. He turns over possession a lot of the time and more than any other Cork players seems to often take the wrong option. I'd rather Murphy than Walsh for the final if i was from Cork. Walsh is one for the future, very raw and will be a fine player in a few years time.

Yeah and it was a hugely enjoyable game, only a pity Dublin didn't win it

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 22, 2010, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on August 22, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 22, 2010, 05:40:43 PM
Lads, did anyone else think Paddy Kellys point towards the end (after the quick free) looked wide?
thought that myself

I thought that as well. Surely they would have highlighted it on RTÉ if there was a doubt over it?

I was convinced at the time it was wide even after watching replay
People will say he wins ball and does work etc.. you know the usual cliches, but this lad when he gets the ball is 95% going to give it away or balloon it wide and considering his performance in Killarnery where he imploded us with his accuracy to think he still shooting away is beyond me. That man shouldnt be allowed to use his feet at all. Lay it off. I dont think ive ever seen such a poor footballer grace an intercounty team that gets to an AI final.

That's just rubbish, he is a bit raw and is no Bernard Brogan when it comes to finishing but he is one of teh best U21 footballers in Ireland and will be a serious footballer for years to come.

QuotePeople will say he wins ball and does work etc.. you know the usual cliches,

They're not clichés, they're aspects of play that all footballers need, he excels in many of theses facets of play and if he steadies up in front of goal he will be outstanding.

By the way Spillane should be shown the door at RTE, his analysis of both today's games was a disgrace. His view of both games was simply the team that wins played the positive football and that is the reason they won, FFS.

orangeman

Best game of the year.

Fataztic commitment by both sides. I thought Cork were dead and buried.

Dublin's poor tackling / rashness probably cost them in the end.

Dublin will be delighted with the way the season finished.

As for Cork's it's their AI to lose now.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Dublin definitely left that game behind them in Croke today, but they'll have better days in the not too distant future.

Disappointed at the ease with which some of the big athletic lads hit the deck today, and they weren't wearing blue.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

passedit

Quote from: orangeman on August 22, 2010, 07:29:42 PM
Best game of the year.

Fataztic commitment by both sides. I thought Cork were dead and buried.

Dublin's poor tackling / rashness probably cost them in the end.

Dublin will be delighted with the way the season finished.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

As for Cork's it's their AI to lose now.

Random cliche generator alert
Don't Panic

haze

#252
Quote from: Zulu on August 22, 2010, 07:24:03 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2010, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: haze on August 22, 2010, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 22, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: haze on August 22, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Adrian Walsh sealed donkey of the yr, how that man gets on the cork team i dont know. There is no football in him.

I'd have him just behind Niall Corkery and Eoghan O Gara for that award. I dont mean to be harsh on Corkery because he is a trojan work horse but cant see how Flynn would not be picked ahead of him.

Alan Brogan and Cluxton must be wondering will they ever reach an All Ireland Final

If you think Aidan Walsh is a donkey then you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about football. I'll post on the game itself later. But i thought it was a great game, if the quality was be bit less than we would have hoped for.

No to be honest don't think he is a donkey was just following on from Sligonians point so was slightly exaggerating. All i can say about Walsh is that is so frustrating to watch. He turns over possession a lot of the time and more than any other Cork players seems to often take the wrong option. I'd rather Murphy than Walsh for the final if i was from Cork. Walsh is one for the future, very raw and will be a fine player in a few years time.

Yeah and it was a hugely enjoyable game, only a pity Dublin didn't win it

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 22, 2010, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on August 22, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 22, 2010, 05:40:43 PM
Lads, did anyone else think Paddy Kellys point towards the end (after the quick free) looked wide?
thought that myself

I thought that as well. Surely they would have highlighted it on RTÉ if there was a doubt over it?

I was convinced at the time it was wide even after watching replay
People will say he wins ball and does work etc.. you know the usual cliches, but this lad when he gets the ball is 95% going to give it away or balloon it wide and considering his performance in Killarnery where he imploded us with his accuracy to think he still shooting away is beyond me. That man shouldnt be allowed to use his feet at all. Lay it off. I dont think ive ever seen such a poor footballer grace an intercounty team that gets to an AI final.

That's just rubbish, he is a bit raw and is no Bernard Brogan when it comes to finishing but he is one of teh best U21 footballers in Ireland and will be a serious footballer for years to come.

QuotePeople will say he wins ball and does work etc.. you know the usual cliches,

They're not clichés, they're aspects of play that all footballers need, he excels in many of theses facets of play and if he steadies up in front of goal he will be outstanding.

Ah stop he has a lot more to improve on than just his shooting. If he was from Laois or a similar county I wouldnt be critical of him at all but he is not, he is midfield on the team that is favourite for the All Irelandl, he does win ball and work hard but do you think he is a better player overall right now than Murphy?


QuoteBy the way Spillane should be shown the door at RTE, his analysis of both today's games was a disgrace. His view of both games was simply the team that wins played the positive football and that is the reason they won, FFS.

Agree here. To me Dublin played the most positive football. More direct and put together some fine passages of play. Watching Cork at times would make you want to pull your hair out

under the bar


Bud Wiser

Gilroy was the one that messed up today and quite frankly I am sick of all this talk about him and his bonus territory and all the players getting up at 5.30am to start training at 6am which comes a close second to pushing cars around a beach in Mayo.  He mustn't have gone to bed at all last night because he was asleep on the sideline with twenty minutes to go, the manager of a junior club would have seen the change that needed to be made. 
" Laois ? You can't drink pints of Guinness and talk sh*te in a pub, and play football the next day"