AISF 2010: Corcaigh vs Áth Cliath

[Zulu]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

[INDIANA]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

Can't see it being high scoring Zulu.  But Dublin aren't going to allow it. Or try to allow it. Whether they suceed or not is a different story.
If its high scoring we lose. End of story.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

Cork avg 1-14 per game in 6 games while Dublin avg is 1-16 per game...

[Zulu]

That's what I thought. Both teams have put up decent scores, though the quality of the opposition and extra time in some games has to be factored in. I would expect both teams to get 13 to 15 scores tomorrow if the weather is ok so a goal could be significant.

[INDIANA]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

Cork avg 1-14 per game in 6 games while Dublin avg is 1-16 per game...

our average is distorted by playing extra time and bad opposition. As is Cork's. I mean who have Cork played? I don't believe either team is a high scoring team.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

Cork avg 1-14 per game in 6 games while Dublin avg is 1-16 per game...

our average is distorted by playing extra time and bad opposition. As is Cork's. I mean who have Cork played? I don't believe either team is a high scoring team.

So Cork playing extra time twice had no impact or playing the likes of Wexford/Cavan/Roscommon etc also doesn't count??

[ross4life]

Cork Scored 1-29 in the games v Kerry (Kerry team that included O Se, Galvin) would Dublin do that?

If Cork play like they did v us in the last 20mins they will win... but if they play like they did in the 1st 50mins Dublin will win

[INDIANA]

Cork have put up decent scores haven't they? I don't think any football team is as defensive as some people like to make out. Teams now get more bodies behind the ball and do so in a more organised manner but when they have the ball they look to score. I'm expecting a full blooded, quality championship match tomorrow and if conditions are decent a fairly high scoring game.

Cork avg 1-14 per game in 6 games while Dublin avg is 1-16 per game...

our average is distorted by playing extra time and bad opposition. As is Cork's. I mean who have Cork played? I don't believe either team is a high scoring team.

So Cork playing extra time twice had no impact or playing the likes of Wexford/Cavan/Roscommon etc also doesn't count??

take a deep breath and read my post. I'll highlight the relvent point in bold if that makes it easier for you.

[armaghniac]

Cork should be able to step up a bit and win this game. But if they do not, it could damage their prospects of ever winning Sam with this team. Dublin would regard a 2 point defeat as a basis for next year, but Cork have been bridesmaid for several years now and really need to close the deal.

[INDIANA]

Cork should be able to step up a bit and win this game. But if they do not, it could damage their prospects of ever winning Sam with this team. Dublin would regard a 2 point defeat as a basis for next year, but Cork have been bridesmaid for several years now and really need to close the deal.

end of the road for soem cork players if they lose tomorrow. Its that big a game for Cork. There is no tomorrow for Cork as Rocky would say.

[Zulu]

Not a chance lads. If Cork lose tomorrow they'll still be a candidate for the AI next year, they are a very young team by and large and have buckets of talented youngsters coming through. They won't lose any of the teams spine to retirement regardless of the result tomorrow, so I don't see how it would be the end. Cork are a better team and have a better squad and the result tomorrow won't affect that so going forward I'd expect Cork to be a stronger challenger than Dublin in the immediate future.

[INDIANA]

Not a chance lads. If Cork lose tomorrow they'll still be a candidate for the AI next year, they are a very young team by and large and have buckets of talented youngsters coming through. They won't lose any of the teams spine to retirement regardless of the result tomorrow, so I don't see how it would be the end. Cork are a better team and have a better squad and the result tomorrow won't affect that so going forward I'd expect Cork to be a stronger challenger than Dublin in the immediate future.

Zulu lads like Pearse O Neill, Canty, Murphy, Kissane etc will never get a better chance . If they blow this tomorrow I'm going to stick my neck on the line and say they will never win the big one.

Every team reaches a seminal moment in their development. This is Cork's tommorrow. None of the younger guys bar Ciaran Sheehan have really stepped up to the plate in a meaningful way at senior level on a consistent basis yet. Maybe tomorrow they will. But they'd want to start soon.

[heffo]

Not a chance lads. If Cork lose tomorrow they'll still be a candidate for the AI next year, they are a very young team by and large and have buckets of talented youngsters coming through. They won't lose any of the teams spine to retirement regardless of the result tomorrow, so I don't see how it would be the end. Cork are a better team and have a better squad and the result tomorrow won't affect that so going forward I'd expect Cork to be a stronger challenger than Dublin in the immediate future.

Every team reaches a seminal moment in their development. This is Cork's tommorrow.

100% - if they cannot beat a Dublin team seven months into their development they can throw their hat at it

[Zulu]

I agree that this year is a great chance for all four teams but I don't think Kerry or Tyrone will be much stronger than they are now next year so I would have Cork favourites for next year's AI whatever happens. And I think Cork can absorb any retirements that do occur and still remain strong, though I suppose this discussion is for another day.

On tomorrow's game, I can't make up my mind on how this will go. This is possibly because I don't know what Cork team will start tomorrow, I also presume Dublin will have something up their sleeve to free up room for Bernard Brogan or to take advantage of any double teaming Cork may try.

Cork have the better team but Dublin have a few of the championships form players, that might swing it for them. Looking forward to it immensely and I'll stike with Cork. The rebels by 2.

100% - if they cannot beat a Dublin team seven months into their development they can throw their hat at it

It's two years heffo.

[heffo]

I agree that this year is a great chance for all four teams but I don't think Kerry or Tyrone will be much stronger than they are now next year so I would have Cork favourites for next year's AI whatever happens. And I think Cork can absorb any retirements that do occur and still remain strong, though I suppose this discussion is for another day.

On tomorrow's game, I can't make up my mind on how this will go. This is possibly because I don't know what Cork team will start tomorrow, I also presume Dublin will have something up their sleeve to free up room for Bernard Brogan or to take advantage of any double teaming Cork may try.

Cork have the better team but Dublin have a few of the championships form players, that might swing it for them. Looking forward to it immensely and I'll stike with Cork. The rebels by 2.

100% - if they cannot beat a Dublin team seven months into their development they can throw their hat at it

It's two years heffo.

Can't agree Zulu - last year was still the swashbuckling team of 2005-2009 - check out the change of wholesale change of personnel & tactics