What should be done about the Leinster Final Fiasco?

Started by muppet, July 11, 2010, 06:05:28 PM

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What should be done?

Award Louth the title and Meath enter qualifiers
39 (22.8%)
Order a replay
69 (40.4%)
Meath are champions and Louth enter qualifiers
63 (36.8%)

Total Members Voted: 170

heffo

Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2010, 07:33:03 PM


Central Council have no role whatsoever in a game that falls under Leinster's remit - you should know that.

Was it the Munster CCCCCCCCCC that banned Sé and Galvin?
No ! so why cannot he said CCCC review this disgraceful error and make it right.?
I've been harping on about Umpires for years yet the GAA continued to keep its head in the sand and ignore the problem which came back to bite with a vengeance today ruining a great day for Louth GAA people.
Also who was responsible for Security today?
Surely there should have been a posse organised to surround the ref right away.

Will you repost that garbage - I can't read it.

I'm stating facts.

You're also confusing Central Council & the CCCC.

Let me know if you'd like a laymans version of GAA for dummies.

Maguire01

Quote from: redhandluke on July 11, 2010, 07:45:40 PM
More the umpires at fault than the ref - the ref can only a foul IF he see's it.  He consulted the umpire - he can do no more.  IMHO, the Louth players threw the game away themselves, poor shooting and ball handling.

As a point of principle Meath should keep the title, especially after the disgraceful behaviour of the Louth players and spectators, anything else will show that the GAA condone this type of behaviour.
Rubbish for so many reasons.

The extent to which the empire 'consulted' the umpire is highly debatable. He didn't talk to the other one at all. The umpire never raised a green flag until the ref came over. Louth's poor shooting and ball handling is totally irrelevant.

The Louth fans were indeed a disgrace. I don't see the problem with the Louth players. I don't think that should determine any decisions on the game.

Maguire01

Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
They are a complete danger and nobody wants to see young Louth fans fighting with Meath fans - because whether you like it or not, that happened today during all the chaos.
Maybe we should segregate fans in the stands then too?  ::)
If you're going to be a thug, you don't need to be on the grass.

Maguire01

Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
And I have to say, In my opinion a penalty should have been given even if the goal had have been ruled out. Unless it was a square ball but I haven't seen it in that much detail to say.
You've seen enough to award a penalty but not spot a square ball?

redhandluke

"And what disgraceful behaviour of the Louth players are you referring to?"

Pint, he handed out two yellow cards to Louth players after the final whistle, colourful language at the very least I would say.

OverThePostsAWide

Quote from: Maguire01 on July 11, 2010, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on July 11, 2010, 06:53:54 PM
Let's not exonerate the two umpires from any blame in this. They were the gobshites who had a birds eye of view, and bottled it.
Neither one of them should ever don a white coat again.
The vast majority of umpires appear incompetent. The GAA really needs to sort this out. They should also be given referee training and for senior games, the umpires should probably be refs, the way the linesmen are.

Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
What is the point of having the Umpires there if they aren't going to make the call. Umpires should prob be referees from now on.

Agree with some of these points, but not all. Agree that umpires at inter-county level should be appointed/vetted and probably should be qualified referees. But in the debacle today, the responsibility lies squarely with Sludden alone, I think. He makes the calls regarding the legitimacy of scores, not the umpires. It is also his call whether he consults with umpires or not. He didn't appear to want to consult even when summoned by one of them today. See my earlier post on the game thread here:

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=16650.msg816031#msg816031


RMDrive

Quote from: muppet on July 11, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 11, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
If this had happened in the first minute would people still be calling for a replay? If it was a point that was given but had gone wide? If a player had received a red card but didn't leave the playing area?
A combination of the stage in the game and Louth's long run without a Leinster seem to have made people go a bit mad. There won't be a reply nor should there be. Time for Louth to get the heads down and prepare for their next game. They are a good team and should be looking to go further.

But it didn't happen in the first minute did it? Why do people persist with irrelevant arguments?

Oh right, I see now. So irrelevant arguments are those that you don't agree with? You, and others need to straighten out the knickers and realise that the GAA will not award a replay (Don't think Meath will either).

muppet

Quote from: redhandluke on July 11, 2010, 07:57:38 PM
"And what disgraceful behaviour of the Louth players are you referring to?"

Pint, he handed out two yellow cards to Louth players after the final whistle, colourful language at the very least I would say.

He booked one player and a fan, which sums his day up nicely.
MWWSI 2017

brianboru00

I cannot understand why people are giving out about the umpires. They have absolutely no authority and are there to assist the referee only. If the referee saw the incident clearly then he showed an alarming lack of knowledge of the rules of the game and shouldn t be refereeing at this level.

My biggest beef is his sheer arrogance in the immediate aftermath. He didnt consult the umpire- he told him to raise the green flag. He should have taken his time and consulted BOTH umpires before making a decisions. Why didn't he do this?

There was another incident a few minutes earlier where a free

pintsofguinness

Quote from: redhandluke on July 11, 2010, 07:57:38 PM
"And what disgraceful behaviour of the Louth players are you referring to?"

Pint, he handed out two yellow cards to Louth players after the final whistle, colourful language at the very least I would say.
I'm sure but sure he would have heard the same from most of the country. Louth players should be commended for having the strength not to deck him and to even defend him. 
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

muppet

Quote from: RMDrive on July 11, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 11, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 11, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
If this had happened in the first minute would people still be calling for a replay? If it was a point that was given but had gone wide? If a player had received a red card but didn't leave the playing area?
A combination of the stage in the game and Louth's long run without a Leinster seem to have made people go a bit mad. There won't be a reply nor should there be. Time for Louth to get the heads down and prepare for their next game. They are a good team and should be looking to go further.

But it didn't happen in the first minute did it? Why do people persist with irrelevant arguments?

Oh right, I see now. So irrelevant arguments are those that you don't agree with? You, and others need to straighten out the knickers and realise that the GAA will not award a replay (Don't think Meath will either).

No, irrelevant arguments are ones about things that didn't happen.

I know the Gaa won't award a reply please point out where I said they would. I am completely against a replay as I believe Louth won the game fair and square.
MWWSI 2017

put-it-up

Quote from: Maguire01 on July 11, 2010, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
And I have to say, In my opinion a penalty should have been given even if the goal had have been ruled out. Unless it was a square ball but I haven't seen it in that much detail to say.
You've seen enough to award a penalty but not spot a square ball?

Yeah I saw the replay on the TV on the news. I saw a foul on Sheridan but I coudn't conclusively see if there was a square ball. Quite simple really.
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Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2010, 08:01:27 PM
Quote from: redhandluke on July 11, 2010, 07:57:38 PM
"And what disgraceful behaviour of the Louth players are you referring to?"

Pint, he handed out two yellow cards to Louth players after the final whistle, colourful language at the very least I would say.
I'm sure but sure he would have heard the same from most of the country. Louth players should be commended for having the strength not to deck him and to even defend him.

At least they didn't get a red like Keith Higgins, refs have their priorities up their arses.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

RMDrive

Quote from: muppet on July 11, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 11, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 11, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on July 11, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
If this had happened in the first minute would people still be calling for a replay? If it was a point that was given but had gone wide? If a player had received a red card but didn't leave the playing area?
A combination of the stage in the game and Louth's long run without a Leinster seem to have made people go a bit mad. There won't be a reply nor should there be. Time for Louth to get the heads down and prepare for their next game. They are a good team and should be looking to go further.

But it didn't happen in the first minute did it? Why do people persist with irrelevant arguments?

Oh right, I see now. So irrelevant arguments are those that you don't agree with? You, and others need to straighten out the knickers and realise that the GAA will not award a replay (Don't think Meath will either).

No, irrelevant arguments are ones about things that didn't happen.

I know the Gaa won't award a reply please point out where I said they would. I am completely against a replay as I believe Louth won the game fair and square.

Louth did not win the game. You may feel they should have but they didn't.

Rossfan

Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2010, 07:33:03 PM


Central Council have no role whatsoever in a game that falls under Leinster's remit - you should know that.

Was it the Munster CCCCCCCCCC that banned Sé and Galvin?
No ! so why cannot he said CCCC review this disgraceful error and make it right.?
I've been harping on about Umpires for years yet the GAA continued to keep its head in the sand and ignore the problem which came back to bite with a vengeance today ruining a great day for Louth GAA people.
Also who was responsible for Security today?
Surely there should have been a posse organised to surround the ref right away.

Will you repost that garbage - I can't read it.

I'm stating facts.

You're also confusing Central Council & the CCCC.

Let me know if you'd like a laymans version of GAA for dummies.

Who the fcuk do you think you are you arrogant ignorant asshole  >:( >:(
Delete  your insulting post you ****
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.