Sportsmans's groin/hernia

[North Longford]

Put_it_up, just because it was not identified on the MRI does not mean it is not there. Regular MRI is not deemed as being totally sensitive to detection of the sportmans hernia or Gilmores groin. I have one patient who was diagnosed with 3 different conditions of the hip as a result of and MRI none of which was the above. He was diagnosed by Gerry McEntee as having Gilmores groin and had the operation for this. Should keep in mind that very often long standing groin/hip pain is as a result of more than one coexisting problem.

[Logan]

Wrong Logan because mine was done under the very scheme.  Like all things there is always a way and your insurance is bound to cover it in some way. There's a young lad at our club at the moment who is barely 20 he has it  and will b going through the op at the end of the year. The only change in the policy is that you must now go to dublin to have it done by specific doctors (I think) in the north here the ulster clinic would have done it almost 700 quid cheaper. Good luck to u n e way  but I would go down the drastic route

It depends on what scheme and what you're talking about, but a standard hernia is not classed the same as a sportsmans hernia - for insurance (or more importantly for the surgeons bill where they can get x3 the price for it), so it depends on what or how you try and do it. 

[Logan]

Put_it_up, just because it was not identified on the MRI does not mean it is not there. Regular MRI is not deemed as being totally sensitive to detection of the sportmans hernia or Gilmores groin. I have one patient who was diagnosed with 3 different conditions of the hip as a result of and MRI none of which was the above. He was diagnosed by Gerry McEntee as having Gilmores groin and had the operation for this. Should keep in mind that very often long standing groin/hip pain is as a result of more than one coexisting problem.

When I went to see a specialist with mine he never even looked at the MRI or Ultrasound, he said it was a waste of time.
He also said that 'Sportsmans' groin was a syndrome and collection of disruptions not one exact injury.

Anyway best of luck with it

[The Claw]

Lads I happen to have an appointment with Gerry McEntee tomorrow. If you have any questions that you would like me to put to him I would be glad to.

[Logan]

Lads I happen to have an appointment with Gerry McEntee tomorrow. If you have any questions that you would like me to put to him I would be glad to.

Obviously your first appointment.

You'll be in and out so quick from Gerry you will hardly get a chance to answer his questions let alone ask him any!

[The Claw]

Go and see a specialist.

Getting detailed diagnosis advice on a forum is not the wisest course of action.

Did you not read his post, he has been to many specialists and none could cure him. If you name a specific specialist that he hasn't seen before it might be of some help.

Did you not read mine?

Fair enough, didn't see your earlier post.

[BNAB10]

Get an appointment with Gerry McEntee

A player from my club suffered from the groin/hip flexor problems that you describe and went to see gerry mcentee 2 years ago, who performed key hole surgery. the player swears by it and says he hasn't had a problem with it since

[winsamsoon]

Lads I happen to have an appointment with Gerry McEntee tomorrow. If you have any questions that you would like me to put to him I would be glad to.

Obviously your first appointment.

You'll be in and out so quick from Gerry you will hardly get a chance to answer his questions let alone ask him any!

True enough Logan he doesn't hang around time is money lol

[johnneycool]

Wrong Logan because mine was done under the very scheme.  Like all things there is always a way and your insurance is bound to cover it in some way. There's a young lad at our club at the moment who is barely 20 he has it  and will b going through the op at the end of the year. The only change in the policy is that you must now go to dublin to have it done by specific doctors (I think) in the north here the ulster clinic would have done it almost 700 quid cheaper. Good luck to u n e way  but I would go down the drastic route

Got mine done in the Ulster clinic, not much change from £2k all in.

can't remember the surgeons name, but he did 7 or 8 of the same operation that saturday.

[Logan]

Wrong Logan because mine was done under the very scheme.  Like all things there is always a way and your insurance is bound to cover it in some way. There's a young lad at our club at the moment who is barely 20 he has it  and will b going through the op at the end of the year. The only change in the policy is that you must now go to dublin to have it done by specific doctors (I think) in the north here the ulster clinic would have done it almost 700 quid cheaper. Good luck to u n e way  but I would go down the drastic route

Got mine done in the Ulster clinic, not much change from £2k all in.

can't remember the surgeons name, but he did 7 or 8 of the same operation that saturday.

In one All Ireland final a few years ago McEntee had done 8 op's on 30 of the players starting that day

[Fuzzman]

I've only scanned thorugh the posts on here but here's my story

I was based in London in 2001 and I had a lot of similar pain with my groin, my back and my legs especially after a game for a few days.

I saw some UK Olympics specialist who did that horrible wee test they do and said its Gilmores groin.
My Irish  health insurance wouldnt cover me for it in the UK so I went to McEntee.
He wasnt convinced to instead he did a adductor tenotomy which is like snipping the muscle between my thigh and my groin and then letting it reheal.
Not worth a F**K & must say I didnt like McEntee's attitude as a few times he was more worried about getting out to play golf on time than doing his job I felt but maybe that was just me.
Anyway I was sent to anoher guy then for months on end to get physio and see could he see what it was

I then just packed in all sport and after a few years I went to another guy in South Dublin and he immediately suggested my hip might be the problem so ordered an MRI
He was right I had arthritis in my left hip so I am now getting steroid injections & in a year or 2 might get a new hip.

[hectorsheroes]

How did the claw get on with McEntee?

[winsamsoon]

Fuzzman i will agree with you on the golf issue with Mc Entee. He had four of us operated on in a two hour stretch in the morning . Then we were sent back to the private ward. Mc Entee never appeared and one of the lads from Kildare ask the nurse would he be coming up to see us she said he would be half way round the golf course by now.

[The Claw]

How did the claw get on with McEntee?

Apologies for late reply.
Unfortunately I pulled my groin a couple of days before seeing mcentee (totally separate to the osteitis pubis in my opinion) and when initially examined, he said he reckoned I have osteitis pubis in addition to a groin pull. I was then sent for an MRI scan and all that showed up was a bad groin tear, no osteitis pubis showed up. I found this very strange as the pain is exactly the same as that when I was diagnosed with the osteitis pubis before by Eanna Falvey.
He has sent me an 8 week rehab program for the groin pull.

Amongst other obvious reasons, I am annoyed that I tore the groin because I have the feeling that his attention was focussed on that rather than searching for a solution to the problem that I wanted solved, which was the osteitis-type pain. I knew myself that my groin was fooked but I also know that the pain in my stomach is totally unrelated to it.

Unfortunately I wasn't quick enough ask him if it wasn't osteitis pubis then what could it be? and I won't get to talk to him about it until I have the groin rehabbed so apologies for not having more detail on this.

I suppose the million dollar question is.... does a sportman's hernia show up on an MRI scan? If it doesn't, could be the cause of my stomach pain....

[winsamsoon]

I think he would have been able to diagnos the Gilmore there and then for you Claw. The rather unpleasant finger round the bum hole region usually gives him a fair idea. That was my test anyway with Alan Kelly. He was able to feel like a pocket a space (which was were the tear was) Mc Entee should have been able to do the same. I have to say yours sounds like a classic case of it almost identical to mine