Israel Attack Humanitarian Ship, 10 men killed

Started by give her dixie, May 31, 2010, 03:50:01 AM

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thejuice

Lets just hope for their safe return.

I think Robert Fisk got it right. Where politicians are too cowardly to act, activists take over. Politicians have once again and its getting all too common have failed the people they serve.  :(
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

pintsofguinness

Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

blast05

Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

give her dixie

Folks, sorry about the earlier info.

That was the latest as I heard it, and folowing that, I fell asleep at my desk, and just woke up to find out that the ship is still sailing towards Gaza..........

They have rejected 4 calls to sail to Ashdod, and the IOF are now threatening to board.


Will keep you posted as I get more news.

PS I am speaking at a rally and demo at City Hall, Belfast today at 4pm.
If anyone is around, please come along.
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

give her dixie

Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

Yeah, it is pathetic to think that people would dare to help 1.7 million people who are suffering a slow Genocide.

They should know better.....

If you are that concerned for Sudan, and North Korea, why don't you do something?
I would support you if you were to do something other than talk about it......................
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

give her dixie

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

blast05

Quote from: give her dixie on June 05, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

Yeah, it is pathetic to think that people would dare to help 1.7 million people who are suffering a slow Genocide.

They should know better.....

If you are that concerned for Sudan, and North Korea, why don't you do something?
I would support you if you were to do something other than talk about it......................

So the population of  Gaza is 1.7 million ?
Can you back up your claims of a genocide actually taking place ?

I send my few bob on to Concern every month plus let them claim tax back on it and leave it to them.

Incidentally, how would you propose Israel defend itself against Hamas ?

Zapatista

I hope they're safe. Sad news that Palestinians in need will suffer futher without this much needed aid.

Zapatista

Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

This sort of whataboutry is all too common in Ireland. Shame.

CiKe

Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

Are you on the wind up? Undisputed shortages indeed in all of those countries and the western world perhaps could and certainly should do more about it.

I don't think people will argue that the flotilla organisers were looking for publicity - indeed it was a requisite in order to put pressure on Israel to end the blockade. The amount of aid by itself was a drop in the ocean compared to what is needed but it is the symbolic act of breaking the blockade which was important. I seriously doubt that anyone organising this thought that at least nine people would be shot dead, at worst they probably expected illegal detention and being roughed up. If they had just gone to the port and collaborated in the blockade then this would have been the ultimate sign of surrender and impotence against a government which has reintroduced the ugly spectre of apartheid to this world.

Far from pathetic, these people stood up for what they believe in and some of them were unfortunate enough to pay the ultimate price for their beliefs. These people deserve the ultimate respect - Israel has made martyrs of them.

mylestheslasher

Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: give her dixie on June 05, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

Yeah, it is pathetic to think that people would dare to help 1.7 million people who are suffering a slow Genocide.

They should know better.....

If you are that concerned for Sudan, and North Korea, why don't you do something?
I would support you if you were to do something other than talk about it......................

So the population of  Gaza is 1.7 million ?
Can you back up your claims of a genocide actually taking place ?

I send my few bob on to Concern every month plus let them claim tax back on it and leave it to them.

Incidentally, how would you propose Israel defend itself against Hamas ?

Aren't you a great lad sending your few bob to concern. I have a big gold star sticker here for you.
You are so ill informed it is scary. Even worse, obviously knowing nothing of the history of the middle east you still feel that you can come on here and write shite about it. Perhaps you are Ian O Doherty?

ISrael defend itself against Hamas. Let me give you a simple analogy (your a simple sort of guy I'd say). Israel was planted in this region and all those who happened to have left their homes on a certain night found that they could never go home again. Some that did find a way back found Israelis living in their homes. Naturally there was resistance to this - labelled terrorism by Israel and her friends. That wasn't enough for Israel who went on to steal land from others and plant their people there. We had a similar ethic cleansing in Ireland called the plantations - you may have heard about it. Israel is armed to the teeth and has nuclear bombs. Israel continues to steal palestinian land and any token resistance is met with shite about "we must defend ourselves". Israel is the aggressor here, it is simple to see. Unless of course you are stupid enough to swallow the Israel military and government press releases which are spin and lies 99% of the time. If you are that stupid then there is no point me trying to inform you.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: give her dixie on June 05, 2010, 09:34:08 AM
Quote from: blast05 on June 05, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
Why haven't the activists diverted their aid to say Sudan or Zimbabwe or even North Korea where there are undisputed food shortages ?
And given that they are insistent on their current course of action, then why didn't they just go to the Israeli port .... they knew full well that there was no way the Israelis were going to let them go ahead on their course of action so what was the purpose of going ahead with it other than to try and feel great about themselves by gathering even more media publiciity ? Its a little pathetic actually.

Yeah, it is pathetic to think that people would dare to help 1.7 million people who are suffering a slow Genocide.

They should know better.....

If you are that concerned for Sudan, and North Korea, why don't you do something?
I would support you if you were to do something other than talk about it......................

So the population of  Gaza is 1.7 million ?
Can you back up your claims of a genocide actually taking place ?

I send my few bob on to Concern every month plus let them claim tax back on it and leave it to them.


Incidentally, how would you propose Israel defend itself against Hamas ?
and you slag off those who put themselves in danger (and who die) trying to bring aid to people.
You're great.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Zapatista

Israel is he US. Any futher blood will be on Obama's hands.

give her dixie

Rachel Corrie is to dock shortly in Ashdod, after been denied entry into Gaza by the IOF.

Ireland, I guess it's time to back up your fighting talk...............................
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

Zapatista

Quote from: give her dixie on June 05, 2010, 12:06:12 PM
Rachel Corrie is to dock shortly in Ashdod, after been denied entry into Gaza by the IOF.

Ireland, I guess it's time to back up your fighting talk...............................

A stern talking to I should expect.