Israel Attack Humanitarian Ship, 10 men killed

[caughtredhanded]

John Hurson's a Tyrone legend. A top class fella.

[Nally Stand]

peter canavan was name dropping the famous john huron tonight on setanta ireland 
mentioned the gazza gaa team and jerseys

Maybe a Gaza GAA jersey could be produced to raise some funds. I don't know if you are online these times John but do you think it would be worth considering? I know I'd buy and proudly wear it

[Hereiam]

Jesus Nally why would the GAA want to get involved in this. Its a sports body. What is happening in Gaza is sad but with the powers involved, Ireland is small fish.

[Nally Stand]

Well you know what I mean, not GAA jerseys but O'Neills designed jerseys. They have made such things in the past for various 'non-sporting' causes and have sold well. Ireland may be small fish, but does that mean that all ideas for helping the situation for Gazans, however trivial, should not be considered?

P.S. I don't for one minute think that Ireland will change things there, nor did I suggest so, but donating a feckin few pound will help some poor bugger who could do really be doing with help

[Minder]

Four Israelis, including a pregnant woman, have been killed by Palestinian gunmen in the West Bank on the eve of peace talks in Washington.

The two men and two women were ambushed while driving near the Jewish settlement Kiryat Arba near Hebron, which has been a flash point of violence in the past.

Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said: "Obviously it was terrorist attack."

The country's Channel Two television said they had been shot from a passing vehicle.

No-one has yet claimed responsibility but Hamas Islamists in the Gaza Strip have praised the shooting.

"Hamas praises the attack and regards it as a natural response to the crimes of the occupation," said Sami Abu-Zuhri, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza.

Militant groups have in the past staged attacks to sabotage peace efforts.

The Israeli and Palestinian leaders are due to meet President Barack Obama for dinner at the White House on Wednesday.

Formal talks are due to begin on Sept 2 - their first direct negotiations for nearly two years.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said protecting Israel's security interests will be his top priority in the negotiations.

Before leaving for Washington, Mr Netanyahu told his Likud Party he would seek "real arrangements on the ground" that ensure the security of Israelis.

"True peace is not a short break between wars, it's not a short break between terror attacks," he said.

"True peace is something that persists dozens of years, that stands well for generations."

President Barack Obama hopes to forge a peace agreement within one year.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Mr Netanyahu will meet separately with Mr Obama on Wednesday.

Then, joined by Jordan's King Abdullah and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, they will attend a White House dinner intended to set the stage for the launch of formal talks a day later at the State Department.

Jordan and Egypt are the only two Arab nations with peace deals with Israel.

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[Tyrones own]

Dixey'll be along shortly with his spin...maybe they shot
Themselves by accident ...filth!

[mylestheslasher]

Dixey'll be along shortly with his spin...maybe they shot
Themselves by accident ...filth!

I agree TO - the people who did this (assuming the report is accurate) are filth. However, why can you and others of your ilk not say the same about the Israeli army when they blow up a school that they had just moved women and children into as they did on the last invasion of Gaza and was widely reported by the UN?

[Tyrones own]

Post a link...i'd like to read that!
* an unbiased one

[mylestheslasher]

Post a link...i'd like to read that!
* an unbiased one

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/gaza-israel-war-crimes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm

And Irish head of the un in Gaza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeVtXALZS_o

Did they not carry these reports in the us media? I wonder why not.

[Tyrones own]

Post a link...i'd like to read that!
* an unbiased one

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/gaza-israel-war-crimes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm

And Irish head of the un in Gaza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeVtXALZS_o

Did they not carry these reports in the us media? I wonder why not.

Quite the comedian  Well Fox didn't carry it anyway cause it never actually happened...and so they wisely didn't run with it
that's why they're the #1 cable news network in America 

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/Did_Israel_Shell_a_UN_School_The_Truth_Exposed.asp

[PadraicHenryPearse]

very quick to call them filth where was your shock at the lost of innocent life on the ship on the 29 pages previous to this.......typical, you brand everyone else as blinkered and only seeing one side......

on your previous post, maybe if Israel hadn't had a media blackout on Gaza during that period more accurate reports could have come out first and maybe so many civilians wouldn't have been injured/killed regardless of where they were standing

[mylestheslasher]

Post a link...i'd like to read that!
* an unbiased one

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/13/gaza-israel-war-crimes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm

And Irish head of the un in Gaza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeVtXALZS_o

Did they not carry these reports in the us media? I wonder why not.

Quite the comedian  Well Fox didn't carry it anyway cause it never actually happened...and so they wisely didn't run with it
that's why they're the #1 cable news network in America 

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/Did_Israel_Shell_a_UN_School_The_Truth_Exposed.asp

So every major news agency in the west is wrong but "honestreporting.com" is right, have a look at every other story on that page. I'll simplfy for you Hamas/Palestinians = Bad, Israel = Good. You are totally deluded if you take that rubbish to be true. Did you listen to Ging describe how they warned of Israel from shelling as they were in constant radio contact. I suppose they didn't bomb the UN compound either? You have just shown what a completely biased fool you are TO in all your glory. You are no Irishman thats for sure

[Tyrones own]

Funny you must have missed this bit during a follow up interview with Ging;

"We have provided the GPS co-ordinates of every single one of our locations," he told the BBC. "They are clearly marked with UN insignia, flags flying, lights shining on the flags at night. It's very clear that these are United Nations installations."

Later, in the Globe and Mail investigation, Ging:

    acknowledged in an interview this week that all three Israeli mortar shells landed outside the school and that "no one was killed in the school."

    "I told the Israelis that none of the shells landed in the school," he said.[/b]
So who is actually delusionally misinformed here in running with the story of the Evil Israeli's intentionally bombing a school... idiot!

You are no Irishman thats for sure

This isn't the first time I've had this leveled at me...so go ahead and enlighten me as to what accurately defines
what it means to be an Irishman in your wee world.... and while you're at it, fill me in on who the fcuk you think you are!

[magpie seanie]

Shame on you myles - I'll have to explain it for you. You see because the shells landed outside the school compound its ok that they killed 40 odd people. Israel's military genius is so precise that the knew exactly where the shells would land and they surgically removed 40 odd terrorists who were standing around outside the school. You probably wouldn't understand how this was possible and it might look risky to have shells detonating so close to a school that people in the school compound get injured by the shrapnel but really this was a surgically targetted miliary exercise. 

Myles - there really is no point arguing with someone as deluded as our friend here but remember if this could happen to an Irish guy going over there, what hope is there for the millions who couldn't know any better.

[give her dixie]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3948049,00.html


Soldier admits to looting Turkish ship


Military Prosecution set to file indictments against officer, two soldiers suspected of involvement in theft of laptops, other equipment from Mavi Marmara after it was seized by commandos. 'Their behavior was disgraceful,' IDF official say.

Less than two weeks after Ynet reported on the looting of the Mavi Marmara, the Military Prosecution is expected to file an indictment Thursday against a soldier who admitted to stealing a laptop computer, two camera and a compass belonging to the passengers of the Turkish vessel, which was seized by Israeli commandos as it was making its way to Gaza.

Nine Turkish citizens were killed in the May 31 incident. The ship's passengers were detained and later released.

Indictments are expected to be filed against two other suspects in the coming days. One of the suspects is an officer. An army official called the affair "one of the most embarrassing the IDF has known in recent years."

The soldiers involved are expected to be charged with looting, theft, dealing in stolen property and behavior unbefitting of a soldier.

IDF investigators obtained information indicating that computers stolen from the flotilla were being traded within the army. The probe found that among the suspects were commanders who were tasked with preventing unauthorized personnel from boarding the Marmara while it was docked in Ashdod's port.

According to the investigation, the suspected soldiers purchased the stolen goods from the commanders.

One of the soldiers, who was arrested last week, admitted to taking the equipment. The officer, a second lieutenant, denied the allegations. However, Military Police believe he and a soldier stole a number of laptops, and then sold them to another soldier.

An indictment is also expected to be filed against a soldier suspected of stealing a laptop and an handheld video game device from the ship.

The soldiers who allegedly purchased the stolen goods are also expected to stand trial, but the charges filed against them will apparently not be as stringent.

"The soldiers' behavior was disgraceful, and they should be brought to justice," an IDF official said