Israel Attack Humanitarian Ship, 10 men killed

Started by give her dixie, May 31, 2010, 03:50:01 AM

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Pangurban

Certainly not defending Tyrones Own, i despise his views, merely  questioning the psychology behind choices people make, as to which groups of people are deemed worthy of assistance. We have Medicins San Frontiers, but i am not sure we have Aid Sans Frontiers

reddgnhand

Quote from: Malvinas on June 12, 2010, 06:23:12 PM
"Tyrones own" ?

Ditch the tricolour and the county username.

You're an embarassment to both.


Couldnt agree more. Get Tyrone out of your username but keep the rest because you are on your own ye p***k.   

Arthur_Friend

Quote from: Tyrones own on June 13, 2010, 12:12:30 AM
Ah Yes...when all else fails, insult after insult after insult for simply refusing to adhere to the sheep mentality
in following the resident Pied Piper.

And yet ye wonder why I question the reasoning behind the agenda from the time to time,
ruffle a few feathers and the real truth surfaces...face it lads ye are hardly advocates or
poster children for peace now are ye ::) charlatans the lot of ye!!

Typical of your nonsense.

You only received insults after your own insulting insinuations in your previous post. You know, the one the Mods have now edited  ;)

Hilarious, by the way, that you of all people make a reference to sheep mentality  :D

Zapatista

Quote from: Pangurban on June 13, 2010, 02:57:37 AM
Curious question lads....Why did we not have flotillas of flotillas of Ships bearing humanitarian aid to break the US embargo on Cuba, which by the way is still going on. Are the Cubans not sexy enough

The Blockade and the embargo are different. Cuba has a recognised Government who trade with many countries. They also have functioning domestic production in agriculture. The US embargo is not adhered to by all countries and in particular some surounding Cuba. In Gaza their is a blockade in which nothing enters or leaves without going through the Israelis. Not only that but they bombed the shit out of every resourse Gaza had and then blockaded.


stew

Were are the mods of this f**king site?

The amount of abuse being handed out here is an absolute disgrace.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

ardmhachaabu

Quote from: stew on June 13, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
Were are the mods of this f**king site?

The amount of abuse being handed out here is an absolute disgrace.
Yes, Tyrone's Own should have been banned by now
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something

Tyrones own

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on June 13, 2010, 04:09:56 PM
Quote from: stew on June 13, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
Were are the mods of this f**king site?

The amount of abuse being handed out here is an absolute disgrace.
Yes, Tyrone's Own should have been banned by now

I  should be banned?...if I were to go there should be 10 or 12 coming with me :o

When everyone is against you, it means that you are absolutely wrong or.......... absolutely right !
  - Albert Guinon
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

stew

Nobody is right on this thread, absolutely nobody.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Ludraman


Aerlik

Quote from: Tyrones own on June 13, 2010, 12:12:30 AM
Ah Yes...when all else fails, insult after insult after insult for simply refusing to adhere to the sheep mentality
in following the resident Pied Piper.


You might acknowledge that some of us have had a keen interest in the situation in the Middle East for as least as long as, and in some cases, longer than some on this board have been on this planet.

Dixie is no Pied Piper, just a man with the conviction to see glaring wrongs righted. 

Being based in America does not help your cause.  In a land where only a small percentage of the population possess a passport, you really should attempt to broaden your perspective. 

To find his equal an Irishman is forced to talk to God!

tyssam5

#475
Quote from: Tyrones own on June 13, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on June 13, 2010, 04:09:56 PM
Quote from: stew on June 13, 2010, 03:28:29 PM
Were are the mods of this f**king site?

The amount of abuse being handed out here is an absolute disgrace.
Yes, Tyrone's Own should have been banned by now

I  should be banned?...if I were to go there should be 10 or 12 coming with me :o

When everyone is against you, it means that you are absolutely wrong or.......... absolutely right !
  - Albert Guinon

Or a bit of a c**k?

tyssam5

Quote from: Pangurban on June 13, 2010, 02:57:37 AM
Curious question lads....Why did we not have flotillas of flotillas of Ships bearing humanitarian aid to break the US embargo on Cuba, which by the way is still going on. Are the Cubans not sexy enough

With due respect that's probably one of the worst comparisons ever put on the board, which is saying something.

Hedley Lamarr

Jon Stewart and the attack on Helen Thomas
There is a reason Jon Stewart has such an intact comedy news throne.

He's well educated, always current, a sharp wit; he's funny, and he's the right religion.

I could care less what religion he or anyone else is, until it starts getting in the way of the human race, which it did in last week's program where he rips into veteran White House reporter Helen Thomas.

It takes comedy down a dreary road in my opinion, when people like Stewart speak in terms so ignorantly offensive to Palestinians, journalists, and all people with half a brain in on-air jobs. But all comedy aside, Stewart is heartless for attacking nine generations of American journalism and history, a person who knew presidents when Stewart was still a baby playing in his poop.

Helen Thomas, the only real voice in her league with the guts and fortitude to tell the truth about what Israel has become; a cruel gatekeeper for a whole population that owned the land Israel now comprises, only 60 years ago.

Jon Stewart obviously believes the line about the "Chosen People who can kill and pillage in the name of God". Israel's military operates like the Nazis' who oppressed them in the 1930s and 1940s and while it isn't socially acceptable to talk about it, it is still being increasingly discussed. The people of Gaza are sniped from Israeli towers, farmers are shot down in their fields. Families are slaughtered by Israel's military while having picnics on the beach.

Jon Stewart is cool with that, it creeps me out.

I have heard Jon Stewart go on about "Iran's nukes" when in fact there is not a shred of evidence that there is any plan there for nuclear weapons; it is against their philosophy and I defy any reader to show me a passage where Iran talks about wanting or planning to have nuclear arms. But Israel has hundreds, and every stinking one is illegal. They refuse to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; illegal and dangerous, that's what Israel is.

So after 60 years, it is still OK, with Jon Stewart of the Daily Show, to act like the tragic plight of the Palestinian people is just fine, perfectly OK. Then he has the lack of class to go on and on and on about racism. He's Jewish, so as long as he leaves Arabs out; he's meeting personal goals, and Israeli goals.

He's obviously personally angry that Helen Thomas had the guts to tell a rabbi who asked her thoughts on Israel, "Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine" — that is what Helen Thomas said.



Stewart misses the fact that she had the confidence to trust the little racist rabbi; she was telling him the truth, with regard to how she sees it, from an inside perspective in the White House dating back to the earliest years of broadcasting.

Maybe she has a point Jon Stewart, but then you are "cool" with Israeli oppression and the murder of little kids, ooops, I meant "Israel's right to defend itself", and the slaughter in Gaza, oh there I go again, "Operation Cast Lead" (somehow that doesn't sound much better). Then of course it is no big deal to you that Israel uses weapons that are expressly illegal under the Geneva Convention. Jon Stewart is one of the smartest guys around, he has to know, why would he choose to ridicule an American hero for speaking out?

Palestinian kids have to be escorted to school to escape daily violence from "settlers" intent on harming them. Groups like the Christian Peacemakers Team literally has to escort the kids past the radical Jews to simply keep them safe.

Oh wait, that's right, they are "defending themselves" as they attack little boys and girls in the streets.

We reported recently that the settlers are now organizing terror cells, to train in techniques that allow them to more effectively kill Palestinians, and if you actually read the story, and look at the images, you will see little Israeli kids being trained to be terrorists against the indigenous population that these entitlement babies have to steal from.

Oh, and if a settler squats in one of these "settlement" homes for ten years, he gets it for free. Israeli settlers bent on harassing Palestinians look similar in an odd way, to LA gang members; and in a similar way they move in packs, never fighting alone, with no regard for women or children in casting their violence. They are the scourge of Israel's religious lunatic fringe

Stewart's reply to Helen Thomas' statement about how Israelis should give the country back to the Palestinians was predictable, and mostly only understood by fellow Jews...

He said, "Why did the Jews ever leave Germany and Poland?"



Which is a total implication that it is "dangerous" for Jewish people to live in Germany today, and not one Jewish or German friend in recent years has tried to push that story. There are neo-Nazis in the back alleys and all, but you get punished in Germany for displaying a swastika.

He compared her to a racist manifestation of the Sesame Street character, Elmo. Must've had the writers on overtime for that one, eh Jon? Here is the clip that is potentially world changing, which received little fanfare, next to the comment about Israel's occupation of Palestine. What I could do is show pictures of little children intentionally attacked by the Israeli military during their winter siege on Gaza, 2008/2009. Schools were targeted, hospitals were targeted. I will never relinquish an inch in this area, I only regret not being in Palestine right now to aid our brothers and sisters who are starving and under constant daily threat from Israeli "settlers" — friends of Stewart's who are all religious fanatical Zionists intent on clearing all Palestinians from the land, in the name of God of course.

Any real hope for a peaceful solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict seems far away, though the recent murders of unarmed peace activists aboard the Mavi Marmara in the Gaza Freedom Flotilla are bringing about an end to the blockade, along with the efforts of Egypt and Turkey.

Israel went too far and definitely lost some of their grip, thank goodness for that. US citizen Emily Henochowicz was shot directly in the face with a tear gas canister as she demonstrated against the Flotilla massacre.

Hey Stewart, what about Emily? Do you know who I'm talking about? Right, the Jewish American art student from New York who lost an eye last week when one of your cousins over in Israel shot her at point blank range with a tear gas gun. She didn't die, thank God, but she lost an eye and was really hurt badly.

Cool with you Jon Stewart?

No mention of her in the Helen Thomas piece, why not?

Some Jewish people, like Emily, are the best people in the world, like Muslims, and Christians, and Buddhists, but you don't have some damned right to stand in judgment of someone like Helen Thomas, you're totally a punk next to her and you will never be her, because you chose to be a joke maker instead of a serious journalist, whatever.

Israeli people write every day in comments and to my e-mail address, asking why I don't tell the other side of the story. My immediate answer is that there is only one truth; one group is suffering and one group is benefiting, and that group is clearly Israel.

But what is Israel? There is no easy answer, the best one is that it is not Israel, it is Palestine.



— Tim King is a former US Marine with twenty years of experience on the west coast as a television news producer, photojournalist, reporter and assignment editor. In addition to his role as a war correspondent, this Los Angeles native serves as Salem-News.com's Executive News Editor.
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TIM KING | ARAB NEWS
Jun 13, 2010 22:33

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed:

Orior

So now Israel are going to ask Trimble to investigate the whole shenanighans.

What a waste of fecking time.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

lawnseed

Trimble is the perfect stooge for the Jews! after being literally kicked out of banbridge he was rescued by the Brits to the house of lords and has been in cold storage for just this mission. his joint Nobel peace prize with john Hume will be well talked about by the US and Brit media his join hands with bono etc in every soundbite. his other activities when he became known as the 'portadown prancer' will never see the light of day again. the fact that on the garvaghy rd the area he and his loyalist buddies laid siege to coincidently flys the Palestinian flag will only ever be aired here. yes its payback for David "we're in a spot of trouble David and you owe us bigtime" >:(
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once