The Battle for Fermanagh and South Tyrone

Started by Ulick, April 19, 2010, 10:36:25 AM

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glens abu

No they are too busy trying to find out how Tommy Burns got on in Iraq

longrunsthefox

Seems Gerry Adams and Gerry McGeogh had a row ouside Mass in Eglish at the weekend when Sinn Fein were out canvassing. McGeogh tackled the bould Gerry about something or other. Is in the Irish News. 

unitedireland

As Posted in the SDLP trend!!
Its Richie's fault if Unionist's take fermanagh and south Tyrone as the SDLP are not going to claim a seat they are only there to make up numbers and possibility take the deciding votes. McKinney was on TV last sunday and make look a fool by Gerry Kelly in a debate. Another celebrity politician - crap

Get out a vote sinn fein:)

It is alleged Rodney Connor got the top job in the council by default and cost the council lots of compensation due to equality regulations. Hope he doesn't get in everyone try and get out and vote

ziggysego

Quote from: Gaffer on April 19, 2010, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on April 19, 2010, 01:48:35 PM
Mckinney was brutal, Kelly was pressing him on the SDLP's attendance at Westminster then kelly snookered him about the 42 and 28 day detention period and made him admit they voted for 28 days.

McKinney was on the ropes then. I turned it over, it was like watching a packo f hounds hover over a fox i.e. i couldn't beat to watch anymore.

The man is a clown

You couldn't have expected McKinney to compete with someone as experienced as Kelly/ It reminded me of one time Ken Magennis making wee boys out of Gerry Adams and soon after, Martin McGuinness. Its all about experience !!!

Prehaps not, but I thought Mike Nesbitt held him a lot better against Jeffrey Donaldson than Fergal McKinney did against Gerry Kelly.

Mike would have the same political experience as Fergal wouldn't he?
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Maguire01

Quote from: unitedireland on April 26, 2010, 11:47:30 AM
It is alleged Rodney Connor got the top job in the council by default and cost the council lots of compensation due to equality regulations. Hope he doesn't get in everyone try and get out and vote
Probably best not to repeat allegations you can't defend. By the way, what do you think of SF Cllr O'Reilly and his glowing tribute to Mr Connor, posted earlier in this thread?

Maguire01

Quote from: armagho9 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
To be Sectarian means to be show predjudice against someone based on religion.
May I suggest you consult a dictionary? There is no need for prejudice for something to be sectarian.

armagho9

Quote from: Maguire01 on April 26, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
To be Sectarian means to be show predjudice against someone based on religion.
May I suggest you consult a dictionary? There is no need for prejudice for something to be sectarian.

a dislike, hatred whatever way you want to put it.  but it is based on religion which is the point i was making.

Maguire01

Quote from: armagho9 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 26, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
To be Sectarian means to be show predjudice against someone based on religion.
May I suggest you consult a dictionary? There is no need for prejudice for something to be sectarian.

a dislike, hatred whatever way you want to put it.  but it is based on religion which is the point i was making.
Firstly, it's not exclusively based on religion, although is understood as such by most people, especially here. Secondly, it doesn't necessarily imply dislike, hatred or other such connotations.

armagho9

Quote from: Maguire01 on April 26, 2010, 05:01:13 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on April 26, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: armagho9 on April 23, 2010, 09:55:58 AM
To be Sectarian means to be show predjudice against someone based on religion.
May I suggest you consult a dictionary? There is no need for prejudice for something to be sectarian.

a dislike, hatred whatever way you want to put it.  but it is based on religion which is the point i was making.
Firstly, it's not exclusively based on religion, although is understood as such by most people, especially here. Secondly, it doesn't necessarily imply dislike, hatred or other such connotations.

So you're telling us what it doesnt mean.  Tell us exactly what it means then?

Maguire01

Try a dictionary, or Google. Type in 'sectarian'; you may also need to look up 'sect'. I'm replying on a mobile, so I'm not going to start searching for you.

armagho9

Well i studied Irish History and politics for 3 years at uni, so i dont feel the need to google it.  You have a point that it is not totally based on religion and there can be other forms.  The reality is however that basically religion is the main issue in sectarianism.

Maguire01

Quote from: armagho9 on April 26, 2010, 05:22:46 PM
Well i studied Irish History and politics for 3 years at uni, so i dont feel the need to google it.  You have a point that it is not totally based on religion and there can be other forms.  The reality is however that basically religion is the main issue in sectarianism.
Your initial points in relation to it were a bit narrow for someone who studied these issues to such a level. Hence my google suggestion.

magickingdom

Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 22, 2010, 05:16:20 PM
Quote from: Zapatista on April 22, 2010, 08:57:57 AM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on April 22, 2010, 08:52:23 AM
Zap, with respect, that's rubbish.  Seeking votes along green/orange lines is sectarian whether it's unionism or the shinners at it.  Sectarianism isn't a one way street.  If unionists are at it you can't say the shinners aren't in the same breath.

The key element you're leaving out is the OO. I'm basing my opinion on theory and giving the reason SF justify this. It can be argued that it's accurate but i'll admit it isn't conclusive. You aslo seem to be dividing Green and Orange as Protestant and Catholic (which in itself could be defined as sectarian) and if that is your default view I will never be able to convince you otherwise.
Is there another way of explaining the situation?  If there is, I for one would love to hear it

yes nationalists and unionists. although there is a strong correlation between nationalists/catholics and unionists/protestants there not mutually exclusive

gerry

seen this clown with his hand wrote posters up round chippy street in enniskillen this week, also fermanagh hearld had a wee dig at him today on their back page comparing him to a school child

http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2010/04/22/391281-the-real-winners-says-surprise-fifth-candidate-stevenson/
God bless the hills of Dooish, be they heather-clad or lea,

ziggysego

Quote from: gerry on April 28, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
seen this clown with his hand wrote posters up round chippy street in enniskillen this week, also fermanagh hearld had a wee dig at him today on their back page comparing him to a school child

http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/roundup/articles/2010/04/22/391281-the-real-winners-says-surprise-fifth-candidate-stevenson/

He's going down, just like the Titantic.
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