The Battle for Fermanagh and South Tyrone

[ardmhachaabu]

In what way does your interpretation of sectarianism apply to Parnell and Tone?

Where did I say that?  Oh that's right, I didn't 

[Ulick]

What do you mean Ulick?  Surely you know what sectarianism is?

You said Tone and Parnell, both Protestants, were sectarian. I'm honestly dumbfounded at that, so I'm asking you to explain your thinking for me.

[Ulick]

If the sectarian headcounting business is true where does that leave good Protestant nationalists like CS Parnell and good Protestant republicans like T Wolfe Tone?

Dead.

Dead failures.

Dead or not the question is was their position sectarian?

Yes

[glens abu]

Wonder what Maskey thinks of being told to stand down?

Alex Maskey wasn't told to stand down it was a collective decision by the leadership of the party  which includes Alex Maskey.This was a decision that was taken after nearly two days of deliberations and is an effort the maximise the Republican/Nationalist represention across the North. Yes Alex Maskey and all the Sinn Fein workers in South Belfast are dissappointed that they will not be fighting the election after all the hard work they have been doing in resent months but they except this decision and will now be throwing their weight behind their comrades in North Belfast who are trying to get Gerry Kelly elected.As for this being a sectarian move the big difference we see in the orange order bringing together all shades of Unionism to keep out a Nationalist is when these people get into positions of power they act in a sectarian manner by refusing to share power with the Nationalist Representatives as can been seen in council areas they control {eg Newtownabbey, Lisburn etc;} whereas when the SDLP or Sinn Fein hold the power in other areas they administer that power on an equal basis,this can be seen in council areas right across the North.So for me that what makes the decision in F&ST sectarian and and the decision for Sinn Fein to give the SDLP a free run in SB nonsectarian as we know that at least Alistair McDonnell will work for all his constituents on an equal basis

[Ulick]

Has ardmhachaabu run away from another discussion? I wonder why he even bothers to contribute in the first place. 

[Main Street]

I suspect he doesn't/didn't understand the question as he denies he answered the question as it so appears.

The lesson is, don't reply 'yes'  before you understand the question.

[gallsman]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

[trileacman]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

You'll have to forgive him, it's still a relatively new one to the Shinners.

[Ulick]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

I'm a little unclear as to the relevance of this. What has the FST election got to do with democracy?

[trileacman]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

What has the FST election got to do with democracy?

Are you being serious? What does an election have to do with democracy?

[ziggysego]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

What has the FST election got to do with democracy?

Are you being serious? What does an election have to do with democracy?

You can hardly call the actions of the Tories, UUP, DUP, TUV and Orange Order the act of democracy in F/ST.

[Zapatista]

While I disagree with SFs proposal of a pact i fully believe the refusal to accept by the SDLP was on an anyone but a shinner platform.

[gallsman]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

What has the FST election got to do with democracy?

Are you being serious? What does an election have to do with democracy?

You can hardly call the actions of the Tories, UUP, DUP, TUV and Orange Order the act of democracy in F/ST.

I wouldn't but then again, I didn't, did I?

[ziggysego]

Thought it was an inspired move from a SF perspective. Win win you could say.

One one hand, if the stoops had bowed under the pressure and withdrew McKinney, then SF could have been confident of holding FST.
On the other hand, if (as it turned out to be the case) the stoops still refused to withdraw McKinney, it shows up the SDLP's narrow mindedness and the fact that they genuinely would prefer a tory repesenting a mainly nationalist area than a Sinn Fein candidate at any cost.

Just when you think they can stoop no lower...

Ridiculous statement to make.

Do you actually understand the concept of democracy???

What has the FST election got to do with democracy?

Are you being serious? What does an election have to do with democracy?

You can hardly call the actions of the Tories, UUP, DUP, TUV and Orange Order the act of democracy in F/ST.

I wouldn't but then again, I didn't, did I?

I wasn't referring to your comment. trileacman's comment.

[Zapatista]

The day the SDLP did this - http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqlidcwmhsn/
it became clear that opossing SF was their only purpose.

They were willing to sacrafice Devolution of Policing and Justice to Ireland in favour of isolating SF. This for me was the SDLP going beyond anything John Hume might have worked for.