The Battle for Fermanagh and South Tyrone

[glens abu]

Look Zap, no matter how much you deny it, SF accepted the default position of the 6 counties to be in the union with Britain whether sf spindoctors say it or not.

You have nothing to offer this thread or discussion on this topic in general.

Says who?  You?  You are just another armchair republican who refuses to see facts for what they are.

Whats an armchair republican?

His Uncle

[Hardy]

Look Zap, no matter how much you deny it, SF accepted the default position of the 6 counties to be in the union with Britain whether sf spindoctors say it or not.

You have nothing to offer this thread or discussion on this topic in general.

Says who?  You?  You are just another armchair republican who refuses to see facts for what they are.

Whats an armchair republican?

No no no. That's a "Republican" armchair.

[Billys Boots]

Now Hardy, you know full well it's a deckchair.  Are there deckchair republicans?  I think not.

[Hardy]

 

There are Republican low-lifes li-lows, I know that.

Must be time for this to enter the picture:

[Zapatista]

There are Republican low-lifes li-lows, I know that.

Must be time for this to enter the picture:

The arms on that chair were decomissioned.

[ardmhachaabu]

Whats an armchair republican?

I am surprised you never heard the expression before.  The term is used to describe people who talk and argue about republicanism and try to show off to their mates about how big of a republican they are when in reality they have never got off their armchair/barstool/computer chair to do anything for 'the cause'

On reflection, the term ceasefire soldier may describe people such as nally etc.  In case you don't know what that is, that's someone who popped up as a republican after the ceasefire and usually refers to people who never did anything pre-ceasefire.  Armchair republican/ceasefire soldier, it amounts to the same thing really in my view.  Those who talk about fighting and that and have never done a thing to support their convictions

[Zapatista]

Whats an armchair republican?

I am surprised you never heard the expression before.  The term is used to describe people who talk and argue about republicanism and try to show off to their mates about how big of a republican they are when in reality they have never got off their armchair/barstool/computer chair to do anything for 'the cause'

On reflection, the term ceasefire soldier may describe people such as nally etc.  In case you don't know what that is, that's someone who popped up as a republican after the ceasefire and usually refers to people who never did anything pre-ceasefire.  Armchair republican/ceasefire soldier, it amounts to the same thing really in my view.  Those who talk about fighting and that and have never done a thing to support their convictions

Anyone under the age of 35.

[Doogie Browser]

Whats an armchair republican?

I am surprised you never heard the expression before.  The term is used to describe people who talk and argue about republicanism and try to show off to their mates about how big of a republican they are when in reality they have never got off their armchair/barstool/computer chair to do anything for 'the cause'

On reflection, the term ceasefire soldier may describe people such as nally etc.  In case you don't know what that is, that's someone who popped up as a republican after the ceasefire and usually refers to people who never did anything pre-ceasefire.  Armchair republican/ceasefire soldier, it amounts to the same thing really in my view.  Those who talk about fighting and that and have never done a thing to support their convictions

Anyone under the age of 35.

Exactly Zap, can never understand the amount of people in their early-mid 20's involved in dissident groupings.

[reddgnhand]

Whats an armchair republican?

I am surprised you never heard the expression before.  The term is used to describe people who talk and argue about republicanism and try to show off to their mates about how big of a republican they are when in reality they have never got off their armchair/barstool/computer chair to do anything for 'the cause'

On reflection, the term ceasefire soldier may describe people such as nally etc.  In case you don't know what that is, that's someone who popped up as a republican after the ceasefire and usually refers to people who never did anything pre-ceasefire.  Armchair republican/ceasefire soldier, it amounts to the same thing really in my view.  Those who talk about fighting and that and have never done a thing to support their convictions

Oh I've heard the term alright just wasnt sure what was meant by it. You used it to describe Zapista and ceasefire soldier to describe nally. How do you know anything about Zapista or nally? Are you saying that no one can become part of the republican movement unless they took part in any fighting? Are FF ceasefire soldiers?     

[Billys Boots]

I take it back - I'm reliably informed that Bundoran is full of deckchair republicans. 

[gallsman]

I take it back - I'm reliably informed that Bundoran is full of deckchair republicans.

Gweedore too apparently.

[qz]

What I can't square is Sinn Fein don't recognise the Wesminster British seat but take part in the vote. It is like they kind of recognise it and are proud to call their members MPs. I think it should be one or other... abstain totally or go into Westminster. Frank Maguire and Bernadette Devlin went to Westminster although I am not sure what the reaction was to that. Certainly they got enough nationalist-Republican votes to get in. If Sinn Fein decided tomorrow it will go in and take their seats thousands who are against it would suddenly agree with it. People need to stop being sheep and hanging onto every word a party says.
Also is not the 26 counties an artificial state imposed by British rule and they recoginse that government by taking their seat...   just seems very contradictory, but maybe life ain't that black and white. (Just thinking out loud...)

There are many reasons for SF to stand for Westminster & abstain.

A unionist bloc of 15-18 MPs as it would have been in previous decades would be much more powerful lobbying group in today's hung parliament environment. The Sf seats lessen the impact of the unionists.

Expenses, secretarial costs, London accommodation .

I would suspect the MP moniker gives greater access in Westminster for lobbying government decision makers on bread & butter issues, as well as the more strategic united Ireland agenda.

Internationally it also adds gravitas to lobbying foreign government for support.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

I take it back - I'm reliably informed that Bundoran is full of deckchair republicans.

Gweedore too apparently.

Thats right cos the only people who contributed to the war were from Belfast! 

[armaghniac]

The Sf seats lessen the impact of the unionists.

Nonsense. IF SF didn't stand their seats would have won by the SDLP.

[tyrone86]

Maguire just accept it, the people of West Belfast trust Gerry on his performance, as do the people of West Tyrone, Mid Ulster, FST, Newry & Armagh trust their representatives. I'll not go into the other constituancies as it's like rubbing salt into... You can spout the same auld shite that the stoops have been spouting but it won't change the results.
Suck an applejack and move on.

The usual mature response. I was only asking the question. I'm not sure what Gerry has delivered for West Belfast. I have no desire to change the outcome of the democratic outcome - I'm just interested to know the motivation of the WB voters, given what happened in the East. There's no need to be so sensitive.

Ya see, all you were able to suggest was "not voting or spoiling your vote". It's not really going to happen.
In the east, Naomi is "the wee girl from the east who has been on every doorstep" which is a reasonable alternative to Peter Robinson.

You could cut my balls off before I'd even think about giving a vote to that odious wee cnut standing for the SDLP in west Belfast.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8675766.stm