International Rules 2010/2011

Started by Estimator, March 31, 2010, 02:14:23 PM

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Hardy

Quote from: supersarsfields on September 28, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
I would assume it's to help the Ozzies as they wouldn't be used to kicking with the round ball the way our boys would be.

In other words to give them something when they miss what they're shooting for?

rrhf

Can i say this, every test by the time the Ozzies get to grips with the ball they start to win the games.  So if there was a thrid test there would be no competition. 

muppet

Quote from: From the Bunker on September 28, 2010, 01:36:42 PM
I for one will not be watching ths hybrid b**tard game. It is once again gross irresponsibility on the behalf of the GAA to put amateur players in danger of serious injury. Every year we hear that the game will be tidied up. But it continues to be a form of punch bag machoism for the Boys down under. We get feeble excuises from the Aussies like; they insulted my mother/sister, Our hands were kicked as we tried to pick the ball, etc.

To top it off, we usually have a referee from Australia who is more of a spectator than those who paid into this farce, with the most biased of decisions. And then there is our fool of a Referee who trying against all his might to give even decisons. It borders on the comical.

So there will be more; Late tackles, High tackles, (Brave) 3 (Aussie) on 1 (Irish) fights, Hair pulling, Punches, elbow swings etc.

There are Associations with decent rules that cater for Wrestling and Boxing if you are into that sort of thing.

For a man who doesn't watch it you seem to know quite a bit about it.
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supersarsfields

Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on September 28, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
I would assume it's to help the Ozzies as they wouldn't be used to kicking with the round ball the way our boys would be.

In other words to give them something when they miss what they're shooting for?


Giving them leeway yes. I wouldn't expect our lads to be able to play all year round and then change to the oval ball and still be as accurate. And as I've mentioned it doesn't have a large influence on the game either way.

As I've said before they've just got different scoring areas to GAA.

Hardy

And what's the thinking behind the extra set of posts in Australian Rules?

supersarsfields

Dunno Hardy, You could go onto big footy and ask?

Do you agree that the behinds have little influence on an IR game.

From the Bunker

Quote from: muppet on September 28, 2010, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 28, 2010, 01:36:42 PM
I for one will not be watching ths hybrid b**tard game. It is once again gross irresponsibility on the behalf of the GAA to put amateur players in danger of serious injury. Every year we hear that the game will be tidied up. But it continues to be a form of punch bag machoism for the Boys down under. We get feeble excuises from the Aussies like; they insulted my mother/sister, Our hands were kicked as we tried to pick the ball, etc.

To top it off, we usually have a referee from Australia who is more of a spectator than those who paid into this farce, with the most biased of decisions. And then there is our fool of a Referee who trying against all his might to give even decisons. It borders on the comical.

So there will be more; Late tackles, High tackles, (Brave) 3 (Aussie) on 1 (Irish) fights, Hair pulling, Punches, elbow swings etc.

There are Associations with decent rules that cater for Wrestling and Boxing if you are into that sort of thing.

For a man who doesn't watch it you seem to know quite a bit about it.

Never said i did not watch it in the past . I said i will not be watching it in the future.

Hardy

Quote from: supersarsfields on September 28, 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Dunno Hardy, You could go onto big footy and ask?

Do you agree that the behinds have little influence on an IR game.


Yes. I'm just debating the point about whether the behind is a reward for kicking a wide. I submit that I've demonstrated that it is.  :P

supersarsfields

No Hardy you can still kick a wide in IR. and you get Zero for it.

You must also summit that you can miss in GAA and still get rewarded for it then?

(Have to pop out for a hr, I expect a 3 page debate on the above please befor my return!!  ;) )


Hardy

In summary: You can kick a wide in IR and get a point for it. You have to kick it ridiculously wide to fail to score. You can, indeed miss a goal in GAA and get a point instead. But this is not the primary purpose of the crossbar - to provide a consolation for missed goals. On the other hand, the primary and only purpose of the "behind" posts (as you agreed) is to "help the Aussies" - i.e. to give them a score when they miss. QED - this is a game where you get a point for kicking a wide.

seafoid

Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
The scenario you mention, where a player misses a goal and gets a point is rare enough not to constitute a serious comparison.

Recently in gaelic football  I came across the phenomenon of a player completely missing his kick and being awarded a goal !  Just fancy that !

muppet

Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2010, 02:51:26 PM
Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 12:40:14 PM
The scenario you mention, where a player misses a goal and gets a point is rare enough not to constitute a serious comparison.

Recently in gaelic football  I came across the phenomenon of a player completely missing his kick and being awarded a goal !  Just fancy that !

Run for cover!
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J OGorman

Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on September 28, 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Dunno Hardy, You could go onto big footy and ask?

Do you agree that the behinds have little influence on an IR game.


Yes. I'm just debating the point about whether the behind is a reward for kicking a wide. I submit that I've demonstrated that it is.  :P

much the same way a footballer goes for a goal, blasts it over the bar and gets a reward ie a point

tyssam5

Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on September 28, 2010, 02:27:18 PM
Dunno Hardy, You could go onto big footy and ask?

Do you agree that the behinds have little influence on an IR game.


Yes. I'm just debating the point about whether the behind is a reward for kicking a wide. I submit that I've demonstrated that it is.  :P

The behind means you don't get draws (3rd ever I think in AR final at weekend) and should somewhat reward a teams amount of possession in a game even if they are less than accurate.

Rossfan

Quote from: Hardy on September 28, 2010, 02:25:15 PM
And what's the thinking behind the extra set of posts in Australian Rules?

The early GAA had a soccer type  goal and two side posts.
The whole lot was eventually amalgamated to form the present H shape.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.