International Rules 2010/2011

[redandblackareback]

quick question which seems to have been overlooked... how the fcuk did Anthony Tohill get appointed Ireland manager...?
whats his previous in management or is he just another one of these lap dogs like Burns et al who get the nice wee cosy numbers because the gaa powers that be shout jump and they respond how high!!!   

[INDIANA]

how stupid is a game where you get a point for kicking it wide. Find it hilarious how this is considered a skilled game.

[supersarsfields]

You don't get a point for kicking a wide.

That's like someone who plays soccer asking why do you get a point for missing the goals in Gaelic. It's just got different scoring areas to Gaelic. 

[heffo]

Is Bernard Brogan still in the squad? Could pick a serious forward line from players mentioned - Cavanagh O'Sullivan  Clarke
Coulter     Donaghy  Brogan

He wasn't at the trial on Friday as he was playing Dublin SFC over the weekend - I'd imagine he'll be in the final panel..

[timmy47]

Does anybody know where the squad is training this weekend or where I could find out?

[J OGorman]

how stupid is a game where you get a point for kicking it wide. Find it hilarious how this is considered a skilled game.

how stupid a game gaelic football is where you get a score for blasting it over the crossbar

[Hardy]

You don't get a point for kicking a wide.

That's like someone who plays soccer asking why do you get a point for missing the goals in Gaelic. It's just got different scoring areas to Gaelic. 

how stupid a game gaelic football is where you get a score for blasting it over the crossbar

So they're actually intending to score one point instead of three when they score those "behinds", the same as a gaelic player is going for a point, not a goal when he shoots from 50 yards? I never realised that. It seems a stupid strategy, though, as it would surely be as easy to go for the three. (That way, if you miss, you still have a good chance of scoring one for missing). I think I'll call Anthony Tohill.

[supersarsfields]

You don't get a point for kicking a wide.

That's like someone who plays soccer asking why do you get a point for missing the goals in Gaelic. It's just got different scoring areas to Gaelic. 

how stupid a game gaelic football is where you get a score for blasting it over the crossbar

So they're actually intending to score one point instead of three when they score those "behinds", the same as a gaelic player is going for a point, not a goal when he shoots from 50 yards? I never realised that. It seems a stupid strategy, though, as it would surely be as easy to go for the three. (That way, if you miss, you still have a good chance of scoring one for missing). I think I'll call Anthony Tohill.

Don't know what your point is Hardy. Are you trying to argue you get a point for a wide? Because you don't.

You get a point for a behind. Your argument is like a footballer going through on goal and shooting for a goal, but blasting it over the bar. Should he get the point taken of him?

[Hardy]

My point is that nobody in AR/IR actually shoots for the one point score. They shoot for the three and if they miss they get a consolation prize of one point for missing - i.e. kicking it wide. So the "behind" posts serve no other purpose than to compensate for missing the main score. In no way can that be compared to gaelic football, where the crossbar doesn't exist to provide a consolation score for missed goals. The huge majority of points scored in gaelic are actually from shots intended to score a point. Point scoring is one of the top skills of gaelic football. It's effectively the major objective of the game. There's no consolation prize for missing. The scenario you mention, where a player misses a goal and gets a point is rare enough not to constitute a serious comparison.

[supersarsfields]

My point is that nobody in AR/IR actually shoots for the one point score. They shoot for the three and if they miss they get a consolation prize of one point for missing - i.e. kicking it wide. So the "behind" posts serve no other purpose than to compensate for missing the main score. In no way can that be compared to gaelic football, where the crossbar doesn't exist to provide a consolation score for missed goals. The huge majority of points scored in gaelic are actually from shots intended to score a point. Point scoring is one of the top skills of gaelic football. It's effectively the major objective of the game. There's no consolation prize for missing. The scenario you mention, where a player misses a goal and gets a point is rare enough not to constitute a serious comparison.

The behinds in a IR game don't make a major difference either. It's the overs and the goals that obviously make a larger impact on the way a game pans out and decides the winners. My point still stands, you can't give out about behinds in IR when the senario I mentioned above occurs in gaelic. You are still getting a bonus for "missing" the target you were going for. Fair enough it'll happen more often in IR but again due to the value of a behind it's not a major difference.
I know your not a big fan of IR ( and I can understand that) but I just don't see much sense in this argument.

[From the Bunker]

I for one will not be watching ths hybrid bastard game. It is once again gross irresponsibility on the behalf of the GAA to put amateur players in danger of serious injury. Every year we hear that the game will be tidied up. But it continues to be a form of punch bag machoism for the Boys down under. We get feeble excuises from the Aussies like; they insulted my mother/sister, Our hands were kicked as we tried to pick the ball, etc.

To top it off, we usually have a referee from Australia who is more of a spectator than those who paid into this farce, with the most biased of decisions. And then there is our fool of a Referee who trying against all his might to give even decisons. It borders on the comical.

So there will be more; Late tackles, High tackles, (Brave) 3 (Aussie) on 1 (Irish) fights, Hair pulling, Punches, elbow swings etc.

There are Associations with decent rules that cater for Wrestling and Boxing if you are into that sort of thing.

[rrhf]

Why dont they let the ozzies bounce the ball, gaa players bounce or solo it, disallow the wrestle/ tackle and remove the extra posts and it would be a reasonable game, a bit like gaelic but dumbed down to be playable by thugs from Australia.  We could call it "Gaelic for beginners" Ill watch it but Im with Mickey Harte on this one,  It has no value for the GAA but it allows the current top table professionals to have a big holiday and our gate receipts continue to rise in a recession.     

[mountainboii]

So there will be more; Late tackles, High tackles, (Brave) 3 (Aussie) on 1 (Irish) fights, Hair pulling, Punches, elbow swings etc.

Aye, I can't f**king wait!

[Hardy]

My point is that nobody in AR/IR actually shoots for the one point score. They shoot for the three and if they miss they get a consolation prize of one point for missing - i.e. kicking it wide. So the "behind" posts serve no other purpose than to compensate for missing the main score. In no way can that be compared to gaelic football, where the crossbar doesn't exist to provide a consolation score for missed goals. The huge majority of points scored in gaelic are actually from shots intended to score a point. Point scoring is one of the top skills of gaelic football. It's effectively the major objective of the game. There's no consolation prize for missing. The scenario you mention, where a player misses a goal and gets a point is rare enough not to constitute a serious comparison.

The behinds in a IR game don't make a major difference either. It's the overs and the goals that obviously make a larger impact on the way a game pans out and decides the winners. My point still stands, you can't give out about behinds in IR when the senario I mentioned above occurs in gaelic. You are still getting a bonus for "missing" the target you were going for. Fair enough it'll happen more often in IR but again due to the value of a behind it's not a major difference.
I know your not a big fan of IR ( and I can understand that) but I just don't see much sense in this argument.

So what's the thinking behind (sorry) providing the extra set of posts?

[supersarsfields]

I would assume it's to help the Ozzies as they wouldn't be used to kicking with the round ball the way our boys would be.
I don't think the second posts improve the game in any way and I'd have no issue with them being removed. That said I also don't think it has a big impact on the game or the outcome of the games. And to be honest it's not that much of a help for the Ozzies as their kicking is as good as ours in the most.