International Rules 2010/2011

[Jinxy]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

[stephenite]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

[Jinxy]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

If they went on the beer the night before a county final would you be annoyed?
Your attitude seems to be that the clubs aren't paying them so they've no right to expect any sort of commitment or loyalty from them.
I'm sensing a bit of anger here so maybe you had a run-in with someone at your club but the attitude you're espousing is completely at odds with the GAA ethos.

[stephenite]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

If they went on the beer the night before a county final would you be annoyed?
Your attitude seems to be that the clubs aren't paying them so they've no right to expect any sort of commitment or loyalty from them.
I'm sensing a bit of anger here so maybe you had a run-in with someone at your club but the attitude you're espousing is completely at odds with the GAA ethos.

Going on the beer is not the same thing as playing for your country - grow up.

No runs ins, but yeah - I think it's disgraceful that you'll come on here and name 2 players and basically question their commitment to their clubs because they wanted to play for their country as well, I understand you don't like the IR but to question the motivations and commitment of two amateur players and use that as a stick to beat the IR experiment is a really cheap shot and makes me kind of angry - Leighton Glynn is playing 3 games this weekend, I think he should be highlighted, feted and praised from everywhere possible for showing what the GAA ethos is about, and not the subject of scurrilous mutterings from someone on the Internet who doesn't like the game he's playing.

[ONeill]

Stephenite, you're being a wee bit unreasonably sensationalist.

What Jinxy said, and I feckin hate Meath, is that two players who played IR last night are bound to have been affected by it today. Jaysus of course they would. It was an international game less than half a day before another big game.

[stephenite]

Stephenite, you're being a wee bit unreasonably sensationalist.

Noted.

He also suggested that their mindsets need to change - I think that's unfair.

As someone who has been consistent in his hatred for Intl rules I think it's unreasonable that he drags players committment to their clubs into the discussion to suit his argument.

[Jinxy]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

If they went on the beer the night before a county final would you be annoyed?
Your attitude seems to be that the clubs aren't paying them so they've no right to expect any sort of commitment or loyalty from them.
I'm sensing a bit of anger here so maybe you had a run-in with someone at your club but the attitude you're espousing is completely at odds with the GAA ethos.

Going on the beer is not the same thing as playing for your country - grow up.

No runs ins, but yeah - I think it's disgraceful that you'll come on here and name 2 players and basically question their commitment to their clubs because they wanted to play for their country as well, I understand you don't like the IR but to question the motivations and commitment of two amateur players and use that as a stick to beat the IR experiment is a really cheap shot and makes me kind of angry - Leighton Glynn is playing 3 games this weekend, I think he should be highlighted, feted and praised from everywhere possible for showing what the GAA ethos is about, and not the subject of scurrilous mutterings from someone on the Internet who doesn't like the game he's playing.

But you said what they do in their spare time is none of our business?

[Jinxy]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

If they went on the beer the night before a county final would you be annoyed?
Your attitude seems to be that the clubs aren't paying them so they've no right to expect any sort of commitment or loyalty from them.
I'm sensing a bit of anger here so maybe you had a run-in with someone at your club but the attitude you're espousing is completely at odds with the GAA ethos.

Going on the beer is not the same thing as playing for your country - grow up.

No runs ins, but yeah - I think it's disgraceful that you'll come on here and name 2 players and basically question their commitment to their clubs because they wanted to play for their country as well, I understand you don't like the IR but to question the motivations and commitment of two amateur players and use that as a stick to beat the IR experiment is a really cheap shot and makes me kind of angry - Leighton Glynn is playing 3 games this weekend, I think he should be highlighted, feted and praised from everywhere possible for showing what the GAA ethos is about, and not the subject of scurrilous mutterings from someone on the Internet who doesn't like the game he's playing.

But you said what they do in their spare time is none of our business, did you not?

[stephenite]

Were you on the beer all day. 
What makes you think I'm in favour of pay for play?

No.

You make a comment that more or less suggests that certain individuals are not committed to their clubs, unless these players are contracted to their club or counties you've no right to suggest such a thing. What they do in their spare time is none of your business.

When the GPA debate os ongoing you'll hear everyone that is against this organisation saying that playing our games is essentially a pastime and if they don't like the way the association is run you should find another pastime.

You've named certain players whose mindsets you feel need to be changed, players who are not paid by anyone to line out for their club. Therefore is it not resonable to assume you'd advocate paying these players in order to facilitate this?

If they went on the beer the night before a county final would you be annoyed?
Your attitude seems to be that the clubs aren't paying them so they've no right to expect any sort of commitment or loyalty from them.
I'm sensing a bit of anger here so maybe you had a run-in with someone at your club but the attitude you're espousing is completely at odds with the GAA ethos.

Going on the beer is not the same thing as playing for your country - grow up.

No runs ins, but yeah - I think it's disgraceful that you'll come on here and name 2 players and basically question their commitment to their clubs because they wanted to play for their country as well, I understand you don't like the IR but to question the motivations and commitment of two amateur players and use that as a stick to beat the IR experiment is a really cheap shot and makes me kind of angry - Leighton Glynn is playing 3 games this weekend, I think he should be highlighted, feted and praised from everywhere possible for showing what the GAA ethos is about, and not the subject of scurrilous mutterings from someone on the Internet who doesn't like the game he's playing.

But you said what they do in their spare time is none of our business, did you not?

Regardless, it's not a like for like. If someone was to go on the beer it'd be there loss in my view and we'd be better off without them.

I wouln't be annoyed if they were playing a different sport, particularly if that sport was providing them their wage.

[INDIANA]

Rathvilly and Rathnew both lost today.
Couldn't have helped that Brendan Murphy and Leighton Glynn were playing in Limerick last night.
We need to get back to a club and county mentality.
Not county and country.

They're amateur players who can play what they want and when they want to play it. Stop using the IR as an excuse for what mentality we meed to get back to - it has nothing to do with anything.

So if a Ballina player played a game of rugby the day before a county final you'd have no problem with it?
Give over would you.

You're like a whining bitch that just won't shut her mouth.

I can only assume that you're in favour of pay for play; but you've some f**king neck on ya dictating to amateur players what games they can and cannot play and questioning it on an Internet discussion forum.

For the record Ballina Stephenites had to ask the IRFU for premission to play Ger Brady in a County final against Crossmolina in 2000, he was contracted as a full time rugby player and had to sign a release for this game. Liam McHale missed a Connacht Club final in 1985 because he was getting paid to play a basketball game the same day. I've no problems with either of these.

Strange statement from someone who said they would prefer to win a north mayo league title over the IR.

What's my personal preference over what amateur title I'd rather have won got to do with anything?

Logic would dictate that someone who rates a county league title over an international rules series win would by the same token prefer to see players with ntheir clubs rather then country in the case of a clash.
dont take this the wrong way but youre coming across you're completely illogical or totally hypocritical. Thats the way it comes across to me. Ive consistently said this should never interfere with club concerns and I wouldnt be happy with any vincents players going with the same course of action. The GAA begins and ends with your club and I cant imagine club people being happy with this interfereing with club fixtures .

[stephenite]

Rathvilly and Rathnew both lost today.
Couldn't have helped that Brendan Murphy and Leighton Glynn were playing in Limerick last night.
We need to get back to a club and county mentality.
Not county and country.

They're amateur players who can play what they want and when they want to play it. Stop using the IR as an excuse for what mentality we meed to get back to - it has nothing to do with anything.

So if a Ballina player played a game of rugby the day before a county final you'd have no problem with it?
Give over would you.

You're like a whining bitch that just won't shut her mouth.

I can only assume that you're in favour of pay for play; but you've some f**king neck on ya dictating to amateur players what games they can and cannot play and questioning it on an Internet discussion forum.

For the record Ballina Stephenites had to ask the IRFU for premission to play Ger Brady in a County final against Crossmolina in 2000, he was contracted as a full time rugby player and had to sign a release for this game. Liam McHale missed a Connacht Club final in 1985 because he was getting paid to play a basketball game the same day. I've no problems with either of these.

Strange statement from someone who said they would prefer to win a north mayo league title over the IR.

What's my personal preference over what amateur title I'd rather have won got to do with anything?

Logic would dictate that someone who rates a county league title over an international rules series win would by the same token prefer to see players with ntheir clubs rather then country in the case of a clash.
dont take this the wrong way but youre coming across you're completely illogical or totally hypocritical. Thats the way it comes across to me. Ive consistently said this should never interfere with club concerns and I wouldnt be happy with any vincents players going with the same course of action. The GAA begins and ends with your club and I cant imagine club people being happy with this interfereing with club fixtures .

The comment was made off the cuff, winning a North Mayo winter league was about the level that my skills would allow, I would have more chance of going to the moon than representing Ireland at Intl rules.

On the substantive point - what I would prefer to see happening with club players is not always in line with the actual club players themselves want, and as amateurs that has to be respected

If one of the Vincents players decided to play in this instead of a county final it is quite frankly his own business and not yours, you can be pissed off but until such time as he is a contracted player it's his call.

If that's hypcrotical or illogical so be it - it's how I see it.

[INDIANA]

Its a sad day when they do so in my view. If a player doesnt feel some level of responsibility towards their club over this then we're really screwed.

I'll be honest and say any vincents player would never be forgiven for it. That i can guarantee. But its probably different elsewhere.

[Jinxy]

Most team-mates would take a dim view of someone putting themselves first and diminishing the clubs chances of winning a county title.
The GAA is supposed to be about collective achievement.
Comments about contracts etc. are a bit depressing and I really hope that's not the way we're going.

[muppet]

A player who emigrates for economic reasons is lamented.

A player who doesn't play for wild oats or alcoholic reasons is tolerated.

A man who plays for Ireland and then for his club the next day is somehow a lesser man?

I'm with Stephenite on this, God forbid that our opinion gets us shot.

[HeaveHo]

The mark doesn't slow the game down - the Irish failure to "play on" from the mark slowed their game down. If you watch enough AFL you will note that in 80% of cases the player taking the mark either immediately disposes of the ball by hand or foot or runs off the mark. If you take a mark in either AFL or IR and then stop to consider your options then the game will slow down.