Paul Galvin

Started by sammymaguire, January 28, 2010, 10:24:15 AM

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sandwiches_in_the_boot

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Incident for the young lad, incident for Galvin, incident for the school, that might even rattle the teeth of a number of the chattering classes in the locality. But a non-event of a national story.

Might be a non-story for the average person, but Galvin has one of the highest profiles for the national sport, paid or not. The smallest story would make papers, never mind the 'stupidity connection' with the obvious onfield incident. Probably wouldn't make the local papers, but indo journalists would hardly feel any embarassment writing this. I'm surprised people are so surprised.

Still think it's a bit below the belt.
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
H. L. Mencken

lynchbhoy

Quote from: dublinfella on January 28, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
So what you are saying is that when the media hype something up about the GAA its wrong and a disgrace, when they do it about soccer, its actually all true.

O-Kay. Do you not think thats a slightly hypocritical stance?

But to the other point, if you are seriously trying to say that there aren't intercounty players out there who treat women as objects, well then you are seriously talking through your swiss. Go to Coppers the night after the Dubs crash out of Sam.

You have never heard of a prominent pair of GAA playing brothers, for example, stick someone in hospital and have the media basically hush it up? No well known hurler who needed anger management treatment after maiming someone? Get real man. The Galvin story is unusual precisely because we rarely read about GAA players who commit sin off the park.
comprehension is not one of your strong points now is it ...
neither is honesty or realism it seems !

No trumped up story is fair in the papers, from any sporting code, or business or any other field.
My point is that soccer seems to have a lot more problems than GAA (or any other sport) because lets face it, the supporters are usually of the lower social classes and all the baggage they bring.
while there are plenty of people, sports people and rugby and GAA players that undoubtedly commit crime (penalty points while driving, to assault or taking drugs etc) these are 'usual social stats' but soccer seems to have worse instances.
For example - soccer fans fighting. This modern era faction fighting is almost soley the preserve of soccer. I dont recall GAA supporters groups regularly or irregulalrly meeting up to scrap !

You can continue to argue individual instances,but they dont and never will equate to the reality  - and that is that soccer has more social/criminal /illegal instances than GAA ever has (so far).
soccer in England is even worse... is that due to players having even more money ?
If thats the case, then I hope GAA sports never go pro !!

Hope you can understand all that !
..........

omagh_gael

According to an article in the irish news the lads family are going to sue the school, family member commented that "...the teenager was just about ok but had not returned to school since the incident on monday."

There's me thinking Kerry was full of hardy bucks!

INDIANA

Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on January 29, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Incident for the young lad, incident for Galvin, incident for the school, that might even rattle the teeth of a number of the chattering classes in the locality. But a non-event of a national story.

Might be a non-story for the average person, but Galvin has one of the highest profiles for the national sport, paid or not. The smallest story would make papers, never mind the 'stupidity connection' with the obvious onfield incident. Probably wouldn't make the local papers, but indo journalists would hardly feel any embarassment writing this. I'm surprised people are so surprised.

Still think it's a bit below the belt.
Don't agree i think nobody cares really to be honest.

longrunsthefox

Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on January 29, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Incident for the young lad, incident for Galvin, incident for the school, that might even rattle the teeth of a number of the chattering classes in the locality. But a non-event of a national story.

Might be a non-story for the average person, but Galvin has one of the highest profiles for the national sport, paid or not. The smallest story would make papers, never mind the 'stupidity connection' with the obvious onfield incident. Probably wouldn't make the local papers, but indo journalists would hardly feel any embarassment writing this. I'm surprised people are so surprised.

Still think it's a bit below the belt.
Don't agree i think nobody cares really to be honest.
A teacher splits a pupil with a duster is not a story?? Come on...  See school is taking no action on Galvin... if  a student did it to another student would they take no action either? I doubt it. If it was my cub I'd sue him.

sandwiches_in_the_boot

Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on January 29, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Incident for the young lad, incident for Galvin, incident for the school, that might even rattle the teeth of a number of the chattering classes in the locality. But a non-event of a national story.

Might be a non-story for the average person, but Galvin has one of the highest profiles for the national sport, paid or not. The smallest story would make papers, never mind the 'stupidity connection' with the obvious onfield incident. Probably wouldn't make the local papers, but indo journalists would hardly feel any embarassment writing this. I'm surprised people are so surprised.

Still think it's a bit below the belt.
Don't agree i think nobody cares really to be honest.

Yeah... 5 pages of discussion later...
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
H. L. Mencken

Hardy

Where did this usage of "split" come from?

BennyHarp

Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 29, 2010, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on January 29, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
Quote from: sandwiches_in_the_boot on January 29, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2010, 01:05:26 AM
Incident for the young lad, incident for Galvin, incident for the school, that might even rattle the teeth of a number of the chattering classes in the locality. But a non-event of a national story.

Might be a non-story for the average person, but Galvin has one of the highest profiles for the national sport, paid or not. The smallest story would make papers, never mind the 'stupidity connection' with the obvious onfield incident. Probably wouldn't make the local papers, but indo journalists would hardly feel any embarassment writing this. I'm surprised people are so surprised.

Still think it's a bit below the belt.
Don't agree i think nobody cares really to be honest.
A teacher splits a pupil with a duster is not a story?? Come on...  See school is taking no action on Galvin... if  a student did it to another student would they take no action either? I doubt it. If it was my cub I'd sue him.

If the school is taking no action then its a nothing incident - schools HAVE to take action on these things if there is any indication that something wrong happened! The days of covering these things up are long gone! Believe me, people are very nieve if they think the poor students parents wouldnt be sueing unless he was seriously hurt - people sue these days if their kid is looked at wrongly!

If this was an average teacher in an average school this story would not even be mentioned as these sort of incidents happen every day across the country where a kid accuses a teacher of wrong doing! Most teachers can let it blow over and no harm done but its grossly unfair that Galvin is hauled across the coals for the this and his name further tarnished by people on here who know nothing about the incident - just because he chooses to play an amateur sport! Would this be in the paper or discussed here if it was a Tyrone hurler or a Kilkenny footballer? How well known do you need to be before your private life is fair game? A well known club player? A well known supporter?
That was never a square ball!!

dublinfella

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 29, 2010, 09:19:21 AM

comprehension is not one of your strong points now is it ...
neither is honesty or realism it seems !

No trumped up story is fair in the papers, from any sporting code, or business or any other field.
My point is that soccer seems to have a lot more problems than GAA (or any other sport) because lets face it, the supporters are usually of the lower social classes and all the baggage they bring.
while there are plenty of people, sports people and rugby and GAA players that undoubtedly commit crime (penalty points while driving, to assault or taking drugs etc) these are 'usual social stats' but soccer seems to have worse instances.
For example - soccer fans fighting. This modern era faction fighting is almost soley the preserve of soccer. I dont recall GAA supporters groups regularly or irregulalrly meeting up to scrap !

You can continue to argue individual instances,but they dont and never will equate to the reality  - and that is that soccer has more social/criminal /illegal instances than GAA ever has (so far).
soccer in England is even worse... is that due to players having even more money ?
If thats the case, then I hope GAA sports never go pro !!

Hope you can understand all that !

So there has never been a schmozzle involving GAA fans? I don't ever recall fans attacking players at soccer.

They have their problems, we have ours. This idea of social class is laughable, even the egg chasers have dropped that inane narrative.

But the core point remains, you are happy to lap up the garbage written in the tabloids about soccer as fact, but dismiss negative GAA stories as a conspiracy. Thats rank hypocricy.

longrunsthefox

Quote from: Hardy on January 29, 2010, 12:18:50 PM
Where did this usage of "split" come from?

Has been in several national papers and Irish News today

Main Street

The examiner reports
http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/school-quiet-on-galvin-duster-incident-110769.html#ixzz0e0brAFZ0

Description of the "split"

The student sustained a hairline cut on his forehead for which he was treated by a local doctor.


'The friend claimed the boy did nothing to provoke the incident and that he was bending down to put a book in his bag when he was hit by the wooden duster.'

;D

Sounds primitive, I´d have thought that they'd have upgraded to using the White Board ages ago.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: dublinfella on January 29, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 29, 2010, 09:19:21 AM

comprehension is not one of your strong points now is it ...
neither is honesty or realism it seems !

No trumped up story is fair in the papers, from any sporting code, or business or any other field.
My point is that soccer seems to have a lot more problems than GAA (or any other sport) because lets face it, the supporters are usually of the lower social classes and all the baggage they bring.
while there are plenty of people, sports people and rugby and GAA players that undoubtedly commit crime (penalty points while driving, to assault or taking drugs etc) these are 'usual social stats' but soccer seems to have worse instances.
For example - soccer fans fighting. This modern era faction fighting is almost soley the preserve of soccer. I dont recall GAA supporters groups regularly or irregulalrly meeting up to scrap !

You can continue to argue individual instances,but they dont and never will equate to the reality  - and that is that soccer has more social/criminal /illegal instances than GAA ever has (so far).
soccer in England is even worse... is that due to players having even more money ?
If thats the case, then I hope GAA sports never go pro !!

Hope you can understand all that !

So there has never been a schmozzle involving GAA fans? I don't ever recall fans attacking players at soccer.

They have their problems, we have ours. This idea of social class is laughable, even the egg chasers have dropped that inane narrative.

But the core point remains, you are happy to lap up the garbage written in the tabloids about soccer as fact, but dismiss negative GAA stories as a conspiracy. Thats rank hypocricy.
I saw the aftermath of phibsboro - so cant doubt the papers there...
no hypocricy at all.
I think you are somewhat deluded if you ignore the basic realities and facts..
..........

thewanderer

ONCE A THUG ALWAYS A THUG. He should receive his proper punishment and take it like a man not like he did with his gaa suspension. A complete non role model for young kids. >:(

pintsofguinness

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The student's family, who are refusing to comment on the incident, has put the matter in the hands of a Killarney solicitor.

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/school-quiet-on-galvin-duster-incident-110769.html#ixzz0e1yKXA3L


See this is what happens when you can't keep your temper in check. 

Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

muppet

Quote from: Hardy on January 29, 2010, 12:18:50 PM
Where did this usage of "split" come from?

Ask Mick Lyons.
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