Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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trileacman

Quote from:  link=msg=2304906 date=1730719069The reporting of this on BBC this morning was to say the least biased. This man is entitled to his good name unless proven otherwise. His lawyers seem to be sure of their ground. SF can not control the actions of un named advisors with an axe to grind.

How was it biased? Did they not just report the statement SF put out?

You'll be telling us that Jeffrey Robinson is entitled to his good name next.
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Applesisapples

Quote from: trileacman on November 04, 2024, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from:  link=msg=2304906 date=1730719069The reporting of this on BBC this morning was to say the least biased. This man is entitled to his good name unless proven otherwise. His lawyers seem to be sure of their ground. SF can not control the actions of un named advisors with an axe to grind.

How was it biased? Did they not just report the statement SF put out?

You'll be telling us that Jeffrey Robinson is entitled to his good name next.
I won't as I do not know a Jeffrey Robinson, but I'm sure he would say he is. The report was presented in a way that portrayed this as another SF scandal as if the party had done something wrong. Anyone of us can have our correspondence selectively edited. I would rather wait until Magee is actually proven to have transgressed. PSNI have said no crime was committed but this was brushed over. There has not been the same level of scrutiny of other parties with convicted former members.

Saffrongael

Quote from: Applesisapples on November 04, 2024, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 04, 2024, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from:  link=msg=2304906 date=1730719069The reporting of this on BBC this morning was to say the least biased. This man is entitled to his good name unless proven otherwise. His lawyers seem to be sure of their ground. SF can not control the actions of un named advisors with an axe to grind.

How was it biased? Did they not just report the statement SF put out?

You'll be telling us that Jeffrey Robinson is entitled to his good name next.
I won't as I do not know a Jeffrey Robinson, but I'm sure he would say he is. The report was presented in a way that portrayed this as another SF scandal as if the party had done something wrong. Anyone of us can have our correspondence selectively edited. I would rather wait until Magee is actually proven to have transgressed. PSNI have said no crime was committed but this was brushed over. There has not been the same level of scrutiny of other parties with convicted former members.

All I have seen reported in the bbc is that Sinn Fein have suspended him, he rejects the allegations and then the statement from Kevin Winters.

As for the bit about no crime being committed being "brushed over", what more can they say? They stated a fact.

Me or you are well able to lose our job without committing a crime, surely you understand this ?
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Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

AustinPowers

Ah well, at least Michelle   didn't wear a poppy

Pub Bore

O'Neill was invited to the Remembrance Service in Enniskillen as a matter of protocol, as First Minister. However it was also made clear she wasn't welcome.

Wildweasel74

#10221
In relation to the service. Why now? Why not do it years ago? Sinn Fein got a habit of telling people not to do certain things over the yrs, but suddenly when they go do it. It's all OK. but don't say Why it's not ok up to that point.

Kidder81

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 10, 2024, 10:23:59 PMIn relation to the service. Why now? Why not do it years ago? Sinn Fein got a habit of telling people not to do certain things over the yrs, but suddenly when they go it. It's all OK but don't say Why it's not ok up to that point.

Southern votes I'm guessing

weareros

Decent LucidTalk poll for Sinn Fein:

SF 29% (-1 from August)
DUP 19% (+1)
Alliance 13% (-2)
TUV 11% (+2)
SDLP 10% (+2)
UUP 10% (-2)
People Before Profit 2% (+1)
Greens 2% (-)
Aontú 1% (-)
Independents & others 3% (-1)

However Michele O'Neill and Mary Lou have seen their leadership ratings fall, with Claire Hanna now most popular leader in North.

"The new SDLP leader scored positively with 54% of voters — up 15 points from Colum Eastwood's rating — while Ms O'Neill's score has fallen 12 points to 41% and Sinn Fein president Mary Lou McDonald's is down eight points to 31%."

Source: BelTel/LucidTalk

armaghniac

Probably the new SDLP leader getting a percent or two including from Alliance. But what is going on in unionism, 3% increase in extremism?
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Saffrongael

What's even the point of that poll, no elections in the 6 counties for years
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Rossfan

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 10, 2024, 10:23:59 PMIn relation to the service. Why now? .
They hadn't a First Minister before.
Signalling to Unionists how things will be after Irish re unification?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Pub Bore

Quote from: weareros on November 10, 2024, 10:47:20 PMDecent LucidTalk poll for Sinn Fein:

SF 29% (-1 from August)
DUP 19% (+1)
Alliance 13% (-2)
TUV 11% (+2)
SDLP 10% (+2)
UUP 10% (-2)
People Before Profit 2% (+1)
Greens 2% (-)
Aontú 1% (-)
Independents & others 3% (-1)

However Michele O'Neill and Mary Lou have seen their leadership ratings fall, with Claire Hanna now most popular leader in North.

"The new SDLP leader scored positively with 54% of voters — up 15 points from Colum Eastwood's rating — while Ms O'Neill's score has fallen 12 points to 41% and Sinn Fein president Mary Lou McDonald's is down eight points to 31%."

Source: BelTel/LucidTalk

Shinners will be delighted with 29%.  Individual approval ratings don't really turn into votes when push comes to shove in an election.

LC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygyw1lk9eo#

Friday is always a good day to slip things this out.

Emma P no doubt prepped in advance, DUP were always going to play ball plus hardly in a position to throw stones in their own glass house with the a certain court case coming down the tracks.

Wildweasel74

#10229
She could be a good ad for a future spec savers advert!