Is this letter not libellous?

Started by T Fearon, December 27, 2009, 09:01:48 PM

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pintsofguinness

Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2010, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
I have good time for Adams on most things but can't understand why he denies he was in the IRA. Like Martin McGuinness, Gerry Kelly and others admitted they were. Is he ashamed of it or what? and is an insult to people's intelligance.
because he would have been convicted of it, mcguinness and kelly had already served time for IRA activities, Adams has never. 
The man is not going to admit to being a member of an illegal organisation ffs.

Now you're trying to insult our intelligance.
How so?
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

longrunsthefox

Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2010, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
I have good time for Adams on most things but can't understand why he denies he was in the IRA. Like Martin McGuinness, Gerry Kelly and others admitted they were. Is he ashamed of it or what? and is an insult to people's intelligance.
because he would have been convicted of it, mcguinness and kelly had already served time for IRA activities, Adams has never. 
The man is not going to admit to being a member of an illegal organisation ffs.

Now you're trying to insult our intelligance.
How so?

I don't believe Gerry Adams would have been convicted of membership in the last year or two if he said he had been in the IRA.
To deny he was not and the photo of him in the beret and taken to talk to the Brits in 1972 as an IRA leader... ffs. He should therefore make 'no comment' and say he doesn't wish to say what groups he was or was not involved in when asked. To say he was not in the IRA when it looks to all appearances he was is an insult to peoples intelligence. Like wat the f** is he doing parading with a beret on! also I'm sure many would then wonder what else is he blatently lying about.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2010, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
I have good time for Adams on most things but can't understand why he denies he was in the IRA. Like Martin McGuinness, Gerry Kelly and others admitted they were. Is he ashamed of it or what? and is an insult to people's intelligance.
because he would have been convicted of it, mcguinness and kelly had already served time for IRA activities, Adams has never. 
The man is not going to admit to being a member of an illegal organisation ffs.

Now you're trying to insult our intelligance.
How so?

I don't believe Gerry Adams would have been convicted of membership in the last year or two if he said he had been in the IRA.
To deny he was not and the photo of him in the beret and taken to talk to the Brits in 1972 as an IRA leader... ffs. He should therefore make 'no comment' and say he doesn't wish to say what groups he was or was not involved in when asked. To say he was not in the IRA when it looks to all appearances he was is an insult to peoples intelligence. Like wat the f** is he doing parading with a beret on! also I'm sure many would then wonder what else is he blatently lying about.
I wouldn't incriminate myself on the chance that I may not be prosecuted.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

longrunsthefox

Well then he should just say... no comment to make on it.

orangeman

These berets are a great job.


Looks like they love dressing up in them :


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8218022.stm

Trevor Hill

Quote from: orangeman on January 03, 2010, 01:06:25 AM
These berets are a great job.


Looks like they love dressing up in them :

They sure do.

lynchbhoy

Adams is damned if he does reply (or go to court) and damned if he doesnt
obv there are plenty of people who have been taken in by the propaganda and also now believe that Adams was an active member of the IRA when all really know he hadnt the bottle for it - therefore the rumours are just idle gossip.
Do those pics of paisley in the beret and even up a mountain with a gun in his hand ever have accusations of him being in the uvf/uda/lvf etc etc no ....quelle surprise !!
Adams would have loved to be able to say he was an active IRA man and as he wasnt is -
he is watched like a hawk by the hawks - even still.
The naive comments that he should and could go to court over this are a laugh and show the stupidity/lack of knowledge of the originators of these.

as for it being up to prove to Adams that he wasnt in the IRA and therefore this is libellous - dont know how this coul dbe done apart from ex-IRA members (aforementioned McGuinness and maybe Kelly) testifying that he wasnt.
Then it is up to the paper to prove otherwise - and they wont be able to.

but as I said, this will never happen as it would be a PR disaster and a waste of time.
Dont expect decency or truth from the likes of that sectarian paper !!
..........

Hardy

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
Dont expect decency or truth from the likes of that sectarian paper !!

Just be fair about the whole thing, I won't expect them from Gerry Adams either.

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Hardy on January 03, 2010, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
Dont expect decency or truth from the likes of that sectarian paper !!

Just be fair about the whole thing, I won't expect them from Gerry Adams either.
why  -what did he say or do to merit your last post?
..........

Maguire01

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
obv there are plenty of people who have been taken in by the propaganda and also now believe that Adams was an active member of the IRA when all really know he hadnt the bottle for it
Maybe "plenty of people" don't think that active membership was in any way courageous in the first place?

lynchbhoy

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 03, 2010, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
obv there are plenty of people who have been taken in by the propaganda and also now believe that Adams was an active member of the IRA when all really know he hadnt the bottle for it
Maybe "plenty of people" don't think that active membership was in any way courageous in the first place?
irrelevent to the point as per usual
..........

Hardy

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: Hardy on January 03, 2010, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
Dont expect decency or truth from the likes of that sectarian paper !!

Just be fair about the whole thing, I won't expect them from Gerry Adams either.
why  -what did he say or do to merit your last post?

Oh not a thing. I don't know what came over me, to be honest, since everybody knows that Gerry Adams is the first name on the lips of the nation when decency and truth come up for discussion. He's a Mother Theresa in a beret. Sorry about that.

Maguire01

Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 03, 2010, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
obv there are plenty of people who have been taken in by the propaganda and also now believe that Adams was an active member of the IRA when all really know he hadnt the bottle for it
Maybe "plenty of people" don't think that active membership was in any way courageous in the first place?
irrelevent to the point as per usual
Not at all. You're saying he couldn't have been in the IRA because he "hadn't the bottle", implying that membership requires courage.
I don't know how much "bottle" is/was required, nor do I know whether Gerry Adams would have it or not (you seem to know that he doesn't/didn't).

pintsofguinness

Quote from: longrunsthefox on January 02, 2010, 11:07:25 PM
Well then he should just say... no comment to make on it.
and whoever was questioning him would say "that's fair enough gerry" and leave it at that? Much easier to say he wasn't a member.

Lynchboy he's been walking around with a target on his back for most of his life, I dont think it's fair to say he doesnt have bottle.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Maguire01

Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 03, 2010, 12:59:08 PM
Lynchboy he's been walking around with a target on his back for most of his life, I dont think it's fair to say he doesnt have bottle.
Some might say that is libellous.