Greysteel psycho back where he belongs...

Started by longrunsthefox, October 27, 2009, 09:13:31 PM

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Quote from: boojangles on December 03, 2009, 04:05:49 PM
What is the TUV??

Totally Useless Vermin 'Traditional Unionist Voice' [sic], an offshoot of the DUP who weren't quite prehistoric enough for them.
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Quote from: boojangles on December 03, 2009, 04:05:49 PM
What is the TUV??


Traditional Unionist Voice

http://www.tuv.org.uk/

Shower of knuckle dragging unionist dinosaurs, want things back to the way they were when Carson and Craig were in charge.
Tbc....

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Quote from: NAG1 on December 03, 2009, 04:01:03 PM
SS2 Dont be taking my comment out of context.
My point was that Torrens wouldnt know even what a petition was let alone organise one. He is completely evil my comment was that do we think that it is acceptable for some one proporting to be from a political organisation to be running around gathering signatures to release a man that has killed people in the past and has not changed in any way which his attack on the two sisters shows.

NAG I think saffron sam is referring to your use of "Torrens", that being Mr Knight's "Christian" name. 

Clearly this man is a dangerous psychopath and if this were England he'd probably be put in Broadmoor for the rest of his natural.
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longrunsthefox

NEWS REPORT
Jim Allister has said a petition, organised by a TUV member in support of a convicted loyalist murderer, has nothing to do with his party.
However, the Traditional Unionist Voice leader did confirm Garvagh businessman Trevor Collins was a party member.
Mr Collins has been collecting signatures seeking the release of Greysteel murderer Torrens Knight.
Trevor Collins: "He never was a real bad person, but the Troubles in Northern Ireland provoked many a young man to do things that they wouldn't have done in normal circumstances.
TUV leader Mr Allister said he had not been asked to sign the petition. A spokesman for the party said there were no plans to revoke Mr Collins' membership.
MLA John Dallat said he was disgusted by the petition.
"While I note that the TUV has distanced itself from the petition I would have thought that they would throw the organiser, Trevor Collins, out of the party if they really believe so strongly that all early release prisoners should be behind bars," he said.
"No one should be in any doubt that the only place for Knight is back in jail where he does not constitute a danger to the public."

Dallat is not letting them off the hook anyway... fair play to him.




nifan

Feck sake - "He never was a real bad person" ::)

What a joke - I wonder who he does think is a bad person

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: nifan on December 03, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Feck sake - "He never was a real bad person" ::)

What a joke - I wonder who he does think is a bad person

Probably no-one, Adolf Hitler was just misunderstood and Kim Jong Il was bullied as a child.
Then on reflection I'm sure he's not a big fan of Papists!  ;)
Tbc....

orangeman

What would constitute someone being described as being plain evil ??

Rossfan

Quote from: orangeman on December 03, 2009, 05:17:24 PM
What would constitute someone being described as being plain evil ??

Being a member of the GPA  :D ;)
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Quote from: longrunsthefox on December 03, 2009, 04:44:52 PM
NEWS REPORT
Jim Allister has said a petition, organised by a TUV member in support of a convicted loyalist murderer, has nothing to do with his party.
However, the Traditional Unionist Voice leader did confirm Garvagh businessman Trevor Collins was a party member.
Mr Collins has been collecting signatures seeking the release of Greysteel murderer Torrens Knight.
Trevor Collins: "He never was a real bad person, but the Troubles in Northern Ireland provoked many a young man to do things that they wouldn't have done in normal circumstances.TUV leader Mr Allister said he had not been asked to sign the petition. A spokesman for the party said there were no plans to revoke Mr Collins' membership.
MLA John Dallat said he was disgusted by the petition.
"While I note that the TUV has distanced itself from the petition I would have thought that they would throw the organiser, Trevor Collins, out of the party if they really believe so strongly that all early release prisoners should be behind bars," he said.
"No one should be in any doubt that the only place for Knight is back in jail where he does not constitute a danger to the public."

Dallat is not letting them off the hook anyway... fair play to him.

What has the troubles got to do with him attacking 2 sisters in a bar? Suppose they deserved it or something.

nrico2006

Is he back now for the remainder of his original sentence or is that to be reviewed yet?

Surely if Terence McCafferty has been sent back for supposedly nothing then battering two sisters should warrant suspension of his license.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/default.stm
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longrunsthefox


Loyalist killer Knight told he must stay in jail
A convicted loyalist killer has lost his legal challenge to the decision to suspend his early release licence.
Torrens Knight received 12 life sentences for his part in the Greysteel massacre and the separate killing of four workmen.
His prison release was suspended after he was found guilty of attacking two women in a Coleraine bar in May 2008.

Knight was seeking a judicial review of Secretary of State Shaun Woodward's decision to send him back to jail.
However, on Friday, a High Court judge refused leave to seek a review after rejecting all grounds on which the application was based.
Mr Justice Treacy said: "If the secretary of state had not suspended the applicant's licence in the teeth of a conviction for very serious offences of violence it would almost certainly have attracted public opprobrium and undermined public confidence."

Knight was sentenced to four months imprisonment last December for assault and disorderly behaviour.
Although granted bail pending his appeal, he was kept in jail due to the suspension of his licence.
'Risk to others'
Mr Woodward ordered his recall to prison due to the new conviction and a determination that he posed a risk to the safety of others.
Knight was found guilty of involvement in an attack on the Rising Sun bar in Greysteel, Derry at Halloween 1993.
Eight people were shot dead when loyalists opened fire inside the pub.
He was also convicted of the murders of four Catholic builders in Castlerock earlier the same year.
Knight was released on licence in July 2000 under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.

His lawyers argued the suspension breached his right to liberty and should not have been taken until after an appeal against the assault convictions is heard.
It was stressed that the Sentence Review Commissioners have still to determine whether to revoke the licence.
His barrister told the court that since being released Knight had "turned over a new leaf" and disassociated himself with those he was previously involved with.
But Mr Justice Treacy rejected arguments based on the relevant law, alleged inconsistencies and unreasonableness.
The judge said: "In my view the secretary of state's decision that these convictions indicated that the applicant had breached the condition of his licence not to become a danger to the public is unimpeachable.
"Whether or not he is in fact a danger to the public will be determined by the Sentence Review Commissioners exercising their powers under the 1998 Act."

He added that, provided the secretary of state acts rationally and in good faith, his decision is unassailable.
"It is impossible to even contend that the secretary of state's belief that the applicant had broken his licence condition was irrational."

red hander


Nally Stand

This mean he only does four months still? Or does the sentence review crowd still have the option of enforcing him to serve the rest of his original sentence?
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longrunsthefox

I think he gets the original... his buddy got put back in to serve the rest of his life sentence after he was lashing boys with a stanley knife at  a Glentoran game... nice lads alrite. 

Nally Stand

Hmmm pillars of society alrite. Wonder what those other pillars of society in the RUC that were up to their ears in it are at with themselves now? Playing golf in their retirement maybe. Or worse still, behind a desk in the uniform of a PSNI law enforcer.
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