Peter McKenna

SLIGONIAN · September 09, 2009, 07:30:27 PM

Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 09, 2009, 04:16:09 PM
QuoteWhat about it?
This is a GAA discussion board.
Do we have to personally know people before we can discuss them?

Jinxy, this is the last time I am going to go to the bother of taking you by the hand and explaining things to you.

It was alleged that I was related to Peter McKenna, which in itself was a stupid allegation. It was then alleged that I know Peter McKenna which as it happens I do like I know hundreds and thousands of people but which has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic in question. I merely made the point if knowing somebody was a crime what about those that didn't know him at all, never seen him or read about him and they make comments while I would be judged that knowing him is a reason to agree with him. Knowing somebody has nothing to do with it, same as I know all my local TD's but can't agree with them all or vote for them all. Can you understand that? Probably not.

Your a clown, and your embarrasing yourself at this stage.

Im speechless, ive never seen such a weak defence. The saddest part is your ego, the stubborness to be right in face of clearly being wrong. McKenna clearly thinks he owns the place and its sadly gone to his head and you being his friend is relevant as your bias in backing him up, basic pyschology but you keep lying to yourself. In 125 yrs no serious injury, please argue against that statstic....

Why not just put up signs, enter pitch at your own risk and put liability on the US trespassers...

Or just let us on the pitch as players are in hoganstand....

Why cant there be a compromise to minimise the rush to the players? Why fencing ffs?

ONeill · September 09, 2009, 07:43:19 PM

Will someone please think of Bud's granny.

SLIGONIAN · September 09, 2009, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 07:43:19 PM
Will someone please think of Bud's granny.

Ya stay in your seat Mrs Bud granny

There is a motto in H&S, you are the one responisble for your H&S.

Bud Wiser · September 09, 2009, 08:22:00 PM

Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 09, 2009, 07:30:27 PM
Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 09, 2009, 04:16:09 PM
QuoteWhat about it?
This is a GAA discussion board.
Do we have to personally know people before we can discuss them?

Jinxy, this is the last time I am going to go to the bother of taking you by the hand and explaining things to you.

It was alleged that I was related to Peter McKenna, which in itself was a stupid allegation. It was then alleged that I know Peter McKenna which as it happens I do like I know hundreds and thousands of people but which has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic in question. I merely made the point if knowing somebody was a crime what about those that didn't know him at all, never seen him or read about him and they make comments while I would be judged that knowing him is a reason to agree with him. Knowing somebody has nothing to do with it, same as I know all my local TD's but can't agree with them all or vote for them all. Can you understand that? Probably not.

Your a clown, and your embarrasing yourself at this stage.

Im speechless, ive never seen such a weak defence. The saddest part is your ego, the stubborness to be right in face of clearly being wrong. McKenna clearly thinks he owns the place and its sadly gone to his head and you being his friend is relevant as your bias in backing him up, basic pyschology but you keep lying to yourself. In 125 yrs no serious injury, please argue against that statstic....

Why not just put up signs, enter pitch at your own risk and put liability on the US trespassers...

Or just let us on the pitch as players are in hoganstand....

Why cant there be a compromise to minimise the rush to the players? Why fencing ffs?

You are the one who is a clown, and a big one at that. Where did you pull that statistic from. You might be right if you said there was none from Sligo injured at an All-Ireland all right. There are a couple of other mottos regarding H&S and you should go and do a safe pass course before you come on here with wild statements that there was no serious injuries in Croke Park in 125 years, because not alone are you responsible for your own health and safety, you are even more responsible for others. Jesus wept. Next you will be saying that Peter McKenna is paying out insurance claims of millions in fraudulent claims. How many people have died of heart attacks at games and how do you expect ambulance crews to get to them with this kind of yahooism. Are you saying Dessie Farrell is wrong as well by registering his concern for players safety?

Jinxy · September 09, 2009, 08:53:59 PM

Quote from: Bud Wiser on September 09, 2009, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 09, 2009, 07:30:27 PM

Your a clown, and your embarrasing yourself at this stage.

Im speechless, ive never seen such a weak defence. The saddest part is your ego, the stubborness to be right in face of clearly being wrong. McKenna clearly thinks he owns the place and its sadly gone to his head and you being his friend is relevant as your bias in backing him up, basic pyschology but you keep lying to yourself. In 125 yrs no serious injury, please argue against that statstic....

Why not just put up signs, enter pitch at your own risk and put liability on the US trespassers...

Or just let us on the pitch as players are in hoganstand....

Why cant there be a compromise to minimise the rush to the players? Why fencing ffs?

You are the one who is a clown, and a big one at that. Where did you pull that statistic from. You might be right if you said there was none from Sligo injured at an All-Ireland all right. There are a couple of other mottos regarding H&S and you should go and do a safe pass course before you come on here with wild statements that there was no serious injuries in Croke Park in 125 years, because not alone are you responsible for your own health and safety, you are even more responsible for others. Jesus wept. Next you will be saying that Peter McKenna is paying out insurance claims of millions in fraudulent claims. How many people have died of heart attacks at games and how do you expect ambulance crews to get to them with this kind of yahooism. Are you saying Dessie Farrell is wrong as well by registering his concern for players safety?

What the dickens are you talking about?

Bud Wiser · September 09, 2009, 09:44:55 PM

Oh sweet jeeeezus, just when I was going to switch off I have to explain again. Right, Mr. McKenna, Director, Croke Park stadium stated that as part of fire regulations the pitch is used as access for Fire Brigade etc. Now, did you ever see the van type thingy, white, with blue flashing lights and a siren, that be an ambulance. Mostly they enter Croke Park down at the Nally/Hogan stand end. What Mr McKenna was trying to point out was that if there was an incident in the stands access would be made difficult for fire brigade and ambulance crews. It has often happened, and as recently as the quarter finals this year in the Davin Stand that people get heart attacks, old people in particular. Does that explain the Dickens thing I was talking about.

If the GPA didn't support this new agenda that is being brought in there would be some sense in objecting to it but seeing as they are the players main representatives surely you should be backing the GPA and the players in their concerns for their own safety? Every player in the country is in favour of this proposal by fact that the GPA have supported it so perhaps you should start supporting it too or you will have a strike on your hands and no presentation to cheer at, particularly as Cork are in the final.

Minder · September 09, 2009, 10:00:37 PM

Did Michael Kavanagh not say he prefers the "traditional" presentation?

Jinxy · September 09, 2009, 10:02:17 PM

Michael Kavanagh should know his place.
"Mr McKenna" is calling the shots here!

orangeman · September 09, 2009, 10:04:16 PM

Quote from: Minder on September 09, 2009, 10:00:37 PM
Did Michael Kavanagh not say he prefers the "traditional" presentation?

Is Michael Kavanagh in the GPA Bud ? Has he had a change of heart ?

Bud Wiser · September 09, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

Michael Kavanagh has no say once Desmond makes a statement. ALL the players are represented by the GPA and, as I said, don't be surprised if there is a strike threat by the players if the presentation is not done out on the pitch. The GPA are involved in this now and it is great to see the two groups, Dessies and Peter's working together for the safety of all.

One other thing, someone posted that Granny should not sit in front of one of the gates onto the pitch. The gates is not the only area that people use to get on the pitch, they climb over the wall which is ok for them but not for children who are likely to get caught between the wall and the oncoming rush. No matter how much training an old lady of 98 does she would never clear that wall, nor should she have to.

granny in training for Sunday week.

bottlethrower7 · September 10, 2009, 09:32:21 AM

This whole debacle is the fault of 2 groups of people;

1: The Dubs. Synonymous with the hill. Anything bad-press related that involves hill 16 will by association also involve the Dubs
2: Offaly. That sit-down protest in '98 has left deep emotional scars with both Criostoir O'Cuinneagh agus Peadar MicCionnaith, as well as pot-hole they still haven't been able to get rid off over by the bend between canal end and cusack stand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk7h-_7mrqs

What rankled even moreso about the latter case was that the Offaly sit-down protest came about because of an error in timekeeping by one who was also the namesake of Criostoir O'Cuinneagh. The O'Cuinneaghs couldn't show their faces in public for weeks after, such was their utter humiliation.

So forget the dubs. This is all about Offaly. Its Offaly's fault. August 23rd 1998. Thats the day this all began. Shame on you Offaly.

bottlethrower7 · September 10, 2009, 09:34:19 AM

That video there. 1 min 25 seconds in. I'm almost positive that young lad with the Offaly hat over Brian Whelehan's shoulder is turk. Almost positive.

ballinaman · September 10, 2009, 09:43:10 AM

Glad to see that Dr Micky Loftus and Sean Kelly, both past presidents have come out today in favour of pitch invasions. Regarding attendances.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#Past_winners

tyroneStatto · September 10, 2009, 09:46:11 AM

how long has peter mckenna been director of croke park stadium? and what did he do before this?

Bud Wiser · September 10, 2009, 10:29:29 AM

Quote from: clarshack on September 10, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
how long has peter mckenna been director of croke park stadium? and what did he do before this?

He was involved in getting a very large stadium in another country up and running. Whoever headhunted him did some job.

Agree with bottlethrower, again, that something has to be done with the Hill. Since they won't be able to go up high and back far enough for cantilever type construction I think they should make it a complete corporate level area. Allow nobody into that area then only VIP's but not Corporate boxes, just like Premium Seats but with a bit more style like a champagne bar and a bit of prematch entertainment like pole dancers or something. Allow in only gold credit card holders and use RFID to deduct the price of drink off their cards instead of having them queue up at bars like ordinary plebs, and above all, rename the place from Hill 16 which to visitors sounds like the name of some machine gun or a jet fighter to something more like Little Dubai or along those lines.