Irish Generals planned to attack the six counties.

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man in black

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
I think it's true to say that we in the South should be ashamed of our lack of actions in the North of this country. I also think it's fair to say we deserted our Northern brothers and sisters.
Not only did we decide against military action in the North, we also failed to draw necessary attention to the situation there. The reason for this was self interest and cowardice.
Now it can be argued what result of military action by the Irish army in 1969 would be. It could of ended in many different ways, it mightn't even have ended yet but if the reasons given for the lack of action back then and now (ie. the whole country would be under British rule, we would of been squashed), then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?
If we say that we couldn't invade and we say there was no-one we could get to help the Northern Nationalists then what did we expect them to do? Did we expect the British to help :o Surely an armed struggle was their only option.


its a pity your fellow countrymen (especially the dubs) didnt feel the same.

'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black

Gnevin


Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

man in black

Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.


The provos fought a sectarian war ? What planet do you reside on - you west brit tool.

'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black

Gnevin

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Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.


The provos fought a sectarian war ? What planet do you reside on - you west brit tool.

Explain the choice of targets so?
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

man in black

Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.


The provos fought a sectarian war ? What planet do you reside on - you west brit tool.

Explain the choice of targets so?


Ruc / Brit Army was the bulk of them


'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black

Gnevin

Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.


The provos fought a sectarian war ? What planet do you reside on - you west brit tool.

Explain the choice of targets so?


Ruc / Brit Army was the bulk of them

Yes but not all of them and the others are very hard to justify at least for me .
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

man in black

Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 11:03:26 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: man in black on September 02, 2009, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.


The provos fought a sectarian war ? What planet do you reside on - you west brit tool.

Explain the choice of targets so?


Ruc / Brit Army was the bulk of them

Yes but not all of them and the others are very hard to justify at least for me .


Collatoral damage

'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black

pintsofguinness

Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.

f**k me that's idiotic.  Do you think the IRA or IRB never killed civillians before 1922 or something?  More civillians were killed in 1916 than British soldiers.

Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Gnevin

Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2009, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 10:01:57 AM

Quote from: Dont Matter on September 01, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
then why is the majority of the people down south anti IRA?


Because the PIRA fought a dirty sectarian war and were happy to kill civilians rather than kill legitimate targets. The PIRA disgraced the name IRA.

f**k me that's idiotic.  Do you think the IRA or IRB never killed civillians before 1922 or something?  More civillians were killed in 1916 than British soldiers.

There is a slight difference between being caught in the cross fire and the deliberate targeting of civilians and civilians areas such as pubs.
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

pintsofguinness

civilians were targeted and killed in the War of independence too, look in to the casualties of the time, sectarian killings took place, particularly in the North, by both sides.

Yet you view the IRA that done that through rose tinted glasses and the IRA who done it 30 years ago were bad.

The PIRA, in the troubles, btw, largely targeted military targets.  Yes, they did target civilians on occasions but most of the campaign was aimed towards the military.  If they were just out to take part in a sectarian war killing civilians why would they risk their lives attacking military targets?
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Gnevin

Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
civilians were targeted and killed in the War of independence too, look in to the casualties of the time, sectarian killings took place, particularly in the North, by both sides.

Yet you view the IRA that done that through rose tinted glasses and the IRA who done it 30 years ago were bad.

The PIRA, in the troubles, btw, largely targeted military targets.  Yes, they did target civilians on occasions but most of the campaign was aimed towards the military.  If they were just out to take part in a sectarian war killing civilians why would they risk their lives attacking military targets?
Ok fair enough ,you make a valid point . Perhaps I should of said the PIRA where  far more sectarian than the IRA of old
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: Gnevin on September 02, 2009, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
civilians were targeted and killed in the War of independence too, look in to the casualties of the time, sectarian killings took place, particularly in the North, by both sides.

Yet you view the IRA that done that through rose tinted glasses and the IRA who done it 30 years ago were bad.

The PIRA, in the troubles, btw, largely targeted military targets.  Yes, they did target civilians on occasions but most of the campaign was aimed towards the military.  If they were just out to take part in a sectarian war killing civilians why would they risk their lives attacking military targets?
Ok fair enough ,you make a valid point . Perhaps I should of said the PIRA where  far more sectarian than the IRA of old
That's still idiotic. 
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

stephenite

The man in black has the semblance of a valid point - if the question is ever asked (referendum) I wouldn't be surprised if the people of the 26 counties voted to keep the border.

Main Street

Can you point to any evidence to suggest such a result in a referendum poll?