Mountbatten memorial sparks row in Donegal

[delboy]

As for the UJ and us being part of it because there's a cross shaped like an X to represent us.
Nobody asked our permission to do this so it's nothing to do with me thanks very much.

Exactly the point im making about the inclusion of orange in the tri colour, both can be viewed as either mutually inclusive or inclusion by force depending on the viewer.

[deiseach]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

[Myles Na G.]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

I believe that in some circumstances - self defence, mainly - killing is justified. If you want to call that discriminate killing, fair enough.

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

I believe that in some circumstances - self defence, mainly - killing is justified. If you want to call that discriminate killing, fair enough.

You say self defence killing, in the main could be justified. What other circumstances could be justified, in your opinion?

[Myles Na G.]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

I believe that in some circumstances - self defence, mainly - killing is justified. If you want to call that discriminate killing, fair enough.

You say self defence killing, in the main could be justified. What other circumstances could be justified, in your opinion?

Self defence, or in some circumstances, the defence of others. In each situation, the threat needs to be critical, the response needs to be proportionate to the threat, and there should be no other practical alternative open to you.

[lynchbhoy]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

I believe that in some circumstances - self defence, mainly - killing is justified. If you want to call that discriminate killing, fair enough.

You say self defence killing, in the main could be justified. What other circumstances could be justified, in your opinion?

Self defence, or in some circumstances, the defence of others. In each situation, the threat needs to be critical, the response needs to be proportionate to the threat, and there should be no other practical alternative open to you.

sounds like you founded the IRA 

[Myles Na G.]

I have no problem condemning indiscriminate killing, whether its carried out by private armies like the IRA or by armies of states. The victims end up just as dead.

But discriminate killing is okay?

I believe that in some circumstances - self defence, mainly - killing is justified. If you want to call that discriminate killing, fair enough.

You say self defence killing, in the main could be justified. What other circumstances could be justified, in your opinion?

Self defence, or in some circumstances, the defence of others. In each situation, the threat needs to be critical, the response needs to be proportionate to the threat, and there should be no other practical alternative open to you.

sounds like you founded the IRA 

The IRA has already been mentioned in this context: see the earlier post on indiscriminate killing.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

So Myles na Gob your basically saying you support the shoot to kill policy employed by the crown forces in the six counties.

[dillinger]

So Myles na Gob your basically saying you support the shoot to kill policy employed by the crown forces in the six counties.

Of course they were the only ones with a shoot to policy?

[Myles Na G.]

So Myles na Gob your basically saying you support the shoot to kill policy employed by the crown forces in the six counties.

Not what I'm saying, no.

[cynic]

It's instructive that there were 18 British soldiers murdered on the same day that Mountbatten was killed.  No-one in Ireland or Britain remembers their names; no one publishes commemorative books; no-one (as they currently are debating in Donegal county council) seeks to erect monuments to them; no-one remembers the effect on their families in emotional newspaper articles.

Just as we find that "Bertie the Socialist" was lobbying for tax breaks for big-shots to remain, we now have another FF man lobbying for memorials to victims of the Troubles, but only if they were titled victims. 

"Up the Republic" means something different these days.

[man in black]

No-one in Ireland or Britain remembers their names

No one should. They were somewhere were they shouldnt have been, just like the dick heads in Afghanistan. Fair game IMHO

[Galwaybhoy]

It's instructive that there were 18 British soldiers murdered on the same day that Mountbatten was killed.  No-one in Ireland or Britain remembers their names; no one publishes commemorative books; no-one (as they currently are debating in Donegal county council) seeks to erect monuments to them; no-one remembers the effect on their families in emotional newspaper articles.

Just as we find that "Bertie the Socialist" was lobbying for tax breaks for big-shots to remain, we now have another FF man lobbying for memorials to victims of the Troubles, but only if they were titled victims. 

"Up the Republic" means something different these days.

Bit of a difference between the death of a British soldier and innocent kids out on a boat Cynic.  I don't like to see anyone killed but those in the British army now what the risks are and were at war with the PIRA, but as for those innocent kids, they had nothing got to do with the Troubles and were basically killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time which is a disgrace.

As for the memorial, I'm all for it as long as its for all the victims of that bombing and not just Mountbatten.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Can someone give me ONE good reason why Donegal County Council should even be getting involved with this?!