Antrim Hurling

[imtommygunn]

I was mainly commenting on NAGs post skull.

If someone exists in the club who has an agenda of pushing better players towards soccer to further their own interests then that would be wrong.

Is that what is being done though? Maybe someone has an interest in soccer and is encouraging young players to play it too - maybe there's more to it than that I dunno. I find it hard to believe that there will be much, material, gain from pushing these guys towards soccer. What would they get out of it?

[BlackandAmber]

So it's OK to have have someone who is part of a GAA coaching development set up ........

Huh?

Do you mean Oran Kearney?  Or who is it that is part of a GAA coaching development setup?

Cross & passions sportning  academy award wasn't made purely for Gaelic sport.  It was for SPORT.  Oran Kearney helped with all sports as far as I know.  And I repeat Ballycastle knew for years that these young players were likely to get snapped up by some football club.  They've already been playing for another football club anyway.  Coleraine I'd guess have given them a better deal.  It's a pity.  I'd prefer that they chose to stay & play hurling.  We need them but I'm not going to condemn them or anyone else for earnnig a few bob from their talent.

[BlackandAmber]

Ballycastle starting to crumble under the influence of soccer then -= suppose it was only a matter of time before they were impacted by the city mentality!

Are you implying that this is your level Blackandamber?

Surely you are favourites to go up in div 2?

I would say Galls will be weak enough wednesday, heard they will be missing a few (probably football trainin on lol )

But they really arent good travellers anyway!

That's not the implication at all.  It;s the reality at the moment and the ambition is to get back to Div 1 & start winning championships again.  Don't know about being favourites though.  we have lost the 4 players already mentioned though I don't think young jennings played much last year.  We also have players injured or just getting back from injury.  maybe the worst part of the U21 result against sarsfields is that a lot of those lads have to pick themsleves up again for Wed night and from what I hear thier performance last night was very poor. I'm told sarsfields played well and really wanted it.

The facts of life are that clubs everywhere will lose good players for all sorts of reasons and they'll keep going on.  Seems that this year we've been badly hit but we'll keep on going.

[clootfromthe21]

Just saw this on the County message board -

"I would like to wish Sean Hawes a speedy recovery from his injury sustained at the weekend."

Is Chrissy back in the picture???

Have to say, the only way that the draw could have been more favourable to us was if we got Carlow first and then Westmeath.

That's not to say Westmeath wont do a number on us on the back of their great performance against Galway. Its hard to imagine us racking up 2 - 14 against Galway and to think that they had something in the order of 15 wides!!!!

[Seamroga in exile]

So, the u21 final is in Casement park on Saturday at 6pm. Quelle surprise!

[Saffron exile]

Was in the Irish News on Monday that Sean Hawes had broken his ankle. Who are the senior keepers in the panel now?

[Minder]

If young Clarke gives up the hurling i would imagine he will regret it, what would you tell your kids about in twenty years time? "I won three championships with my mates" or " I scored a hat trick against Ballyclare Comrades". Of course he could end up signing for a team in England and make a fortune but i would imagine the chances of that happening are slim.

[Tony Baloney]

If young Clarke gives up the hurling i would imagine he will regret it, what would you tell your kids about in twenty years time? "I won three championships with my mates" or " I scored a hat trick against Ballyclare Comrades". Of course he could end up signing for a team in England and make a fortune but i would imagine the chances of that happening are slim.

Easy on Minder, he played for Ballycastle.

No point blaming snakes in the grass etc. these boys male their own choices in life and have probably been playing soccer for years too. Hurling isn't the only game in town.

[Buswhacker]

Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

[theskull1]

Sky and "our" homogenised love affair with the "beautiful game" (because the media tells us to) has dimmed the brain of manys a Gael.

[imtommygunn]

Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

What's your definition of big? There would be quite a few boys from Belfast who would have played for antrim, probably more football, made it in the top league and played in the world cup - to me that's big. Best had as big a rep as any man united player - if you didn't make it as "big" as him you could still do pretty well. Martin O'Neill has two european cup medals - is that not big?

Anyway - hurling thread... Watson can play both so why can't Clarke??

[Glensman]

Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

Depends what you call "big". I wouldn't mind getting the following players wages:
Chris Baird
Kyle Lafferty
Gareth McAuley
Maik Taylor
etc

I just don't understand why he has to choose one or the other at this stage in his career. If he is that good and on the verge of a trial with an English club then fair enough - concentrate on soccer for a year. If not there is no reason why he can't play both hurling and soccer. Burnout smurnout.
I agree with different parts of different arguments here but can empathise with the position that a few years down the line, if he is plying his trade in Div 1/Div 2 of the NI soccer league he may miss out on an under 21 championship or two and the step up to Ballycastle seniors contending he may regret this.

[Buswhacker]

By big I mean Premier class. The players you mention are earning big wages,but how many players from here reach their level,which in turn is hardly comparable to the wages earned at Man Utd. etc. The availability of good foreign players has ruined the chances of many locals of ever making the grade. I would advise young players to think carefully and be honest about their own abilities before they give up their GAA games for a pipe dream.

[theskull1]

Loads of parents I know who take their kids to soccer have been told about this scout and that scout from clubs across the shugh interested in their young lad. Very easy to get pipe dreams when local soccer teams use such devious techniques to keep young lads coming back. 

[btdtgtt]

Yes I think other sports are a growing problem - and no coincedence its mainly at underage level.

After all, there's a loss of the parish/local pride etc (general in society) so young guys are more inclined to fly the nest - especially if there's a few quid in it.
But also our underage strucutes (pitches, goalnets etc but mainly refs availabitlity) mean soccer still has the edge at this level.

Ballycastle sufffer but even more so the city clubs - hard to see what can be done?

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.
Heard the Rossa boys were none to happy comin out of Glenarm also?