Antrim Hurling

[NAG1]

There are many players in the panel who have committed themselves to the cause over the last months and have worked hard. It would be unfair on those players to pull out of competitions they have been training towards. Yes, there are problems. Yes, things haven't worked out but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Unfortunately this had the potential to end this way from the get go and there will be no gloating about it. It is another sorry chapter in a bad year.

There are plenty of commited lads on the panel to see out the CR withdrawing would be another blight on this season.

To put out a team does not take 4 nights a week training get them back to the clubs and approach it from the basis that the clubs prepare the players to the best of their ability.

[btdtgtt]

You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.

I think we can safely say there's more than one issue wrong with Antrim county hurling.

No end of issues.



Where does the repair job start?

Do we pull out of the CR?

I don't think pulling out of the CR is an option, we are too big a county to not field a senior hurling team. Would maybe be benificial to play the u-21s get them a good few games and let them maybe gel to try give an all Ireland u21 a rattle. Maybe not to win but at least be competitive.

Again a fair suggestion. And proactive.
Play the U21s sprinkled with some guys we know have the calibre for senior county hurling - while the club season goes ahead unfettered.

[Brocky]

There are many players in the panel who have committed themselves to the cause over the last months and have worked hard. It would be unfair on those players to pull out of competitions they have been training towards. Yes, there are problems. Yes, things haven't worked out but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

+1

Unfortunately this had the potential to end this way from the get go and there will be no gloating about it. It is another sorry chapter in a bad year.

There are plenty of commited lads on the panel to see out the CR withdrawing would be another blight on this season.

To put out a team does not take 4 nights a week training get them back to the clubs and approach it from the basis that the clubs prepare the players to the best of their ability.

Sounds as sensible an option as there is.

[MoChara]

Any word from last night's meeting about the in house betting yet?

[theskull1]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

[NAG1]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

[theskull1]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

That really would be kicking a man when he's down, but yes ... I could see that being the 'upper echelons of the GAA way' .

[btdtgtt]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

Kilkenny footballers have set somewhat of a precedent here?
But I don't see any such request being facilitated by GAA at HQ on this occasion.

From casement dunsilly betting & pJs resignation (let alone cushendall scandal) I'm still waiting to see how our new all promising county executive now stand up to their PR with actual actions.

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Representing our county is now seen as a joke. Who wouldn't want to walk away from it.

What supporter will pay to see a team that bet against themselves?

[north_antrim_hound]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

That's the burning question are we obliged to play at this stage or is it mandatory
I think a players vote would be fair IF we do have the choice
I would be on for pulling out
We need a redress of the whole county system and how we are preparing players for county hurling
And playing away with the club  will not prepare them for inter county hurling
And a lot of our top club players are not committed enough
Gonna take years to fix this with more resources put in at minor and younger
Let's try building from the ground up for a change

[NAG1]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Well said HS - Back the ones who have commited.

[btdtgtt]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Again valid - which shows just what a mess we're in.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a new invigorated county executive to step in an show some conviction.

[north_antrim_hound]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Again valid - which shows just what a mess we're in.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a new invigorated county executive to step in an show some conviction.

Again it's up to the players if you ask me
It's some mess
We haven't won jack s..t for years yet we have two big stories on hoganstand that's embarrassing and that's just today

[imtommygunn]

We haven't won jack s ever!!

Bad times.

[Sleeping giant]

Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

110% correct and right HS. Let the players go back with the clubs.  Pick a panel two weeks before the Christy Ring and give it a go with the players that are proud of there county.