Antrim Hurling

[Milltown Row2]

BTW I would much have preferred the game been on a better day, before anyone thinks I'm saying it was grand..

[left peg]

The word on the street was banagher were out warming up but slaughtneil didn't leave the changing rooms to play it in the conditions. Any truth to it?
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Yeah Slaughtneil did an intense warm up in Kevin Lynch park prior to playing banagher. Dungiven hate Brian McGilligan that much nothings a problem.

Don't believe all you hear on the streets.

[Tony Baloney]

background irrelevant.  common sense should have prevailed.  I'm no Barra Best but I knew it was to get worse as the day progressed.

Being at the match, that proved accurate.

madness playing it.  but it is what it is.  both teams had to deal with it, toss was massive.  my point, is the county board could have done more to avoid the likes of this happening

I'm not privy in how these things are run, I have been involved with organising tournaments and the like for the club, and its not just a case of waying in on a different day and its done. All changes have knock on effects

Both games (intermediate, senior) were being streamed, multiple cameras, stewards to organised on a Sat instead of Sunday (people with other commitments for different days) agreements from both teams on playing the Sat, which when teams can't decide on which dugouts to go to gives you an idea of how thran people can be.

I just think its not as easy as you'd suggested, but that's why we need people like you at the county board with ideas to make it better..

I'm not sure who's laughing, think you have made that bit up

You also have to factor in the Dall ones not missing Mass or doing a bit of farming.

[paddyjohn]

background irrelevant.  common sense should have prevailed.  I'm no Barra Best but I knew it was to get worse as the day progressed.

Being at the match, that proved accurate.

madness playing it.  but it is what it is.  both teams had to deal with it, toss was massive.  my point, is the county board could have done more to avoid the likes of this happening

I'm not privy in how these things are run, I have been involved with organising tournaments and the like for the club, and its not just a case of waying in on a different day and its done. All changes have knock on effects

Both games (intermediate, senior) were being streamed, multiple cameras, stewards to organised on a Sat instead of Sunday (people with other commitments for different days) agreements from both teams on playing the Sat, which when teams can't decide on which dugouts to go to gives you an idea of how thran people can be.

I just think its not as easy as you'd suggested, but that's why we need people like you at the county board with ideas to make it better..

I'm not sure who's laughing, think you have made that bit up

You also have to factor in the Dall ones not missing Mass or doing a bit of farming.

Maybe that's why they are so successful.

[Two Hands FFS]

Has anyone checked on Tosh? Poor fella was gutted on Sunday

[Gael-in-exile]

Has anyone checked on Tosh? Poor fella was gutted on Sunday

I noted it took a former county player and Loughgiel hurler to let Jerome Quinn know that the referee would not be overly biased against Dunloy due to what the commentator said was 'a big rivalry between Loughgiel & Dunloy' and in fact those from Loughgiel dislike Cushendall and Dunloy equally.

[Milltown Row2]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

[Gael-in-exile]

I thought he was excellent. Any concerns about how he may approach it being such a big game and his first county senior final were gone after about 3-4 minutes.
The comment from the commentator was terrible I thought, he tried to go back on it a good while later in the coverage but it struck as unfair on the ref and also could've been considered to show a bit of his own bias.

[paddyjohn]

I don't know how people are saying anything negative about the ref. I thought he was very good.

[north_antrim_hound]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

[Milltown Row2]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

All about angles on some calls and I understand what you are saying, though if you were standing were I was every call against Cushendall was met with the same questions to me lol

[Gael-in-exile]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

We must've been watching a different game or have a varied view on the rules and how they are officiated.
I hope Tosh wasn't trying to 'find rationale' with his comment or he was claiming the ref was being biased.
And I certainly didn't think that's what he was saying but nor did I think the quote was appropriate.

[NorthAntrim]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

Burke stood his ground. Was a good tackle imo. Correct call from the ref

[Jonkunlon]

There was one yellow card missed I believe.

Dunloy player broke the line in the LHF position (later stages of the first half). Cushendall half back pulled him back by the forearm.

Ciaran blew for the free and went to his pocket but got distracted by something else. I believe, though could be wrong, he forgot to issue the yellow.

[SaffronSports]

I honestly thought the ref got the Dunloy penalty wrong and at the time thought he was blowing for overcarrying. I don't expect refs to be perfect though and they'll see what they see from where they are on the pitch and I'd say 99.9% of them there is no malice involved.

I didn't catch what Johnny said to be honest but did hear the bit where he kind of back tracks on it. I assume he said something about the ref being from Loughgiel and them being rivals with Dunloy? TBH I'd say a lot of the Loughgiel ones I know dislike Cushendall more but when you have dominated the way those three have for so long there will be no love lost between any of them.