The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[imtommygunn]

This was only the second old firm game I've ever watched to be honest.

My two cents would be...

- that Rangers team are a real dirty shower - Diouf and the fella that got sent off are no good at all, In fact to be honest Diouf is one of the most dispicable individuals I've ever seen on a football field. Lafferty is approaching that league too.

- however I would share some viewpoints here that Lennon isn't much good either. Whether he is just fiery or there is more to it than that he seems to add a lot of tension to the old firm games.

I grew up in a family where we supported celtic but I have moved away from it. I watched it as I heard Celtic were good and to be fair they looked good that night. They however seem to bottle it against smaller teams.

There are individuals on both sides who are no good. I would say there are more on the Rangers side however Lennon is the key man for Celtic and you would expect better from a manager.

[imtommygunn]

He wasn't much good in the whole thing either HS.

There is just something about Lennon for me though...

He is always attracting trouble. It can't always be the other persons fault.

[Milltown Row2]

Ok so most on here believe that Celtic in general are good and Rangers are bad. That's cleared that up. 

[bennydorano]

You cant make generalisations about anything, but there's plenty of bigots about. A lot of people merely lose the run of themselves for 90 mins in a lot of old firm games, hard to know what % carries it with them into daily life.

So what you're saying is that they can be bigots for 90 minutes but grand after that?

Didn't think what i wrote was that hard to understand, but it's clear what u after & i'm not biting

[saffron sam2]

Would it be fair to say that die hard Celtic and Rangers fans are bigots???

No, it would be erroneous, idiotic, infantile and make you more of a bigot than those you denounce as such.

[Evil Genius]

There is just something about Lennon for me though...

He is always attracting trouble. It can't always be the other persons fault.

So have I got this straight, then?

When itg makes the above point, it is unremarkable.

Yet when I make essentially the same point, according to certain posters that makes me a sectarian bigot.

Isn't there some biblical proverb about "motes" and "beams" which applies? 

[Applesisapples]

Any one commenting on a Celtic thread with Loyalist Flag as his icon must surely only be stirring it?

[Nally Stand]

Any one commenting on a Celtic thread with Loyalist Flag as his icon must surely only be stirring it?

He more or less admitted to being a WUM:

P.S. I could say a whole lot of things about Rangers and some of the tramps who follow them etc, but my lashing into that lot on a GAAboard hardly makes for lively debate, does it?

[fitzroyalty]

Yet when I make essentially the same point, according to certain posters that makes me a sectarian bigot.

Lennon is no angel but seemingly some people need no excuse to lay the boot in - you brought up his dealings outside of football which were IMO largely irrelevant, meaning I would class you under that category.

And as for his recent altercation with McCoist, IMO it was nothing different from what you'd see Arsene Wenger and other EPL managers do on a weekly basis with the opposing management/referee/linesman.

[lynchbhoy]

You cant make generalisations about anything, but there's plenty of bigots about. A lot of people merely lose the run of themselves for 90 mins in a lot of old firm games, hard to know what % carries it with them into daily life.

So what you're saying is that they can be bigots for 90 minutes but grand after that?

think this kind of neanderthalism happens to opposing soccer fans at most games , only at some places (eg windsor park) where death threats etc are /have been the norm.

About 13 years ago I was friendly with 2 protestant Celtic fans (one of which has a brother who supports rangers)who shout 'proddy b***d', 'orange b**d' , 'Hun f**s'  at rangers fans during Celtic games.
Rather bemusedly I pointed out that they 'werent exactly catholic themselves ' - they just laughed.
The jocks are a mad race.

I see it was all Neil lennons fault - in spite of never leaving his own techincal area - diof, mccoist etc just happened to be in or trying to get into the Celtic boss's area.
He is no angel  - like most of the global population, but apart from being outspoken and reactionary, he hasnt done a whole lot wrong here.
Celtic have hardly had a booking (or one tha was merited) against rangers this season , cant say the same for the gers though. So the ill disciplne is one sided - most likely because they see Celtic as the better team and cant handle it.

as for eg - well I was pointing out on here about the masked dupesque comments.
the backtracking never works !
maybe he is a friend of mccoist and andy gorham gang !!

[Olaf]

You cant make generalisations about anything, but there's plenty of bigots about. A lot of people merely lose the run of themselves for 90 mins in a lot of old firm games, hard to know what % carries it with them into daily life.

So what you're saying is that they can be bigots for 90 minutes but grand after that?

think this kind of neanderthalism happens to opposing soccer fans at most games , only at some places (eg windsor park) where death threats etc are /have been the norm.

About 13 years ago I was friendly with 2 protestant Celtic fans (one of which has a brother who supports rangers)who shout 'proddy b***d', 'orange b**d' , 'Hun f**s'  at rangers fans during Celtic games.
Rather bemusedly I pointed out that they 'werent exactly catholic themselves ' - they just laughed.
The jocks are a mad race.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

He wasn't much good in the whole thing either HS.

There is just something about Lennon for me though...

He is always attracting trouble. It can't always be the other persons fault.

Tell me then what has he done to "attract" bullets, hoax bombs, physical assualt on the street (more then once, including ABH), criminal damage to his property, attacks on his family and his family having to be evacuated from their house for their own safety??

I get that you don't have much time for Neil, but to come out with the above statement is wrong, you are giving sustinence to the scum that carry out the attacks - Lennon somehow deserves it, he brings it on himself!

[Main Street]

Sure Lennon must be guilty of something if he has attracted such extreme reactions, threats, scares, beatings, 24 hr security surveillance?


I note that both Celtic and Lennon have repeatedly apologised for Lennon's ott reaction to McCoist.
Neither  Rangers nor their manager,  nor even McCoist himself, have issued an apology for McCoist's "aggressive exchanges with Lennon" - quote taken from the charge sheet.

[Milltown Row2]

Would it be fair to say that die hard Celtic and Rangers fans are bigots???

No, it would be erroneous, idiotic, infantile and make you more of a bigot than those you denounce as such.

Maybe my statement/question was worded badly. I still believe that the hatred between these two clubs comes down to religion and not football (really) is this not bigotory?

Saff are you saying I'm a bigot? sometimes I'm an idiot can be stupid and get things wrong but i think I'm right here. The two clubs fester hate.

edit: but thats my view of course, i wont fall out with anyone over it or get into name calling

[lynchbhoy]

Would it be fair to say that die hard Celtic and Rangers fans are bigots???

No, it would be erroneous, idiotic, infantile and make you more of a bigot than those you denounce as such.

Maybe my statement/question was worded badly. I still believe that the hatred between these two clubs comes down to religion and not football (really) is this not bigotory?

Saff are you saying I'm a bigot? sometimes I'm an idiot can be stupid and get things wrong but i think I'm right here. The two clubs fester hate.

edit: but thats my view of course, i wont fall out with anyone over it or get into name calling

as per my post above - the Celtic rangers thing isnt just a religious thing
even then, theres not too many of the Celtic jocks that I know that are catholic or practiscing catholics