The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[lynchbhoy]

Lennon has now been in charge for our 2 most shambolic and embarrassing performances in recent times - last night, and the Ross Co semi final

but because he's a 'celtic man' he'll escape criticism from a lot of quarters

I never understood that.
I dont think Jock Stein was a 'Celtic fan' before he became manager.

Either you do a good job or you dont. Whether you support Celtic or not does not matter when you look at the results !!
For me personally I also dont give a fiddlers about the 'Celtic way' of playing- all out attacking football either- to me these days this is guaranteed footballing hari-kiri !

[the colonel]

Lennon has now been in charge for our 2 most shambolic and embarrassing performances in recent times - last night, and the Ross Co semi final

but because he's a 'celtic man' he'll escape criticism from a lot of quarters

I never understood that.
I dont think Jock Stein was a 'Celtic fan' before he became manager.

Either you do a good job or you dont. Whether you support Celtic or not does not matter when you look at the results !!
For me personally I also dont give a fiddlers about the 'Celtic way' of playing- all out attacking football either- to me these days this is guaranteed footballing hari-kiri !

Big Jock played for Celtic for a few years before he was manager. Helped him understand the Celtic way before he became manager

[Minder]

What is the "Celtic way" ? Graeme Souness was arguably Liverpools best player and look how he turned out as manager. I agree with Lynchboy, whether he played for Celtic is irrelevant. He is either capable of managing them or he isn't, early yet but it seems he isn't close to being capable.

[lynchbhoy]

Lennon has now been in charge for our 2 most shambolic and embarrassing performances in recent times - last night, and the Ross Co semi final

but because he's a 'celtic man' he'll escape criticism from a lot of quarters

I never understood that.
I dont think Jock Stein was a 'Celtic fan' before he became manager.

Either you do a good job or you dont. Whether you support Celtic or not does not matter when you look at the results !!
For me personally I also dont give a fiddlers about the 'Celtic way' of playing- all out attacking football either- to me these days this is guaranteed footballing hari-kiri !

Big Jock played for Celtic for a few years before he was manager. Helped him understand the Celtic way before he became manager

yes , but lke dalglish he wasnt a Celtic fan (Kenny was a rangers fan) before he joined Celtic as far as I know.

the celtic way is playing soccer in an all out attack manner , if you concede 5 , you'll score 6 type of thing - no emphasis on defence, just all out attack.
Looking at last night,the current team have part of the 'celtic way'  - where they dont concentrate on defence !!

this all out attack style is dead in the water in modern soccer.

I'd have had souness, George graham or even walter smith at Celtic - results are the only consideration imo.

[the colonel]

The term comes goes back to the days of Stein and before. Yes they were an ttacking team, but certainly had a solid defence. Only O'Neill in recent times did have a credible defence (and a far better over all squad with alot more money to spend).

I never said he was a fan before. I said he was a player at the club. Different arguement

[Clown]

my point was more regarding the Celtic fans that i know and listen to

Barnes was sacked for the inverness caley cup defeat, Strachan was villified and despite winning 3 out of 4 titles never fully won over a lot of the celtic support after the Artmedia hammering - to me the Ross Co and Utrecht beatings are on a par with these 2 games - yet i'd be surprised if you could find many Celtic fans calling for Lennon's head this morning

[the colonel]

If you read the main celtic forums then there is more than enough calling for Lennons head. There are many who didnt want him installed and there are plenty who are asking for the board to go, calling for Lawwell's head and asking WTF is Dermot Desmond actually doing.

All is not well on the ranks, and I wouldn't take the views here as the same as the wide spread opinion of Celtic fans

[lynchbhoy]

The term comes goes back to the days of Stein and before. Yes they were an ttacking team, but certainly had a solid defence. Only O'Neill in recent times did have a credible defence (and a far better over all squad with alot more money to spend).

I never said he was a fan before. I said he was a player at the club. Different arguement

i'm not picking up or arguing against you on those..
just imo that the manager doesnt have to be a 'celtic man' or 'celtic fan' to be a manager(or even a player) at the club.

would agree, only MON had a decent defence, and its no surprise Celtic were at their best in those years.
Surprised in a way that lennon hasnt concentrated on this, but that I suppose is where lack of exp kicks in.

theres no point in replacing him now, only MON - who'd hardly come back , or Hodgson - now taken - would have been good enouhg for me at least.

[Muzz]

Where did this come from?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/8950154.stm

[lolafrola]

Most of you are getting carried away with yourselves, the man had a terrible result last night (none disputing that). But it's still August FFS and some people are calling for his head, don't forget he has signed 9 (so far) new players from last year so at least he knew the personell from the past few seasons were not good enough.

Now anyone who expects a team to gel straight away after signing 9 new players is either naive or stupid, judge Neil Lennon in Feb or March time like they did with T Mowbray and if he's made a pig's ear of it then you cast your vote but i would be confident by then we'll be sitting top of the pile and not a mention of this.

I suspect this is a blessing in disguise for Celtic, there will be no distractions there for him to go and win the league and by this time next year i fully expect a different and more solid Celtic team.

[lynchbhoy]

Where did this come from?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/8950154.stm

was in the offing this past couple of weeks

[Muzz]

Have heard next to nothing about it.  Wasnt in any gossip I read!  Seems all to have happened pretty quick.  Cant say I am disappointed.  1 good game all season so far including pre season games.

[Clown]

Most of you are getting carried away with yourselves, the man had a terrible result last night (none disputing that). But it's still August FFS and some people are calling for his head, don't forget he has signed 9 (so far) new players from last year so at least he knew the personell from the past few seasons were not good enough.

Now anyone who expects a team to gel straight away after signing 9 new players is either naive or stupid, judge Neil Lennon in Feb or March time like they did with T Mowbray and if he's made a pig's ear of it then you cast your vote but i would be confident by then we'll be sitting top of the pile and not a mention of this.

I suspect this is a blessing in disguise for Celtic, there will be no distractions there for him to go and win the league and by this time next year i fully expect a different and more solid Celtic team.

wudnt be so sure of this

Rangers hav added good attacking players - Jelavic, Beattie, Weiss - and always seem to be stronger than Celtic in defence

Another transfer window come and gone and Samaras is still leading our attack!! 

[AidyMac]

In the dressing room at full-time last night.

Lenny : Marc you're f**king useless tonight, what the f**k man?

Fortune: I'm sorry gaffer I...

Lenny: I don't want to hear it you . get out of my sight.

(10hrs later Lenny's mobile rings)

WBA: We'd like to firm up our offer for Fortune?

Lenny: THOMMO! START THE f**king CAR - ROAD TRIP!

(5 hours later - there's a loud knock at WBA training ground)

Lenny: There you go! Delivered for you.

(dust hands) 

[Myles Na G.]

Lennon has now been in charge for our 2 most shambolic and embarrassing performances in recent times - last night, and the Ross Co semi final

but because he's a 'celtic man' he'll escape criticism from a lot of quarters

I never understood that.
I dont think Jock Stein was a 'Celtic fan' before he became manager.

Either you do a good job or you dont. Whether you support Celtic or not does not matter when you look at the results !!
For me personally I also dont give a fiddlers about the 'Celtic way' of playing- all out attacking football either- to me these days this is guaranteed footballing hari-kiri !

Big Jock played for Celtic for a few years before he was manager. Helped him understand the Celtic way before he became manager

yes , but lke dalglish he wasnt a Celtic fan (Kenny was a rangers fan) before he joined Celtic as far as I know.

the celtic way is playing soccer in an all out attack manner , if you concede 5 , you'll score 6 type of thing - no emphasis on defence, just all out attack.
Looking at last night,the current team have part of the 'celtic way'  - where they dont concentrate on defence !!

this all out attack style is dead in the water in modern soccer.

I'd have had souness, George graham or even walter smith at Celtic - results are the only consideration imo.

Is that a typo? Judged on results alone - ie. not necessarily performances - Strachan has been the most successful manager since Stein, yet you don't have a good word to say for him.
Sorry to say it, but Lennon is out of his depth. He doesn't have the experience to cope at this level. Sure he's won a few matches in the league, bit he's lost the games that counted. Take any manager from any division of the Scottish league and put them in charge at CP and they'd win more league than they'd lose. The gap in terms of resources between the Old Firm and the rest is such that the two Glasgow teams are in third gear most of the time. The Celtic Board went for the easy choice when they should've spent money bringing the best possible manager to the club. Can you imagine Man U making Paul Scholes or Giggs manager after Fergie's gone? No chance. They'll spend millions on Mourinho or somebody of that ilk. Celtic should've pursued Paul Lambert and made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He'd still be my first choice.