The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[lynchbhoy]

Big Billy is way too old and too long out of the managerial chair, nearly 20 years. He'd have no time for modern day prima donnas

Mc Grain and Lennon did all right with the reserves, winning trophies, they know the club and the pressures so its a sensible short term arrangement, and surely they can lift the Scottish Cup.

Just hope they revert to using the most experienced players available, and play a team that consists of four recognised defenders, 2 or 3 midfielders, 2 or 3 forwards, and of course a goalkeeper

Billy is exactly what Celtic need - if he was up to it these days ! At least temp !

what you say about lennon and mcgrain still means they have no exp - and the players will not respect them for reserve team exp either (esp the modern day players there who dont know much about Celtic form before 3 years ago).
Knowing the club could be counter productive as the club know them and if the players see these two guys as 'nobodies' then its not going to help.

Hopefully they will shake themselves after the poor season they have had, the inj players will get back to strengthen the side and they start digging out performances with more heart and effort. These players now have no excuse - not the excuse of a 'poor' manager etc.

A cup win is the least they need to deliver...then again its all they can deliver.

Look forward to leadership from hoiveld from centre half, and rasmussen from centre forward !

[lynchbhoy]

Lynchboy, did you want the previous regime to remain as every suggestion to date you have replied negatively?  To be honest, a teenage boy playing Championship Manager on his playstation would prob have done a better job than Mowbray these past few weeks.

not sure if I completely understand the question
but I would have wanted mowbray to stay until the end of the season.
the negativity picked up by players when a manager goes , is the same as when a department in a company is managerless - the employees usually get lazy and dont work as hard for their wage and couldnt give a toss about output and productivity while the 'cats away'.
Players are no different. they will be too busy thinking about themselves and about their contract, where they will be next season if its a new manager and the money aspects - to really care if their club and employer win the last few league games and possibly the cup.
It was the wrong thing to do imo. A silly knee jerk reaction.
I'd hope Leaders and pro's like Hoiveld and keane and rasmussen will rally the players with drive fired by shame.
I dont envy Lennon or mcgrains task.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Gonna change the poll so any suggestions for new manager for next season will be put up

[illdecide]

lets see who Celtic get in.
I am not overly impressed by havin lennon and mcgrain in charge.
was thinking earlier that maybe Billy McNeil might be tempted out of retirement for the remainder of the season.
Obv I will support any managerial appointment but it doesnt bode well leaving two fellas in charge with no experience at this lark.

Why not don't judge anyone until you see what they can do, the could win every match the rest of the season and then would you still not be impressed two Celtic legends and very experienced men who know what it takes to play for Celtic and give the passion required..."Wearing the shirt with pride and the chest sticking out"

almost any time a man is promoted to a managerial job with feck all exp - he falls flat on his face
john barnes, roy keane, souness etc
only one that I can recall doing well was Dalgleish - but he had some team around him at that stage.
so hopefully lenon and mcgrain do well, but the odds and history would be against them.

knowing what it means to play for celtic is great , but it doesnt win games - however far you stick your chest out !

you know what i mean and it's not stick the chest out and that wins you the match, i meant it that you had your chest out with pride when wearing the jersey. As someone else commented that the players there couldn't give a toss and have no pride in the jersey at all they're just there to earn a quick buck and use Celtic as a stepping stone to another club

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Lynchboy, did you want the previous regime to remain as every suggestion to date you have replied negatively?  To be honest, a teenage boy playing Championship Manager on his playstation would prob have done a better job than Mowbray these past few weeks.

not sure if I completely understand the question
but I would have wanted mowbray to stay until the end of the season.
the negativity picked up by players when a manager goes , is the same as when a department in a company is managerless - the employees usually get lazy and dont work as hard for their wage and couldnt give a toss about output and productivity while the 'cats away'.
Players are no different. they will be too busy thinking about themselves and about their contract, where they will be next season if its a new manager and the money aspects - to really care if their club and employer win the last few league games and possibly the cup.
It was the wrong thing to do imo. A silly knee jerk reaction.
I'd hope Leaders and pro's like Hoiveld and keane and rasmussen will rally the players with drive fired by shame.
I dont envy Lennon or mcgrains task.

I think you got the gist of my question from your reply.  I just think there was no choice.
Last night was surely his nadir much like ICT for Barnes?  The club IMO made the right decision, it will galvanise the players now as they will not be without criticism either.  For them to continue with him after last night would have been an insult to the fans.  Don't see much support for him on any of the forums either to be honest.  All the usual patronising 'nice guy' rubbish, but as has been proven 'nice guys finish 2nd'
I do agree Keane has become their most important player now until end of the season, his great experience will be much needed.

[lynchbhoy]

I think you got the gist of my question from your reply.  I just think there was no choice.
Last night was surely his nadir much like ICT for Barnes?  The club IMO made the right decision, it will galvanise the players now as they will not be without criticism either.  For them to continue with him after last night would have been an insult to the fans.  Don't see much support for him on any of the forums either to be honest.  All the usual patronising 'nice guy' rubbish, but as has been proven 'nice guys finish 2nd'
I do agree Keane has become their most important player now until end of the season, his great experience will be much needed.

I hope that is true, but the modern day soccer player doesnt seem to give that much of a f**k.

Keane is important, but imo hes a bit wishy washy and the harder leaders and MEN the likes of Hoiveld, loovens will be needed to drive them on, Keane will also play a part, but hes not really a leader imo.

[Celt_Man]

GDA, I can't believe you haven't put Steve Staunton name up there for next year....

[The Worker]

I hope willie mc stay gets a chance.....

knows the club inside out, outstanding success over the past few years with the u19's and then the reserve team, and given the awful financial state of the Scottish league I cant see Celtic having much money to spend on players.. they will need to develop the youth team players at the club and there is surely nobody better...........

[Minder]

I see Benitez name on the list, could Celtic afford his £90k per wk salary ? I think I know the answer.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

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Neil Lennon 1 11/8 2 5/2
Paul Lambert 5 5 9/2 4
Mark Hughes 8 6 6 7
Willie McStay 8 8 12
Steve Clarke 14
Slaven Bilic 16 10 16 10
John Collins 16 16 10 16
Roy Keane 14 16 12 9
John Hughes 14 9 16 14
Derek McInnes 20
Brian Kerr 20 20
Mick McCarthy 20 20 16
Roy Aitken 16 25
Kenny Dalglish 25 25
Roberto Di Matteo 25
George Burley 25
Roberto Martinez 25
Mark McGhee 20 25 14
Lubo Moravcik 25 16 20
Gordon Strachan 33 33 25
Giovanni Trapattoni 33
Owen Coyle 33 14 14
Alan Curbishley 16 33

[lynchbhoy]

why derek mcinnes ?

for me the only two that I'd half consider would be mccarthy and George burley

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

I hope that is true, but the modern day soccer player doesnt seem to give that much of a f**k.

Keane is important, but imo hes a bit wishy washy and the harder leaders and MEN the likes of Hoiveld, loovens will be needed to drive them on, Keane will also play a part, but hes not really a leader imo.

If youre looking to these guys as leaders it just shows the mess that Mowbray has left Celtic in. Keane is only there for a few more weeks, Loovens has yet to really convince and Hoiveld is still a pretty new arrival.

Feel sorry for Mowbray who seems to be a good man but he was a disaster as Celtic manager and had to go. Look at this quote from last night;"It's obviously not a great result but there were positive reasons why it was a negative result" and you see the words of a man who has truly lost the plot.

[Doogie Browser]

"It's obviously not a great result but there were positive reasons why it was a negative result" .

- that is a classic Partridge quote

[lynchbhoy]

I hope that is true, but the modern day soccer player doesnt seem to give that much of a f**k.

Keane is important, but imo hes a bit wishy washy and the harder leaders and MEN the likes of Hoiveld, loovens will be needed to drive them on, Keane will also play a part, but hes not really a leader imo.

If youre looking to these guys as leaders it just shows the mess that Mowbray has left Celtic in. Keane is only there for a few more weeks, Loovens has yet to really convince and Hoiveld is still a pretty new arrival.

Keane is Irish captain and is doing his damndest each game and will obv do so until he leaves, Loovens is a proven trier - pity hes always inj and by reputation Hoiveld is a leader and the bits I have seen of him at Celtic but mostly prev - he is the kind of man Celtic need , in the Mjallby mould.

[Myles Na G.]

Celtic aren't in a position to be too picky - this isn't a prestige job anymore. The Hoops have a huge fan base and a proud tradition, but that's about all. Playing in a graveyard league and with no money to attract top players, the only managers this job will appeal to are those on the way down, or those on the way up. (or those like Mowbray - on the way down without ever having been up in the first place). English championship clubs will offer better wages and a more competitive environment. With all that in mind, the best candidate on the list of possibles is Paul Lambert. Lennon and McGrain aren't long term candidates. McGrain has been a long time retired, yet has never strayed too far from Parkhead. Lack of inclination? Lack of ambition? Either way, he's not top manager material. The same could be applied to Lennon. Lambert has shown enough get up and go and potential so far to fall into the 'rising star' bracket. If that proves to be the case, Celts may get 2 or 3 years out of him before he moves on to the EPL. The stumbling block, as always, may be money. He may already be beyond Celtic's budget. One last thing: those responsible for appointing Mowbray should have the decency to follow him out the door. Their colossal stupidity has cost the club millions and set it back about 15 years.