The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Itchy]

A lot of people seem to think they know how Keane reacts inside the dressing room, how many of ye were actually in a dressing room with him? I put it to ye that this is based on the occassional anecdote coming out from a few players but that is hardly reflective of everything the man has done. If that were the case how did he get Sunderland from bottom 3 in championship to promotion and then stick a year in the premier league? I think you are all over simplifying the man and personally who ever walks into Celtic I want them to get rid of the wasters and the hangers on if they aren't willing to up their game.

I think Keane could be like yer man at Leeds, he just needs to get players in that reflect his approach to football and get rid of the primadonnas.

[John Egans left boot]

Brown owes club nothing. Stayed on a year too much but his contribution will be recognised by Celtic supporters for a long time.

Regarding Keano, I just don't see him progressing things. A blood and thunder man, once he takes the dressing room door off the hinges a few times, what's left.

The football industry is ran by (ruined by) players agents. A manager won't get away with the kind of verbal abuse Ferguson was famous for, and Keane so epitomises. The Bully Boy manager.

He will bawl players out, tell them how f**king useless they are, until that player and his agent throw a hissy fit, all of a sudden the dressing room is full of long faces.

It's a disaster waiting to happen...imo! Just because Gerrard has improved that other lot does not suggest for one second that Keane is probable to do the same with us.

Still Rafa and Mickey O Neill for me. Intelligent men who know football and get the best out of players.

Bannside you make decent points which I cant really counter.

In terms of Rafa would love it, but its not happening.

In terms of Micheal O Neill it is my understanding (Not through any great sources) that several candidates had informal initial discussion in the north west of England last week for 3 roles at the club. None of this will be progressed further at this stage.

As an aside Jamie Rednapp seeming to have a lot to do with this. I know he is close to DD son the one rumoured to be taking over as principal shareholder.

[JohnDenver]

Brown owes club nothing. Stayed on a year too much but his contribution will be recognised by Celtic supporters for a long time.

Regarding Keano, I just don't see him progressing things. A blood and thunder man, once he takes the dressing room door off the hinges a few times, what's left.

The football industry is ran by (ruined by) players agents. A manager won't get away with the kind of verbal abuse Ferguson was famous for, and Keane so epitomises. The Bully Boy manager.

He will bawl players out, tell them how f**king useless they are, until that player and his agent throw a hissy fit, all of a sudden the dressing room is full of long faces.

It's a disaster waiting to happen...imo! Just because Gerrard has improved that other lot does not suggest for one second that Keane is probable to do the same with us.

Still Rafa and Mickey O Neill for me. Intelligent men who know football and get the best out of players.

Bannside you make decent points which I cant really counter.

In terms of Rafa would love it, but its not happening.

In terms of Micheal O Neill it is my understanding (Not through any great sources) that several candidates had informal initial discussion in the north west of England last week for 3 roles at the club. None of this will be progressed further at this stage.

As an aside Jamie Rednapp seeming to have a lot to do with this. I know he is close to DD son the one rumoured to be taking over as principal shareholder.

Harry Redknapp in for some wheeling and dealing - although Niko Kranjčar and Jermaine Defoe are ruled out of the band. Peter Crouch could maybe still do a job

[Angelo]

Michael O'Neill has not really done much of note at Stoke.

The issue with a contracted manager too is that their contract will need to be bought out which could be significant in O'Neill's.

For anyone wanting Keane, I despair. Look at his managerial record - it's absolutely shocking - he spent a huge amount of money relative to the clubs he was at and left them in an absolute hovel a season or two later. That's not even before we look at his attitude, he would last 3 months before he'd lose the dressing room and resign.

There's nothing there tactically with him, there is nothing there with him that develops or improves players. He's a quitter, he will walk out on a team in a huff or when the going gets tough.

The only people who want Keane are the same people who idolised him as a player and probably defended the indefensible in Saipan.

Keane would be a rotten corrosive presence in a dressing room and does not seem to have any great tactical, coaching or management talent. He is the worst possible person for this job.

I'd take a Mark McGhee or John Hughes over him any day and we all know they are not up to the job.

[Milltown Row2]

Michael O'Neill has not really done much of note at Stoke.

The issue with a contracted manager too is that their contract will need to be bought out which could be significant in O'Neill's.

For anyone wanting Keane, I despair. Look at his managerial record - it's absolutely shocking - he spent a huge amount of money relative to the clubs he was at and left them in an absolute hovel a season or two later. That's not even before we look at his attitude, he would last 3 months before he'd lose the dressing room and resign.

There's nothing there tactically with him, there is nothing there with him that develops or improves players. He's a quitter, he will walk out on a team in a huff or when the going gets tough.

The only people who want Keane are the same people who idolised him as a player and probably defended the indefensible in Saipan.

Keane would be a rotten corrosive presence in a dressing room and does not seem to have any great tactical, coaching or management talent. He is the worst possible person for this job.

I'd take a Mark McGhee or John Hughes over him any day and we all know they are not up to the job.

Its a good thing you are not in management 

[bannside]

Interesting link between Dermot Desmond's son and Jamie Redknapp. I think I read somewhere, a long time back, that DD's main deciding factor in getting involved financially with Celtic was his sons passionate support. This same son I'd imagine who is getting primed to play the leading role.

Hopefully he surrounds himself with good people and may his first couple of appointments be good/lucky ones.

[Itchy]

Michael O'Neill has not really done much of note at Stoke.

The issue with a contracted manager too is that their contract will need to be bought out which could be significant in O'Neill's.

For anyone wanting Keane, I despair. Look at his managerial record - it's absolutely shocking - he spent a huge amount of money relative to the clubs he was at and left them in an absolute hovel a season or two later. That's not even before we look at his attitude, he would last 3 months before he'd lose the dressing room and resign.

There's nothing there tactically with him, there is nothing there with him that develops or improves players. He's a quitter, he will walk out on a team in a huff or when the going gets tough.

The only people who want Keane are the same people who idolised him as a player and probably defended the indefensible in Saipan.

Keane would be a rotten corrosive presence in a dressing room and does not seem to have any great tactical, coaching or management talent. He is the worst possible person for this job.

I'd take a Mark McGhee or John Hughes over him any day and we all know they are not up to the job.

His management record is not "shocking", I would describe it as mixed - he got manager of the year in his first season with Sunderland for example. I think it is also reasonable to think he has learned from his first 3 roles in management. There is no point going over board like you are doing here. If he gets the job give him a bloody chance.

[Angelo]

Michael O'Neill has not really done much of note at Stoke.

The issue with a contracted manager too is that their contract will need to be bought out which could be significant in O'Neill's.

For anyone wanting Keane, I despair. Look at his managerial record - it's absolutely shocking - he spent a huge amount of money relative to the clubs he was at and left them in an absolute hovel a season or two later. That's not even before we look at his attitude, he would last 3 months before he'd lose the dressing room and resign.

There's nothing there tactically with him, there is nothing there with him that develops or improves players. He's a quitter, he will walk out on a team in a huff or when the going gets tough.

The only people who want Keane are the same people who idolised him as a player and probably defended the indefensible in Saipan.

Keane would be a rotten corrosive presence in a dressing room and does not seem to have any great tactical, coaching or management talent. He is the worst possible person for this job.

I'd take a Mark McGhee or John Hughes over him any day and we all know they are not up to the job.

His management record is not "shocking", I would describe it as mixed - he got manager of the year in his first season with Sunderland for example. I think it is also reasonable to think he has learned from his first 3 roles in management. There is no point going over board like you are doing here. If he gets the job give him a bloody chance.

It is shocking.

Look at the mess he left both clubs he has managed in, over a decade ago.

Think he signed 50+ players in over 2 years at Sunderland and around 30+ at Ipswich.

Ended up losing the dressing room in both cases and as I said that is over a decade ago.

Well done on getting manager of the year in the Championship after taking over a team who dropped down from the top flight and being bankrolled and signing 20 players in his first season.


Only a Keane fanboy could defend his managerial record. He is clueless and a bully. His style of management left in the 1990s.

[Itchy]

OK Angelo, you are right.

I look forward to you trying to hound him out of a job before a ball has been kicked.

[Milltown Row2]

OK Angelo, you are right.

I look forward to you trying to hound him out of a job before a ball has been kicked.

Hasn't even got the job lol... 4/6 or 1/2 is good pricing all the same

[Angelo]

OK Angelo, you are right.

I look forward to you trying to hound him out of a job before a ball has been kicked.

It's inevitable.

He's not up to the job.

[Applesisapples]

Desmond is staking a lot on Roy Keane. The bottom line is Celtic is not as big a draw at the moment many fans think. Keane may not work out but lets see. On Scott Brown: It was not his fault that Lennon used him too much, but nothing should take away from the job he has done as captain. A player who knew his abilities and his limits and maximised them to good effect.

[Angelo]

Desmond is staking a lot on Roy Keane. The bottom line is Celtic is not as big a draw at the moment many fans think.

It's a bigger draw than a guy who has not managed over the past decade and whose last job was as an assistant manager at Nottingham Forest.

It's a bigger draw than a guy whose two previous jobs saw him sacked at Bolton and Hibs.

So let's tone done the " not a big draw" line for excusing the appointment of woefully unqualified candidate because they have some Celtic/Irish link.

Jesse Marsch publicly came out and expressed in interest in the job and talked about what an opportunity it would be and he's very much a highly rated and respected manager across European circles right. He's infinitely more qualified than the likes of Keane or Kennedy but Desmond doesn't seem too bothered about opening talks with him.

[Estimator]

I'd suggest both clubs you're referring to were a mess before Keane got his hands on them... Sunderland definitely were!
But if you compare his win percentage with other Sunderland managers since Peter Reid* left he is 4th on the list. Which is the same position he is in with Ipswich town managers since George Burley* left. Both clubs have gone through plenty of full time and caretakers in the last 20years.
Other managers faired much worse.

*Using those two as they were synonymous with the clubs in late 90's / early '00.

**This isn't an endorsement for Keane to be the new Celtic Manager**

[John Egans left boot]

Desmond is staking a lot on Roy Keane. The bottom line is Celtic is not as big a draw at the moment many fans think. Keane may not work out but lets see. On Scott Brown: It was not his fault that Lennon used him too much, but nothing should take away from the job he has done as captain. A player who knew his abilities and his limits and maximised them to good effect.

You make an excellent point. Celtic isn't a big draw for many managers. Yes they have the potential to be a half a billion pound club in the future, but in the league their in and the tv rights etc that's not the case presently. Any manager would love to manage Celtic but in totally different circumstances than currently they find themselves within . The club is but t a stepping stone to bigger things..unfortunately