The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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Milltown Row2

Michael O'Neill would be the best bet, had West Ham not be having the season they are having then Moyes would have been decent also.
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2021, 08:49:32 AM
Michael O'Neill would be the best bet, had West Ham not be having the season they are having then Moyes would have been decent also.

Michelle O'Neill could be good. Ticks a lot of boxes.

general_lee

I agree with itchy. I'd like Roy Keane at Celtic. When you think of all the shit players got criticised for this season - Keane would stamp that out. There'd be no favourites, no ill-discipline, no complacency. Instil a bit of professionalism back into the squad. I'd also imagine a few boys would be shown the door. 

Angelo

Wouldn't have Keane anywhere near Celtic.

FFS the guy failed at Sunderland and Ipswich. The last manager we had was ran out of Hibs and Bolton.

It's very clear the type of manager we need.

We need a guy who has a track record of coming in and developing players, who has a defined style of play that reflects dominating possession and is someone who is both very clued in tactically and relentless on the training ground. Roy Keane is none of those.

Roy Keane is just name, a guy with a big reputation due to his playing days but who has an appalling track record as a coach. His legacy is Sunderland are now a debt ridden League One club. Failed at Ipswich, mass fallings out with players.

What other clubs do you see looking to offer Roy Keane a job in management? For good reason clubs would not touch him with a bargepole.

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general_lee

Don't worry Angelo I don't think Keane would touch Celtic with a barge pole either

JimStynes

Quote from: Angelo on February 26, 2021, 11:22:06 AM
Wouldn't have Keane anywhere near Celtic.

FFS the guy failed at Sunderland and Ipswich. The last manager we had was ran out of Hibs and Bolton.

It's very clear the type of manager we need.

We need a guy who has a track record of coming in and developing players, who has a defined style of play that reflects dominating possession and is someone who is both very clued in tactically and relentless on the training ground. Roy Keane is none of those.

Roy Keane is just name, a guy with a big reputation due to his playing days but who has an appalling track record as a coach. His legacy is Sunderland are now a debt ridden League One club. Failed at Ipswich, mass fallings out with players.

What other clubs do you see looking to offer Roy Keane a job in management? For good reason clubs would not touch him with a bargepole.

I totally agree with Angelo on this one. Roy Keane can't man manage players. He would fall out with half the players after about 3 months.

JimStynes

Quote from: general_lee on February 26, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
Don't worry Angelo I don't think Keane would touch Celtic with a barge pole either

I'd say he would take the hand off you for the job. He's not exactly turning down lots of offers at the minute either.

bannside

Keane not the man in my opinion. Mickey O Neill for me, but would he leave Stoke. Maybe if he was under pressure,  but that doesn't seem to be the case. Good guy, intelligent, cool head.

I'd have Rafa above him, for some reason I get a feeling Celtic would suit him. Doesn't need the massive money, got £12m in his job at China. Would love the challenge of getting Celtic back to the top, and some big European nights.

Angelo

Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2021, 11:45:47 AM
Keane not the man in my opinion. Mickey O Neill for me, but would he leave Stoke. Maybe if he was under pressure,  but that doesn't seem to be the case. Good guy, intelligent, cool head.

I'd have Rafa above him, for some reason I get a feeling Celtic would suit him. Doesn't need the massive money, got £12m in his job at China. Would love the challenge of getting Celtic back to the top, and some big European nights.

Would he leave Stoke?

FFS.

If Celtic are willing to buy out his contract and match his terms at Stoke, he'd be up the road in a heartbeat.

It would cost Celtic about £5m to release him from his contract though and I can't see Celtic doing that for a manager when there are currently a number of very qualified managers without a job at present.
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Itchy

Quote from: Angelo on February 26, 2021, 12:03:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 26, 2021, 11:45:47 AM
Keane not the man in my opinion. Mickey O Neill for me, but would he leave Stoke. Maybe if he was under pressure,  but that doesn't seem to be the case. Good guy, intelligent, cool head.

I'd have Rafa above him, for some reason I get a feeling Celtic would suit him. Doesn't need the massive money, got £12m in his job at China. Would love the challenge of getting Celtic back to the top, and some big European nights.

Would he leave Stoke?

FFS.

If Celtic are willing to buy out his contract and match his terms at Stoke, he'd be up the road in a heartbeat.

It would cost Celtic about £5m to release him from his contract though and I can't see Celtic doing that for a manager when there are currently a number of very qualified managers without a job at present.

Keane got Sunderland into Premier League, held them there for a season and he is described as a failure. Tell me what has Michael O Neill done at Stoke? And i think cos he got on bad at Stoke doesnt make him a poor manager either by the way.


sid waddell

Liverpool and Newcastle are quite similar to Celtic in terms of their fanbases and the general culture around the clubs and the cities they come from

Newcastle's similarity in terms of it being a sort of smaller version of Liverpool was what attracted Rafa to it

Napoli was too

In a similar way, Liverpool was always a natural fit for Klopp given he'd been a massive success at Dortmund

Celtic do have something that I think would appeal to Rafa on a sort of emotional level

Leeds were able to attract Bielsa because he knew that club had something, a history and a passion and a potential that belied its then lowly status

But it's questionable whether Rafa would see such potential in Celtic given they're trapped in a diddy league

You need something more than an emotional pull to attract a manager of that calibre

Rafa would want cash to spend

general_lee

I'd like Rafa or Keane. Maybe Keane as Rafa's no2!

sid waddell


Angelo

Fergal Harkin - loan manager at Man City
David Webb - former executive with Spurs, Bournemouth and Huddersfield
Mario Tognozzi - chief scout at Juve

They are supposedly the three candidates linked with the new director of football role. I think it's a good move in the long run, Lawwell had far too much say and control at Celtic over the past decade, it was effectively a dictatorship.

This model works effectively with a training ground focused manager, someone who is tactically astute and with a track record of bringing players on and developing them.

We've had some good success in recent years with youth team players, McGregor, Forrest, Tierney etc all establishing them as first team regulars. All three made huge progress under Rodgers. It's interesting the amount of youth team players we lost since Lennon came into the job.

Morrison and Hepburn left for Bayern
Allan went to Man City

Would they have left had Rodgers still been there?

Looks like Dembele will also move on shortly too. Bar Welsh and Hazard who were only thrust in due to emergencies we have had no real youth team player development. Johnston had already established himself under Rodgers.

This is the model that is best suited to Celtic at the minute, bring players through, develop them and then hawk them down to English clubs for mass profits and reinvest that money back in. We've done a half arsed version of this in the past - we brought players through, developed them and then sold them on the cheap to the EPL at the first attempt with Lawwell trousering the money.

We need to be firm on our valuations of players this time, we need to put the money into tying them down on contracts so they not sold on the cheap and we need to reinvest any money from this straight back into the first team.

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Angelo

Very interesting admission from journalist Stephen McGowan today. It's also worth nothing that McGowan is the most reliable journalist out there with Celtic and usually the first to break the transfer stories.

"The one that sums it up best is Ivan Toney, who they had in Glasgow, actually in the building – who wanted to sign for Celtic and they could have got for £6 million. For whatever reason, probably financial, they decided not to commit and signed Ajeti."

Toney is currently top scorer in the Championship this season with 24 goals. Ajeti has looked fat, awkward and disinterested this season.
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