The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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JimStynes

Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 11, 2021, 04:24:05 PM
Lennon should have been gone by halloween. The implosion from Rangers didn't happen and their form in Europe and the league has been brilliant. It's depressing looking at the league table and the games feel like friendly matches now with nothing to play for. A complete shit show of a season.

The reason their league form hasn't collapsed is that they have been playing pressure free. Celtic have crumbled at every point and left it open for a procession through.

Had we been able to sustain pressure on them I would foresee many more dropped points.

Of course but when Celtic were dropping points Rangers kept on winning. Everyone thought they'd slip up eventually and it never happened. Celtic cracked under the pressure if anything. Due to bad management and some players downing tools.

Angelo

Quote from: JimStynes on February 11, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 11, 2021, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on February 11, 2021, 04:24:05 PM
Lennon should have been gone by halloween. The implosion from Rangers didn't happen and their form in Europe and the league has been brilliant. It's depressing looking at the league table and the games feel like friendly matches now with nothing to play for. A complete shit show of a season.

The reason their league form hasn't collapsed is that they have been playing pressure free. Celtic have crumbled at every point and left it open for a procession through.

Had we been able to sustain pressure on them I would foresee many more dropped points.

Of course but when Celtic were dropping points Rangers kept on winning. Everyone thought they'd slip up eventually and it never happened. Celtic cracked under the pressure if anything. Due to bad management and some players downing tools.

Celtic didn't crack under pressure for me. It's just part of a poor setup. It's easy to win when the pressure is off. If Ranger drop points in a couple of their next matches then it does leave the door ajar for some pressure to be applied and to see how they handle the heat. 2 Celtic wins in the derby claws 6 points back so if they could get that lead down to maybe 9 or 10 points by the time the teams face of on the 21st of March then it does raise some doubts.

A miracle is needed but I've always felt there is a big collapse in Rangers, even after the defeat in January I still felt it was salvagable if we cut our ties with Lennon then.

Look at last season. After beating Celtic in the derby, they then proceeded to drop 13 points in the next 10 games, none of which were against Celtic.

They have 10 games left so a similar return more than opens the door for Celtic. Celtic need a minimum of 15 dropped points in Rangers next 30 but they can account for 6 of those themselves.

I know it's clutching at straws but it's probably what makes the whole thing more frustrating in that the board ruined it because they didn't want to be seen to be taking action due to fan pressure.
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sid waddell

Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country


Angelo

Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
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sid waddell

Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News




Angelo

Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
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JimStynes

Angelo taking another beating in here tonight again ffs.

sid waddell

Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
Really? I'm actually a supporter of Celtic who has gone over to see them play several times, as far back as the double season of 1988

My father was a lifelong Celtic supporter too

Unlike you though I don't seek to airbrush the truth about a matter as serious as paedophilia

Your weasel words smack of a serious sickness of the mind


Angelo

Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
Really? I'm actually a supporter of Celtic who has gone over to see them play several times, as far back as the double season of 1988

My father was a lifelong Celtic supporter too

Unlike you though I don't seek to airbrush the truth about a matter as serious as paedophilia

Your weasel words smack of a serious sickness of the mind

My weasel words?

I've said it's wrong.

But I do think you trying to use victims of child abuse as a vehicle to exercise your own personal agenda is very petty and crass.

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sid waddell

Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
Really? I'm actually a supporter of Celtic who has gone over to see them play several times, as far back as the double season of 1988

My father was a lifelong Celtic supporter too

Unlike you though I don't seek to airbrush the truth about a matter as serious as paedophilia

Your weasel words smack of a serious sickness of the mind

My weasel words?

I've said it's wrong.

But I do think you trying to use victims of child abuse as a vehicle to exercise your own personal agenda is very petty and crass.
Sure by your logic anybody who ever referenced paedophilia in the Catholic Church or any other setting was only doing so for a personal agenda, for bad faith reasons

The bottom line is all you're interested in doing in relation to this case is silencing the voices of victims of paedophilia, and the voices of anybody who highlights abuse and institutional failure and closing of ranks - which Celtic are absolutely guilty of here - for years they denied a connection between Celtic Boys Club and Celtic Football Club

You do this to try protect and an institution and clearly desire a closing of ranks, as did Celtic Football Club

Why do you do this? Because you're down the rabbit hole of obsessive internet persona compulsive disorder

As a bad faith position that's as bad as it gets

And it says a hell of a lot about you, doesn't it

None of it good




restorepride

Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
Really? I'm actually a supporter of Celtic who has gone over to see them play several times, as far back as the double season of 1988

My father was a lifelong Celtic supporter too

Unlike you though I don't seek to airbrush the truth about a matter as serious as paedophilia

Your weasel words smack of a serious sickness of the mind

My weasel words?

I've said it's wrong.

But I do think you trying to use victims of child abuse as a vehicle to exercise your own personal agenda is very petty and crass.
Sure by your logic anybody who ever referenced paedophilia in the Catholic Church or any other setting was only doing so for a personal agenda, for bad faith reasons

The bottom line is all you're interested in doing in relation to this case is silencing the voices of victims of paedophilia, and the voices of anybody who highlights abuse and institutional failure and closing of ranks - which Celtic are absolutely guilty of here - for years they denied a connection between Celtic Boys Club and Celtic Football Club

You do this to try protect and an institution and clearly desire a closing of ranks, as did Celtic Football Club

Why do you do this? Because you're down the rabbit hole of obsessive internet persona compulsive disorder

As a bad faith position that's as bad as it gets

And it says a hell of a lot about you, doesn't it

None of it good
Your lack of full stops is

Angelo

Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:27:56 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 10:15:33 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Angelo on February 12, 2021, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 09:09:02 PM
Surprised there's been no mention of the report into paedophilia in Scottish football being released yesterday

You'd think the forum's self-appointed Celtic superfan would have been all over this, especially given that Celtic came out of it by far the worst of any Scottish club

But no

Really does smack of the sort of institutional cover up we saw from the Catholic Church in this country

Of course it was shameful.

Trying to score points however about child abuse over a football club is not the contribution of a balanced individual.

It's Daily Mail type tactics from a Daily Mail type poster.
Well actually I'm going by the Channel 4 News report - Channel 4 News is the best television news programme in the UK a considerable distance

They were pretty categorical that of any Scottish club, the report was by far the most damning for Celtic

But I suppose you'll now dismiss Channel 4 News

I'm just referencing you using the victims of child abuse as a vehicle to carry out your personal grievances.

I don't think it's what a balanced individual would do.
Really? I'm actually a supporter of Celtic who has gone over to see them play several times, as far back as the double season of 1988

My father was a lifelong Celtic supporter too

Unlike you though I don't seek to airbrush the truth about a matter as serious as paedophilia

Your weasel words smack of a serious sickness of the mind

My weasel words?

I've said it's wrong.

But I do think you trying to use victims of child abuse as a vehicle to exercise your own personal agenda is very petty and crass.
Sure by your logic anybody who ever referenced paedophilia in the Catholic Church or any other setting was only doing so for a personal agenda, for bad faith reasons

The bottom line is all you're interested in doing in relation to this case is silencing the voices of victims of paedophilia, and the voices of anybody who highlights abuse and institutional failure and closing of ranks - which Celtic are absolutely guilty of here - for years they denied a connection between Celtic Boys Club and Celtic Football Club

You do this to try protect and an institution and clearly desire a closing of ranks, as did Celtic Football Club

Why do you do this? Because you're down the rabbit hole of obsessive internet persona compulsive disorder

As a bad faith position that's as bad as it gets

And it says a hell of a lot about you, doesn't it

None of it good

I've already said it's wrong. I've not defended it. So unless you are I don't understand your ire here.

Conversely it would seem you are using child abuse victims as a proxy to exercise petty personal grievances, which is very crass. My views on the current stewardship of Celtic Football Club are well known, I think Lawwell, Desmond, Bankier and co were reprehensible and should go. I think having a war criminal like John Reid involved in the club was disgraceful.

So maybe we should agree on that but I think your real reasons for inflaming this are anything but genuine or sincere.
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sid waddell

You don't want the subject of paedophilia at Celtic and other clubs raised

That's closing of ranks - just like the apologists for paedophilia in the Catholic Church

Sweep sweep

Bet if it was, oh, let's say, a rugby coach in Terenure, you wouldn't take that attitude

That's because you only see paedophilia that has taken place in sporting settings as a chance to weaponise personal grievances

You don't actually give a f**k about victims of paedophilia or the crime of paedophilia itself




restorepride

Quote from: sid waddell on February 13, 2021, 12:50:00 AM
You don't want the subject of paedophilia at Celtic and other clubs raised

That's closing of ranks - just like the apologists for paedophilia in the Catholic Church

Sweep sweep

Bet if it was, oh, let's say, a rugby coach in Terenure, you wouldn't take that attitude

That's because you only see paedophilia that has taken place in sporting settings as a chance to weaponise personal grievances

You don't actually give a f**k about victims of paedophilia or the crime of paedophilia itself
Your lack of full stops is still