The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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JimStynes

Quote from: Orior on February 02, 2021, 09:33:44 PM
4-0 is not too shabby.

Some use doing it now. Eddie played well but he just doesn't look bothered. About the 15th time this season thst I've said I'm not watching them again.

Main Street

Even a lacklustre Eddy is a diamond in the rough, about the only thing worth watching in that game.

general_lee

Quote from: Angelo on February 02, 2021, 08:47:16 PM
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Quote from: Angelo on February 01, 2021, 08:01:58 PM
Why is someone like Ancelotti managing Everton?
Aye what manager wouldn't want to ply his trade in the biggest league in the world with a top club with genuine champions league ambitions, plenty of money and a decent squad

Biggest league in the world nonsense.

The only reason Ancelotti is there is because Everton are paying him £11.5m. It's nothing to do with playing for mid table mediocrity in an overhyped league. It's about money.

If Celtic pay a top manager the going rate then the top manager will go for them.

I don't think we can afford Ancelotti but we could certainly afford one of the managers I named above.

Everton do not have genuine CL ambitions. If Ancelotti has CL ambitions and winning trophies then Celtic are a bigger draw.
You are quite literally the most contrary person I've ever met. I explicitly mentioned money and in your retort tell me it's about money! And also, How the f**k do Everton not have CL ambitions? They're 6 points off 4th place with 2 games in hand. They're hardly paying Ancelotti to get them a top 8 finish. You're the epitome of a Celtic da with your delusions. Celtic are not a bigger draw than any top 10 premier league side and never will be!

Because they won't qualify. They will finish 15 points behind the places and probably miss out on the Europa League.

I'll give you 11.5m reasons why Ancelotti is at Everton and none of them are to do with CL football.
Do tell why they're paying him that much to manage them. I can't believe you are suggesting Everton don't have their sights on a champions league place.

Because it's the EPL.

Do you think they will get CL football? Do you really think Ancelotti is there for anything other than 11.5m per year?
I think they are aiming for it. I think a club paying someone £11.5m is the sign that they have ambitions to reach the CL. Whether I think they will actually finish top 4 is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Angelo

Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2021, 11:12:53 PM
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Quote from: Angelo on February 01, 2021, 08:01:58 PM
Why is someone like Ancelotti managing Everton?
Aye what manager wouldn't want to ply his trade in the biggest league in the world with a top club with genuine champions league ambitions, plenty of money and a decent squad

Biggest league in the world nonsense.

The only reason Ancelotti is there is because Everton are paying him £11.5m. It's nothing to do with playing for mid table mediocrity in an overhyped league. It's about money.

If Celtic pay a top manager the going rate then the top manager will go for them.

I don't think we can afford Ancelotti but we could certainly afford one of the managers I named above.

Everton do not have genuine CL ambitions. If Ancelotti has CL ambitions and winning trophies then Celtic are a bigger draw.
You are quite literally the most contrary person I've ever met. I explicitly mentioned money and in your retort tell me it's about money! And also, How the f**k do Everton not have CL ambitions? They're 6 points off 4th place with 2 games in hand. They're hardly paying Ancelotti to get them a top 8 finish. You're the epitome of a Celtic da with your delusions. Celtic are not a bigger draw than any top 10 premier league side and never will be!

Because they won't qualify. They will finish 15 points behind the places and probably miss out on the Europa League.

I'll give you 11.5m reasons why Ancelotti is at Everton and none of them are to do with CL football.
Do tell why they're paying him that much to manage them. I can't believe you are suggesting Everton don't have their sights on a champions league place.

Because it's the EPL.

Do you think they will get CL football? Do you really think Ancelotti is there for anything other than 11.5m per year?
I think they are aiming for it. I think a club paying someone £11.5m is the sign that they have ambitions to reach the CL. Whether I think they will actually finish top 4 is completely and utterly irrelevant.

I'm on about Ancelotti.

Do you think he's there for CL football? I'll give you 11.5m reasons he is at Everton.

Ancelotti earned €6m at Napoli, a few months after he is sacked he is offered a contract worth double that at Everton.
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general_lee

I'd bet my mortgage that before he signed the contract, CL qualification was discussed. Why are they paying him £11.5m? To finish top 8?

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1194713/

Angelo

Quote from: general_lee on February 03, 2021, 11:04:27 AM
I'd bet my mortgage that before he signed the contract, CL qualification was discussed. Why are they paying him £11.5m? To finish top 8?

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1194713/

I bet before he signed that contract £11.5m was demanded.

Everton have paid a manager double what he was getting at his previous club a few months before he was sacked from there? Why would they do that?

It's the same reason players go to China - money talks.

There is no allure in playing for a West Ham, Crystal Palace, Everton or Brighton. You've been watching too much Sky Sports if you think there is.

Yer man Haller at West Ham took a £40k paycut to join Ajax from West Ham.

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general_lee

I'm not disputing that. Of course money talks. But to say Everton don't have ambitions of CL qualification is ridiculous. Those clubs are all still more appealing than Celtic.

Angelo

Quote from: general_lee on February 03, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
I'm not disputing that. Of course money talks. But to say Everton don't have ambitions of CL qualification is ridiculous. Those clubs are all still more appealing than Celtic.

Absolute horseshit.

Celtic are in the CL qualifying rounds for the last 9 years, qualified for them 3 years ago. I can't remember Everton being in the CL in my lifetime, can you?

Of clubs with CL ambitions, Celtic have far more than Everton.

The only thing that makes those clubs appealing is the salary on offer. The Celtic job looks appealing to any manager if you put a £11.5m salary on the table so let's cut this horseshit about managing or playing for Everton, Crystal Palace or West Ham as being an attractive option, the only thing attractive about mid table mediocrity and the EPL is the salaries on offer.

If you believe the horseshit about the EPL attracting players for anything other than money then you have been brainwashed by Sky Sports.

Do you think Rafa Benitez was wooed to the Chinese Superleague for anything other than a £12m salary?
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Louther

This has to be the most strange counter argument ever.

If Everton don't have CL ambitions why are they paying a man with proven CL pedigree £11.5m per year. They paying one of the top 5 earners in the PL a CL salary? Why? To stay up? To get mid table?

They've backed him in transfer market too - all to go after a CL spot. It's not rocket science. They looking to make a breakthrough - they see Arsenal on the slide, Spurs missing out, Leicester challenging and United been inconsistent.

Of course they see CL football as an ambition. Or they could just pay Eddie Howe or Sean Dyche 3m to keep them up.

Celtic get a free shot at Europe and CL every year - it's not ambition, it's a freebie. Other clubs like Everton have to go and get it, by paying one of the top European managers they going for it.

And fair play to you for speaking for all EPL payers and the reasons they play in EPL. Disgusting that they actually consider the financial impact on their decision to play there. The lure of away nights in middle of January to play St Mirren for a fraction of the money should be what proper honest individuals would do.

Angelo

Quote from: Louther on February 03, 2021, 12:35:15 PM
This has to be the most strange counter argument ever.

If Everton don't have CL ambitions why are they paying a man with proven CL pedigree £11.5m per year. They paying one of the top 5 earners in the PL a CL salary? Why? To stay up? To get mid table?

They've backed him in transfer market too - all to go after a CL spot. It's not rocket science. They looking to make a breakthrough - they see Arsenal on the slide, Spurs missing out, Leicester challenging and United been inconsistent.

Of course they see CL football as an ambition. Or they could just pay Eddie Howe or Sean Dyche 3m to keep them up.

Celtic get a free shot at Europe and CL every year - it's not ambition, it's a freebie. Other clubs like Everton have to go and get it, by paying one of the top European managers they going for it.

And fair play to you for speaking for all EPL payers and the reasons they play in EPL. Disgusting that they actually consider the financial impact on their decision to play there. The lure of away nights in middle of January to play St Mirren for a fraction of the money should be what proper honest individuals would do.

I think you failed to grasp the fundamental point - Ancelotti is not at Everton for CL ambitions, he is there for £11.5m and to go and dispute that is preposterous.

Ancelotti would not need £11.5m to manage a club with CL ambitions. He was managing Napoli who had the same ambition for half the rate a few months earlier before he was sacked.

He took the Everton job on the basis of the paypacket, not the aspirations of the club. If he is taking a job on on the basis of CL aspirations then Celtic have a run at it every year.

Do you think Rafa Benitez took a job in China because he always wanted to work in Chinese football or was it a £12m salary that motivated him?
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Jeepers Creepers

Ancelotti could have got that same pay packet anywhere in the world.

Angelo

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2021, 12:45:28 PM
Ancelotti could have got that same pay packet anywhere in the world.

Why couldn't he get it at Napoli? He was sacked in his last two jobs.
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Louther

Your point is mute.

Are we talking about Ancelottis ambitions or Everton's? It Everton's call what their ambitions are.

If you think he is motivated by money, you're rather clueless. He doesn't need money, he takes the going rate, like everyone else does when they take a job. The more high profile and expectations of the job, the higher the pay. It's not going to turn down what's been offered. Like Benitez in China.

Angelo

Quote from: Louther on February 03, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
Your point is mute.

Are we talking about Ancelottis ambitions or Everton's? It Everton's call what their ambitions are.

If you think he is motivated by money, you're rather clueless. He doesn't need money, he takes the going rate, like everyone else does when they take a job. The more high profile and expectations of the job, the higher the pay. It's not going to turn down what's been offered. Like Benitez in China.

We are talking about Ancelotti's ambition.

He's not at Everton for anything other than £11.5m.

Everton are a nothing club like 75% of the EPL which is why EPL clubs pay a premium to get talent to go to their clubs.

To think that people are attracted to the EPL for anything other than the money is just pure Sky Sports brainwashing.
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Louther

Ok then. If Everton and half the EPL are nothing clubs then The SPL must be 3 levels below that.

Why do 99% of the clubs on all leagues bother?

Why do players play if they not at the top clubs?

Regardless, no manager at his level or any PL ambition is going to Celtic. Best you'll get Eddie Howe looking to do what Rodgers did and get himself back in shop window.