The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[JimStynes]

Angelo your view of Celtic is seriously inflated. What gives Celtic the right to think they're even in the same bracket as Ajax. Massive support world wide due to the Irish link but no where near the same footballing prestige as Ajax. It will remain the same until they're out of the Scottish league.

My view of Celtic is not inflated. You seem to view Celtic as some tinpot club, we are not. We are ran like one though by an executive who trousers the money we make from selling our best players.

What is apparent is that the Armagh lads on here and their views are completely out of touch with the vast majority of Celtic fans. If you go on to the club's twitter account and look at the comments below the announcement you will realise the deep disdain that is held for Lawwell and how he has mismanaged the club. The vast, vast majority of comments are utterly, utterly scathing of the man.

On here you have a load of lads who seem more worried about how a local lad and his acquaintacnes are looked after than the football club itself.

You guys are completely out of touch and you're embarrassing yourselves defending this shit.

I'm not from Armagh 
Also, go have a look at Ajax's history and the players they've had over the years and compare them to Celtic. Celtic are a big club but they've nowhere near the history of success that Ajax have had. I want PL and Neil Lennon sacked and you go back through my post history and see I've been saying that for the last number of years. But the only man who is embarrassing himself is you, on multiple threads. #angeloout

What history have Ajax had over the years haven't had.

Both clubs don't play in big leagues.
Have 50k seater stadiums.
Have big European traditions.

Celtic and Ajax have featured in the same number of European finals in the past 20 years.

I think you don't know much about the history of either club to be spouting such nonsense.

What's Celtic big European tradition?

Champions League winners.


What's Ajax big European tradition?

4 champions leagues wins, 1 uefa cup, 1 cup winners cup and a 3 or 4 final appearances. A semi final appearance in CL not so long ago as well. Plus the those super cups if you want to include those. They've had players like Cruyff, Van Basten, Bergkamp, Ibrahimovic, Davids, Seedorf, overmars, Kluivert and many more superstar footballers come through their ranks and they keep producing them. Celtic are as big in terms of support but let's not fool ourselves into comparing the football achievements with them.

[JimStynes]

Teams like Villa and Red Star have also won a champions league. Big traditions!

[Angelo]

Angelo your view of Celtic is seriously inflated. What gives Celtic the right to think they're even in the same bracket as Ajax. Massive support world wide due to the Irish link but no where near the same footballing prestige as Ajax. It will remain the same until they're out of the Scottish league.

My view of Celtic is not inflated. You seem to view Celtic as some tinpot club, we are not. We are ran like one though by an executive who trousers the money we make from selling our best players.

What is apparent is that the Armagh lads on here and their views are completely out of touch with the vast majority of Celtic fans. If you go on to the club's twitter account and look at the comments below the announcement you will realise the deep disdain that is held for Lawwell and how he has mismanaged the club. The vast, vast majority of comments are utterly, utterly scathing of the man.

On here you have a load of lads who seem more worried about how a local lad and his acquaintacnes are looked after than the football club itself.

You guys are completely out of touch and you're embarrassing yourselves defending this shit.

I'm not from Armagh 
Also, go have a look at Ajax's history and the players they've had over the years and compare them to Celtic. Celtic are a big club but they've nowhere near the history of success that Ajax have had. I want PL and Neil Lennon sacked and you go back through my post history and see I've been saying that for the last number of years. But the only man who is embarrassing himself is you, on multiple threads. #angeloout

What history have Ajax had over the years haven't had.

Both clubs don't play in big leagues.
Have 50k seater stadiums.
Have big European traditions.

Celtic and Ajax have featured in the same number of European finals in the past 20 years.

I think you don't know much about the history of either club to be spouting such nonsense.

What's Celtic big European tradition?

Champions League winners.


What's Ajax big European tradition?

4 champions leagues wins, 1 uefa cup, 1 cup winners cup and a 3 or 4 final appearances. A semi final appearance in CL not so long ago as well. Plus the those super cups if you want to include those. They've had players like Cruyff, Van Basten, Bergkamp, Ibrahimovic, Davids, Seedorf, overmars, Kluivert and many more superstar footballers come through their ranks and they keep producing them. Celtic are as big in terms of support but let's not fool ourselves into comparing the football achievements with them.

Ajax are very similar to Celtic, a real example of what Celtic could be now. Ajax won three CLs in a row in the 70s, Have not done a whole pile since. We have been in the same number of UEFA/Europa finals in the past 20 years.


We have had plenty of players in our ranks lately that are showing up at a high level. Dembele recently enjoying Atletico Madrid, Tierney at Arsenal, Van Dijk at Liverpool etc.

The difference is Celtic have been railroaded by a board who will scupper transfer deals trying to short Hibs for a few hundred grand, will lose the best manager they've had in 20 years because the bonuses of the CEO is more important than backing the manager with the funds he deserves. Hopefully now Lawwell is gone it's a sign that things are about to change at this club.

[Milltown Row2]

Teams like Villa and Red Star have also won a champions league. Big traditions!

Forrest too!

I hope he gets a big pay out from the club when he goes as he well deserves that for the record Celtic have achieved over the period he's been CEO. 29 trophies is some going, can't judge a man on one poor enough season.

I think people are getting clouded that Rangers are 20 odd points in front and Celtic may struggle for second place. The 10 in a row brigade are livid, but Celtic will no doubt bounce back and be competitive again, or hope Rangers have some more tax problems and be turfed out again.

[Angelo]

Villa and Red Star ARE big clubs.

Jim Stynes seems to be of the Little Englander variety who thinks clubs with loads of money and little tradition are big clubs.

[JimStynes]

Villa and Red Star ARE big clubs.

Jim Stynes seems to be of the Little Englander variety who thinks clubs with loads of money and little tradition are big clubs.

Oh aye. Massive clubs. When I think of champions league tradition I think of Celtic, Madrid and Villa. You're embarrassing yourself. Deluded.

[Angelo]

Villa and Red Star ARE big clubs.

Jim Stynes seems to be of the Little Englander variety who thinks clubs with loads of money and little tradition are big clubs.

Oh aye. Massive clubs. When I think of champions league tradition I think of Celtic, Madrid and Villa. You're embarrassing yourself. Deluded.

I do.

As I said, maybe you're 14 and rely on Jamie Redknapp and "Carra" to get your views on football but people who actually know football know how big a club Celtic are. Sadly a lot of players these days make their transfer moves solely on financial incentives.

[tonto1888]

Nobody can deny how good a job Lawell done at Celtic. In a business sense. Sadly this came at the expense of our progress in Europe and in a football sense ok general. I think that is where the dislike of Lawell has come in. Also the boards failure to really act over the whole rangers thing made a lot of people distrust him. And heated driveways

[Angelo]

Nobody can deny how good a job Lawell done at Celtic. In a business sense. Sadly this came at the expense of our progress in Europe and in a football sense ok general. I think that is where the dislike of Lawell has come in. Also the boards failure to really act over the whole rangers thing made a lot of people distrust him. And heated driveways

On what metric did Lawwell do a good job?

In terms of making profits for the board and shareholders?

Because it certainly wasn't anything on the football pitch. He took over the season after Seville.

On the football pitch we saw 17 years of austerity and record profits and bonuses at the corporate level. He chased away Rodgers who had been the best thing that happened to Celtic since O'Neill (who he was also guilty of chasing).

[marty34]

One season out of so many great ones and the reputations are tarnished? Expectations are very high, or the hatred of Rangers winning one title out of so many is more of a problem?

Everyone thought 10iar was an absolute certainty, that's the main issue, the fall from grace has been spectacular.

There's also a mental case section of all support bases and Celtic have their fare share. I see Rodgers praises being sung here (rightly so) but when he left he was the biggest Lundy in the world. Even Kieran Tierney got dog's abuse for wanting to better himself at Arsenal. There's no winning with some fans.

I think Celtic supporters, with hindsight, understand now why Rogers left.  That's understandable.

[screenexile]

Nobody can deny how good a job Lawell done at Celtic. In a business sense. Sadly this came at the expense of our progress in Europe and in a football sense ok general. I think that is where the dislike of Lawell has come in. Also the boards failure to really act over the whole rangers thing made a lot of people distrust him. And heated driveways

On what metric did Lawwell do a good job?

In terms of making profits for the board and shareholders?

Because it certainly wasn't anything on the football pitch. He took over the season after Seville.

On the football pitch we saw 17 years of austerity and record profits and bonuses at the corporate level. He chased away Rodgers who had been the best thing that happened to Celtic since O'Neill (who he was also guilty of chasing).

100% Celtic have done nothing on the field the last 17 years how has he been around so long!!

[marty34]

Like him or not Celtic have been an extremely well run club for the best part of 20 years. I'm old enough to remember the old Board and the laughing stock the club were back then. Look at the tribute act and their predecessors for examples of how not to run a club. I was frustrated at times as well with the "cheap" mentality but equally I am appreciative of how well the club has been managed financially. CEOs aren't paid to be popular and Lawwell is clearly one of the better football CEOs.
Having said all that his legacy is badly tarnished by this season and Lennon in particular. A terrible appointment from day 1 only made worse by the stubbornness of keeping him there

Can agree with this. This season will cast a shadow over his legacy. Well, this season and heated driveways

I think what Angelo is saying (is this correct Angelo) is that Celtic were decent thwy  could have been so much better.

[Angelo]

Like him or not Celtic have been an extremely well run club for the best part of 20 years. I'm old enough to remember the old Board and the laughing stock the club were back then. Look at the tribute act and their predecessors for examples of how not to run a club. I was frustrated at times as well with the "cheap" mentality but equally I am appreciative of how well the club has been managed financially. CEOs aren't paid to be popular and Lawwell is clearly one of the better football CEOs.
Having said all that his legacy is badly tarnished by this season and Lennon in particular. A terrible appointment from day 1 only made worse by the stubbornness of keeping him there

Can agree with this. This season will cast a shadow over his legacy. Well, this season and heated driveways

I think what Angelo is saying (is this correct Angelo) is that Celtic were decent thwy  could have been so much better.

I wouldn't even say we were decent. We haven't won a knockout European tie other than a qualifier since Larsson was at the club.

We won 9IAR because the huns went bust.

Lawwell trousered money as he ran down the football club, you only need to take a look at the transfer dealings every season and what his salary was to confirm that.

[Angelo]

Lawwell's tenure started in embarrassment. He arrived after Seville under Martin O'Neill - you know how much money we paid in O'Neill's squad on new players in that time? Zilch, we allowed a team get old with no investment, his most defining moment of the O'Neill era was to extend Badle's contract for another four years in order to keep him at the club at the manager's request with a stipulation Balde could leave on a free at the end of the season. Balde became the club's highest earner. What happened next - Balde decided to stay and Lawwell tried to force him out of the club. A standoff ensued, Balde was still the best defender at the club but Lawwell instructed management not to pick him and continued to try and force him out of the club with Balde eventually embarrassing Lawwell with his "you might be chief executive of Celtic but I am chief executive of Bobo Balde". After a few seasons of Caldwell and McManus embarrassing the Celtic shirt, Balde ran his contract down 4 years later having played 14 games in his final 3 seasons at Celtic Park as the club's highest earner. He went back to France and had a few solid seasons in Ligue 1 in his late 30s.

[tonto1888]

Nobody can deny how good a job Lawell done at Celtic. In a business sense. Sadly this came at the expense of our progress in Europe and in a football sense ok general. I think that is where the dislike of Lawell has come in. Also the boards failure to really act over the whole rangers thing made a lot of people distrust him. And heated driveways

On what metric did Lawwell do a good job?

In terms of making profits for the board and shareholders?

Because it certainly wasn't anything on the football pitch. He took over the season after Seville.

On the football pitch we saw 17 years of austerity and record profits and bonuses at the corporate level. He chased away Rodgers who had been the best thing that happened to Celtic since O'Neill (who he was also guilty of chasing).

Try reading further than the first sentence before replying in future kiddo.