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JimStynes

Lennon is a Celtic man but he isn't going to give up his payout. He wants sacked and I don't blame him. It's probably going to be his last big money earner so he's just right. And I'm sure every one of us would be the same if we were in his position.  It's the board need to take the blame for keeping him.

Angelo

Quote from: JimStynes on January 17, 2021, 09:55:56 AM
Lennon is a Celtic man but he isn't going to give up his payout. He wants sacked and I don't blame him. It's probably going to be his last big money earner so he's just right. And I'm sure every one of us would be the same if we were in his position.  It's the board need to take the blame for keeping him.

A Celtic man would have walked. Lennon is a mercenary who has always looked out after no 1.
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GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 17, 2021, 04:07:31 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 16, 2021, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 16, 2021, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on January 16, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

No contradictions there at all. Lennon didn't give his whole career to Celtic. Nobody ever came in for him when he was a Celtic player or manager, when he left Celtic his next port of call were Nottingham Forest and Wycombe and then Bolton/Hibs.

He is and was a mercenary, if he was any good he'd have been off at the first chance for more money but the bottom line was he was a very average player and an absolutely clueless manager.

What bigger clubs came in for him. I'm speaking about reality here. Celtic was the absolute peak of Lennon's career, for player of his ability he was absolutely blessed to play so many games for Celtic.

A poor man's Peter Grant.
I said most of his career.
You claimed he would be a mercenary if he left to go to a bigger club, he didn't leave to go to a bigger club. So calling him a mercenary is unsubstantiated and quite frankly wrong, and his Celtic career, has proven that he is anything but a mercenary. Your hypothetical and hypocritical claims don't hold water.

Angelo

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 17, 2021, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 17, 2021, 04:07:31 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 16, 2021, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 16, 2021, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on January 16, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

No contradictions there at all. Lennon didn't give his whole career to Celtic. Nobody ever came in for him when he was a Celtic player or manager, when he left Celtic his next port of call were Nottingham Forest and Wycombe and then Bolton/Hibs.

He is and was a mercenary, if he was any good he'd have been off at the first chance for more money but the bottom line was he was a very average player and an absolutely clueless manager.

What bigger clubs came in for him. I'm speaking about reality here. Celtic was the absolute peak of Lennon's career, for player of his ability he was absolutely blessed to play so many games for Celtic.

A poor man's Peter Grant.
I said most of his career.
You claimed he would be a mercenary if he left to go to a bigger club, he didn't leave to go to a bigger club. So calling him a mercenary is unsubstantiated and quite frankly wrong, and his Celtic career, has proven that he is anything but a mercenary. Your hypothetical and hypocritical claims don't hold water.

So what bigger clubs came in for him? Come on then, spit it out.

No bigger clubs came in for him because he had maxed out at Celtic. For me he was blessed to play for Celtic as he was a fairly average and limited player. He had no pace, no flair, no engine, he played short backward passes to defenders who were not good on the ball. I'm trying to think of another midfielder who made over 200 appearance for Celtic and scored only 3 goals for Celtic. I'm struggling to think of anyone with as paltry a return as that

He's a mercenary as if he was a Celtic man he'd have walked away, instead he is digging in for a payout after destroying the club. Utterly, utterly shameless.
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GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 17, 2021, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 17, 2021, 04:07:31 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 16, 2021, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 16, 2021, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on January 16, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

No contradictions there at all. Lennon didn't give his whole career to Celtic. Nobody ever came in for him when he was a Celtic player or manager, when he left Celtic his next port of call were Nottingham Forest and Wycombe and then Bolton/Hibs.

He is and was a mercenary, if he was any good he'd have been off at the first chance for more money but the bottom line was he was a very average player and an absolutely clueless manager.

What bigger clubs came in for him. I'm speaking about reality here. Celtic was the absolute peak of Lennon's career, for player of his ability he was absolutely blessed to play so many games for Celtic.

A poor man's Peter Grant.
I said most of his career.
You claimed he would be a mercenary if he left to go to a bigger club, he didn't leave to go to a bigger club. So calling him a mercenary is unsubstantiated and quite frankly wrong, and his Celtic career, has proven that he is anything but a mercenary. Your hypothetical and hypocritical claims don't hold water.

So what bigger clubs came in for him? Come on then, spit it out.

No bigger clubs came in for him because he had maxed out at Celtic. For me he was blessed to play for Celtic as he was a fairly average and limited player. He had no pace, no flair, no engine, he played short backward passes to defenders who were not good on the ball. I'm trying to think of another midfielder who made over 200 appearance for Celtic and scored only 3 goals for Celtic. I'm struggling to think of anyone with as paltry a return as that

He's a mercenary as if he was a Celtic man he'd have walked away, instead he is digging in for a payout after destroying the club. Utterly, utterly shameless.
I'll correct you again.
I didn't say a bigger club came in for him. I said he didn't leave to join a bigger club. Therefore calling him a mercenary is an unsubstantiated and hypothetical remark that is literally the opposite of being a mercenary. Saying he's a mercenary because he DIDNT leave doesn't make sense, and quite bizarre that you would be knocking a player for not actually leaving to go to a bigger club. Lennon can't win with boys like you. Damned if he stays, damned if he goes.

Angelo

I've already explained why I called him a mercenary.

Here it again for you.

If be was a Celtic man he would walked away from the job months ago, utterly ashamed of what he has done. Instead he has shamelessly held on for a payout. Neil Lennon looks after Neil Lennon, to hell with Celtic, he is shameless and has treated the fans with nothing but contempt this season.

Tommy Burns was a Celtic man.

Neil Lennon is a mercenary.
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GiveItToTheShooters

And I've already explained why this claim is unsubstantiated, hypothetical and hypocritical.

bannside

It all comes down to money.

Lennon walks away he breaks his contract. No big pay out.
If Celtic fire him he will get well compensated. Simple as that.

Mexican stand off.

marty34

Did Celtic not furlough a U20 or U21 team last week....the same week they spent god knows how much on a 'beer by the poolside' party'?

ned

Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 10:25:13 AM
I've already explained why I called him a mercenary.

Here it again for you.

If be was a Celtic man he would walked away from the job months ago, utterly ashamed of what he has done. Instead he has shamelessly held on for a payout. Neil Lennon looks after Neil Lennon, to hell with Celtic, he is shameless and has treated the fans with nothing but contempt this season.

Tommy Burns was a Celtic man.

Neil Lennon is a mercenary.

Angelo we get it! Neil Lennon is not your favourite person.
I don't know anyone who wants him to stay but comparing him to Peter Grant is POINTless. If you saw Grant play you would know Lennon was a better player and no argument. How many goals a midfielder scores, especially in the more modern game, is no relevance to ability. Paul Lambert was hardly free scoring. Was he crap?

tonto1888

Quote from: marty34 on January 17, 2021, 10:49:52 AM
Did Celtic not furlough a U20 or U21 team last week....the same week they spent god knows how much on a 'beer by the poolside' party'?

U18s

Angelo

Quote from: ned on January 17, 2021, 11:25:22 AM
Quote from: Angelo on January 17, 2021, 10:25:13 AM
I've already explained why I called him a mercenary.

Here it again for you.

If be was a Celtic man he would walked away from the job months ago, utterly ashamed of what he has done. Instead he has shamelessly held on for a payout. Neil Lennon looks after Neil Lennon, to hell with Celtic, he is shameless and has treated the fans with nothing but contempt this season.

Tommy Burns was a Celtic man.

Neil Lennon is a mercenary.

Angelo we get it! Neil Lennon is not your favourite person.
I don't know anyone who wants him to stay but comparing him to Peter Grant is POINTless. If you saw Grant play you would know Lennon was a better player and no argument. How many goals a midfielder scores, especially in the more modern game, is no relevance to ability. Paul Lambert was hardly free scoring. Was he crap?

I did see Grant play, I saw him play when he was coming to the end of his Celtic career. I also Lennon play. Lennon had a belly all through his Celtic career, he played in a team under Martin O'Neill who played very direct, back to front football. Lennon scored 3 goals in over 200 appearances for Celtic. Can you name me an outfield player with as pathetic a record as that for Celtic? He had no flair, no engine, no pace. He passed the buck everytime he got the ball. I can remember the UEFA Cup where the fans were going to nuts at him for consistently getting the ball and passing it back under no pressure to a back three who did not want the ball at their feet and were then pressed into hoofing it out of play or up the pitch. Grant was a very ordinary footballer but he did have far more to his game than Lennon did, he could get about the pitch, he could drive on and get the odd goal, he was a lot more creative on the ball.

Paul Lambert was free scoring in contrast to Lennon, absolutely no doubt, he could get about the pitch, he could create goals, he had a great range of passing. Lennon was effectively like Glen Whelan was for Ireland, a guy who sits in the middle and passes the buck to someone else. Lambert scored nearly 5 times the amount of goals for Celtic as Lennon did in over 20 games less.

I'll repeat again, have Celtic ever had an outfield player who scored less than 3 goals for Celtic in over 200 appearances?
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tyroneStatto

With Rangers dropping points today it's absolutely galling that Celtic are in this current position. It was criminal to go to Dubai and that was the final nail in the coffin for this season with the 4 points subsequently dropped as a result of going there.
I just cannot believe that Neil Lennon is still manger of Celtic football club. This must feel what it's like to be in the Twilight Zone.

tonto1888

Strachan said this about Lennon

"If you gave me £12m I couldn't guarantee finding someone with a winning mentality like Neil Lennon's."

But we will take the opinion of some random person on an Internet forum over him, yeah?

general_lee

Paul Lambert 35 career goals
Neil Lennon 25 career goals

Angelo clock out mate