The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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illdecide

I'm only stating to you guys what a man told me last night, if he was talking thru his hole then good luck to him and i'm sure what people don't know they'll make up. TBH we all know how it's going to pan out it's just a matter of when and the thing i said yesterday i still stand by it...If you're going to sack the man why wait? The players know he's for the chop, he knows he's for the chop. Jasus even the GAA Board know he's for the chop so what are they waiting on?
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lurganblue

One can only assume that there are discussions ongoing with the new manager and Lennon is still in place so there will be quick transition with no void? Probably giving the board more credit than they deserve here. They probably haven't drawn up a list of candidates or had any preliminary discussions.

illdecide

Quote from: lurganblue on December 08, 2020, 10:40:25 AM
One can only assume that there are discussions ongoing with the new manager and Lennon is still in place so there will be quick transition with no void? Probably giving the board more credit than they deserve here. They probably haven't drawn up a list of candidates or had any preliminary discussions.

I heard Paul Lambard's name mentioned and not sure what to think of that TBH...
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skeog

illdecide i heard Jim Mc Guinness is in the frame from a man who also works for Celtic.Now would you believe that.

lurganblue

Quote from: illdecide on December 08, 2020, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 08, 2020, 10:40:25 AM
One can only assume that there are discussions ongoing with the new manager and Lennon is still in place so there will be quick transition with no void? Probably giving the board more credit than they deserve here. They probably haven't drawn up a list of candidates or had any preliminary discussions.

I heard Paul Lambard's name mentioned and not sure what to think of that TBH...

He's obviously had some decent times as manager, like at Norwich. From following his time closely at Villa I was glad to see the back of him.  Maybe he could say he got a raw deal in terms of investment in the squad, but tactically I thought he was very poor.  Also, seemed to lack charisma.  I don't think the players bought in to what he was saying. Rubbed people up the wrong way.

His career went on a downward curve.

themac_23

That statement yesterday was a shambles, joke at the minute. Basically the statement said 'he's here to the new year so stop protesting cause its pointless' thats literally all it said, he's on a run that would get jack ross sacked at his ffs, just go Neil, please, let another man come in and get a side to gel give a good crack at the Scottish cup and be ready to get the title back next season. This car crash can't be allowed to continue.

Angelo

Quote from: illdecide on December 08, 2020, 10:11:22 AM
I'm only stating to you guys what a man told me last night, if he was talking thru his hole then good luck to him and i'm sure what people don't know they'll make up. TBH we all know how it's going to pan out it's just a matter of when and the thing i said yesterday i still stand by it...If you're going to sack the man why wait? The players know he's for the chop, he knows he's for the chop. Jasus even the GAA Board know he's for the chop so what are they waiting on?

So we're throwing away 10IAR to sate Lennon's ego.

The board need to go. If fans were allowed in stadiums there would be some very nasty scenes developing between the board and fans. It's unforgivable what has happened and it's the fact that Lawwell is the man who is responsible for this shambles and his milked Celtic for millions in bringing it to this point is what irks so many plans.

How many other clubs in the world have a suit as one of their highest earners at the club when they are such a shambles.

I can absolutely guarantee you next year that Rangers will have no issue the CL qualification route. Lennon is a pub team manager, I've heard the stories about the amateur setup in place at Celtic since Rodgers left. Rodgers was a brilliant coach as well as a manager, Lennon just chooses his friends, he's not interested about the training pitch, about bringing on young players and developing them, about picking players in form and training well. Nope it will be his chosen few again and again.

He needs to go and his legacy is utterly destroyed now among the Celtic fanbase, quite rightly so. If he was any bit a Celtic man he would have walked after the Ferencvaros game. We've been appalling under him since he took over from Rodgers, luck only goes so far and you can't keep relying on last minute winners against vastly inferior opposition after turgid displays.
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balladmaker

I'd say Celtic's problem at the min is that there is no queue of managers to replace NL.  If they fire him now, and have a stand-in from what also appears to be an inadequate backroom staff for a possibly prolonged period, what does that do for anyone. 

JimStynes

Rangers fans have a hashtag #lennonmuststay
Says it all

tyroneman

I think some other posters have hit nail on head....there is no obvious upgrade ready and willing to take over. 

Fans would not accept MoN or WGS back as representing any form of upgrade and others mentioned (e.g. L:ambert) sound like incredibly underwhelming prospects

Let's be honest.....for managers like Howe etc, even if we could afford him - I'd be really surprised if:

- a lack of funds in January (poss Summer 2021 too) from the CL/Europa disaster + CV-19 economy
- the prospect of the few good players we have being sold
- a currently poor/average underperforming squad
- minimal chance of getting 10iar (but still having all that pressure)
- the entitlement that (some) fans have of winning trebles every year

would actually entice any of them to take Celtic on midway through this season

Angelo

Quote from: balladmaker on December 08, 2020, 12:43:28 PM
I'd say Celtic's problem at the min is that there is no queue of managers to replace NL.  If they fire him now, and have a stand-in from what also appears to be an inadequate backroom staff for a possibly prolonged period, what does that do for anyone.

They have had two f**king months to be lining up a replacement.

We have had two international breaks where Lennon should have been ran and a new management team in there. It's absolute incompetence and a self serving attitude from the custodians of the club.
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Angelo

Quote from: tyroneman on December 08, 2020, 01:57:38 PM
I think some other posters have hit nail on head....there is no obvious upgrade ready and willing to take over. 

Fans would not accept MoN or WGS back as representing any form of upgrade and others mentioned (e.g. L:ambert) sound like incredibly underwhelming prospects

Let's be honest.....for managers like Howe etc, even if we could afford him - I'd be really surprised if:

- a lack of funds in January (poss Summer 2021 too) from the CL/Europa disaster + CV-19 economy
- the prospect of the few good players we have being sold
- a currently poor/average underperforming squad
- minimal chance of getting 10iar (but still having all that pressure)
- the entitlement that (some) fans have of winning trebles every year

would actually entice any of them to take Celtic on midway through this season

There's plenty of managers out there better than Lennon. He's not hard get an upgrade on. I wouldn't go near MON or Strachan. MON might get a tune out of them but I don't want Roy Keane anywhere near Celtic. Strachan is a terrible manager, his teams played woeful football and were poxed to do as well as they did.

I think Eddie Howe would be a decent appointment. There is plenty of quality in that Celtic squad, I've said it a few times but most of the problems seem to be training ground related. Lennon is like a pub team manager, he is incredibly lazy, has no tactical nous, no coaching or man management ability and just selects his favourites. What we need is a manager who will work with this team, who is incredibly dedicated and detailed to fixing our shortcomings and working with and improving the players.

Lennon doesn't have the will or determination to turn this around. A lot of things regarding the preparation and standards at Celtic and how they have fallen are extremely worrying. It's no surprise, when Ronny Deila took over from Lennon after his first spell, he was shocked at some of standards in place at Celtic under Lennon.

His quotes:

"When I see the tests players are doing, I see they have a lot to improve."

"Maybe I see things differently from what Neil was doing.

"For me, to be professional is to be a 24-hour athlete. If not, then you can go and start working outside football. That's not so hard. You can be amateurs again."

Lennon is a pub team manager, that's the bottom and end of it and how Lawwell ever saw fit to appoint him on a full time basis was embarrassing and we're not reaping what we sowed. It's as simple as Lawwell wanting someone he could control.
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tyroneman

Quote from: Angelo on December 08, 2020, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 08, 2020, 01:57:38 PM
I think some other posters have hit nail on head....there is no obvious upgrade ready and willing to take over. 

Fans would not accept MoN or WGS back as representing any form of upgrade and others mentioned (e.g. L:ambert) sound like incredibly underwhelming prospects

Let's be honest.....for managers like Howe etc, even if we could afford him - I'd be really surprised if:

- a lack of funds in January (poss Summer 2021 too) from the CL/Europa disaster + CV-19 economy
- the prospect of the few good players we have being sold
- a currently poor/average underperforming squad
- minimal chance of getting 10iar (but still having all that pressure)
- the entitlement that (some) fans have of winning trebles every year

would actually entice any of them to take Celtic on midway through this season

There's plenty of managers out there better than Lennon. He's not hard get an upgrade on. I wouldn't go near MON or Strachan. MON might get a tune out of them but I don't want Roy Keane anywhere near Celtic. Strachan is a terrible manager, his teams played woeful football and were poxed to do as well as they did.

I think Eddie Howe would be a decent appointment. There is plenty of quality in that Celtic squad, I've said it a few times but most of the problems seem to be training ground related. Lennon is like a pub team manager, he is incredibly lazy, has no tactical nous, no coaching or man management ability and just selects his favourites. What we need is a manager who will work with this team, who is incredibly dedicated and detailed to fixing our shortcomings and working with and improving the players.

Lennon doesn't have the will or determination to turn this around. A lot of things regarding the preparation and standards at Celtic and how they have fallen are extremely worrying. It's no surprise, when Ronny Deila took over from Lennon after his first spell, he was shocked at some of standards in place at Celtic under Lennon.

His quotes:

"When I see the tests players are doing, I see they have a lot to improve."

"Maybe I see things differently from what Neil was doing.

"For me, to be professional is to be a 24-hour athlete. If not, then you can go and start working outside football. That's not so hard. You can be amateurs again."

Lennon is a pub team manager, that's the bottom and end of it and how Lawwell ever saw fit to appoint him on a full time basis was embarrassing and we're not reaping what we sowed. It's as simple as Lawwell wanting someone he could control.

Of course there are  better managers than Lennon out there. The issue is....will any of them come in halfway though this season, in this situation, for what Celtic can afford to pay them.

Angelo

Quote from: tyroneman on December 08, 2020, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 08, 2020, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 08, 2020, 01:57:38 PM
I think some other posters have hit nail on head....there is no obvious upgrade ready and willing to take over. 

Fans would not accept MoN or WGS back as representing any form of upgrade and others mentioned (e.g. L:ambert) sound like incredibly underwhelming prospects

Let's be honest.....for managers like Howe etc, even if we could afford him - I'd be really surprised if:

- a lack of funds in January (poss Summer 2021 too) from the CL/Europa disaster + CV-19 economy
- the prospect of the few good players we have being sold
- a currently poor/average underperforming squad
- minimal chance of getting 10iar (but still having all that pressure)
- the entitlement that (some) fans have of winning trebles every year

would actually entice any of them to take Celtic on midway through this season

There's plenty of managers out there better than Lennon. He's not hard get an upgrade on. I wouldn't go near MON or Strachan. MON might get a tune out of them but I don't want Roy Keane anywhere near Celtic. Strachan is a terrible manager, his teams played woeful football and were poxed to do as well as they did.

I think Eddie Howe would be a decent appointment. There is plenty of quality in that Celtic squad, I've said it a few times but most of the problems seem to be training ground related. Lennon is like a pub team manager, he is incredibly lazy, has no tactical nous, no coaching or man management ability and just selects his favourites. What we need is a manager who will work with this team, who is incredibly dedicated and detailed to fixing our shortcomings and working with and improving the players.

Lennon doesn't have the will or determination to turn this around. A lot of things regarding the preparation and standards at Celtic and how they have fallen are extremely worrying. It's no surprise, when Ronny Deila took over from Lennon after his first spell, he was shocked at some of standards in place at Celtic under Lennon.

His quotes:

"When I see the tests players are doing, I see they have a lot to improve."

"Maybe I see things differently from what Neil was doing.

"For me, to be professional is to be a 24-hour athlete. If not, then you can go and start working outside football. That's not so hard. You can be amateurs again."

Lennon is a pub team manager, that's the bottom and end of it and how Lawwell ever saw fit to appoint him on a full time basis was embarrassing and we're not reaping what we sowed. It's as simple as Lawwell wanting someone he could control.

Of course there are  better managers than Lennon out there. The issue is....will any of them come in halfway though this season, in this situation, for what Celtic can afford to pay them.

Yes and yes.

Celtic can certainly afford a manager. They are debt free, have 22m in the bank and have a billionaire owner. The real question is not whether Celtic can afford a proper manager because clearly the can but are they willing to hire a manager who is not a yes man and beholden to Lawwell for the job. Peter Lawwell does want not anyone who will undermine his ability to cream money off Celtic Football Club. He did not like it one bit when Rodgers turned the fans against him.

I'd say they certainly would come in. Technically the league is still in Celtic's hands, we have a decent squad there, some very good players, much more natural than Rangers. At the minute if Celtic win all their remaining games we win the league so right now there is a big opportunity for someone to come in and do a job here.

The only real obstacle is the board who are unwilling to get rid of the yes man they control.

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JimStynes

Where is Dermot Desmond in all of this? Does he help Celtic financially at all? Apart from the Robbie Keane signing has he helped out in anyway? Surely he could have thrown some money in for the 10iar.