The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[tonto1888]

I know people will say that i'm biased because i know NL personally but all i'm saying (not defending him) is give him a chance and if he doesn't take his chance and he's not up to the task then give him a few quid and thank him for his efforts and move him on...Simple. I'm a Celtic fan first and I want whats best for Celtic but i'm prepared to give NL a chance and see how he performs, what's annoying me is people don't want him for the job without letting the fella have a proper go (their minds were made up the first day he took over).

To give him a chance means give him the job for another season? or give him a chance to see how Celtic win the treble this season and beat Rangers at Ibrox?

Give him a boot up his ginger hole and remind him how he let a bankrupt Rangers beat Celtic to the title 9 years ago, only for which they would now have 9 in a row instead of 8.

Apart from the fact liquidation followed the next season and they were still benefitting from being financially doped that season you are spot on!

Have a look back at that season again. At everything that happened. At some of the decisions that went against Celtic. Maybe you will change your mind

BS.  If you are suggesting that Rangers squad was better than Celtic's you are deluded.   The writing was on the wall long before liquidation and most of the best players sold on. Lennon and Brown got blindsided by a personal spat with  El Hadji Diouf and blew a league title they should have won easily.

[ned]

I know people will say that i'm biased because i know NL personally but all i'm saying (not defending him) is give him a chance and if he doesn't take his chance and he's not up to the task then give him a few quid and thank him for his efforts and move him on...Simple. I'm a Celtic fan first and I want whats best for Celtic but i'm prepared to give NL a chance and see how he performs, what's annoying me is people don't want him for the job without letting the fella have a proper go (their minds were made up the first day he took over).

To give him a chance means give him the job for another season? or give him a chance to see how Celtic win the treble this season and beat Rangers at Ibrox?

Give him a boot up his ginger hole and remind him how he let a bankrupt Rangers beat Celtic to the title 9 years ago, only for which they would now have 9 in a row instead of 8.

Apart from the fact liquidation followed the next season and they were still benefitting from being financially doped that season you are spot on!

BS.  If you are suggesting that Rangers squad was better than Celtic's you are deluded.   The writing was on the wall long before liquidation and most of the best players sold on. Lennon and Brown got blindsided by a personal spat with  El Hadji Diouf and blew a league title they should have won easily.

You appear to have forgotten what went on that season as tonto said.
To refresh your memory, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/28/dougie-mdconald-scottish-referee&ved=2ahUKEwik_4a5n9nhAhXbQRUIHWTyDogQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1i5SNxWCW1h74wpiMONb3N
We would have needed to be streets ahead not JUST better to have won the league that year.

[illdecide]

Interesting time ahead for the Hoops, get the title is in the bag and then start getting some of the development players games and see what they're made off. Young Dembele, Oko-Flex and Henderson are def 3 than we would expect to make the step up. Bringing 3 young players through would be unbelievable  into the first team but they are more than capable.
We have to seriously consider Maryan Shved and Bayo too for next season (possibly L Morgan on loan too), there is no doubt Celtic will need to invest in one quality Centre Half possibly two (Jozo Simunovic is a decent player but is too often on the treatment table) and a right back are a must for next season. Get L Griffiths back fit for next season and we'll have Leigh, Edouard and Bayo fighting it out for a spot. NL may well play two up front a lot more than BR did so another striker could be on the radar too.

I want to see Izaguirre leave (didn't do anything wrong, he's just not the quality we need), Dedryck Boyata (can't stand that man, after what he done last summer i'll never take to him so praying he doesn't sign a new contract. The worrying thing is the manager that was going to sign him is leaving his post so they may not want him now), Lustig may well get another year and can still play rightly but we do have to have cover there and he may well go back to Sweden. If NL gets the job permanent then it could end the career of Sinclair as it's clear Lennon doesn't fancy him.

As for the loanee's...Burke is raw, he has pace and power but his ball skills seem poor. Don't think he'd be worth the fee West Brom would be looking for him, Weah is decent but still haven't seen enough of him. Hard to know what way he'll go (back to PSG or stay with us for another year with an option to buy) Arzani is a talent but never got to see his talents and unfortunately got a bad injury. Probably see more of him next season before he moves back to his parent club...interesting summer ahead as we know the tribute act will try and buy their way out of Celtic going for 9 and ten in a row, Celtic really need to make a big statement this summer in the transfer market and blow the rest of them away. This may well be their last chance as if we are mediocre again this summer we will allow Sevco to get closer to us and that would be criminal...FFS bury them once and for all

[Main Street]

Dedryck Boyata (can't stand that man, after what he done last summer i'll never take to him so praying he doesn't sign a new contract. The worrying thing is the manager that was going to sign him is leaving his post so they may not want him now),

Catch yourself on with Boyate,
It's football realism that players want to move on to the epl or bigger.
Where do you think Scott Brown came from?  a green stork?
When he was at Hibs a big club had made a move to lure him away, Hibs did not want him to go. Brown put in a transfer request and demanded to be let go. Was that club not Celtic?
As my  mother use to say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
What was good for Brown is equally good for Boyate.

[illdecide]

Dedryck Boyata (can't stand that man, after what he done last summer i'll never take to him so praying he doesn't sign a new contract. The worrying thing is the manager that was going to sign him is leaving his post so they may not want him now),

Catch yourself on with Boyate,
It's football realism that players want to move on to the epl or bigger.
Where do you think Scott Brown came from?  a green stork?
When he was at Hibs a big club had made a move to lure him away, Hibs did not want him to go. Brown put in a transfer request and demanded to be let go. Was that club not Celtic?
As my  mother use to say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
What was good for Brown is equally good for Boyate.

I don't have green tinted glasses on and can see nothing only Celtic, I know what you're saying and you have a point but Boyata refused to play and for me was a major reason we din't make the Champions League...no matter what was going on he should have played and sorted his contract/transfer out later, it was unprofessional and down right lack of respect for the club and his team mates. He was glad of Celtic and then he gets a cap for Belgium and thinks he's VVD and TBH i think he's very ordinary anyway. I would feel the same way if it was S Brown and my honest opinion is he should never have played for the club again, no player is bigger than the club and the tail was wagging the dog

[tyroneStatto]

Thought Celtic had turned a corner last week but it was another horrible performance today. This league isn't done. Another 2 draws before going to ibrox (not unlikely) would give Rangers a massive lifeline.

[marty34]

Thought Celtic had turned a corner last week but it was another horrible performance today. This league isn't done. Another 2 draws before going to ibrox (not unlikely) would give Rangers a massive lifeline.

Celtic have the league but, as you say, very underwhelming performance once again. No consistency to their game - decent then average. Fizz seems, for some reason, to have gone.

Either that or they know they have the league and are holding out for cup final. 

Personally I'd freshen up the team in league now with younger lads from academy who are showing potential.  That way at lwast, you'd hope for a bit of bite and zip in the performances.  Flat at present.

[From the Bunker]

Are Celtic trying to generate interest in the last old firm of the year by slacking off in the League?

[Over the Bar]

Are Celtic trying to generate interest in the last old firm of the year by slacking off in the League?

Winning the league at Castle Greyskull would make a change to going there already crowned champions!

[BennyCake]

Are Celtic trying to generate interest in the last old firm of the year by slacking off in the League?

Winning the league at Castle Greyskull would make a change to going there already crowned champions!

Does that make Neil Lennon 'He-Man' then?

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Are Celtic trying to generate interest in the last old firm of the year by slacking off in the League?

Winning the league at Castle Greyskull would make a change to going there already crowned champions!

Does that make Neil Lennon 'He-Man' then?

It would make him skeletor. Wasn't castle greyskull good and snake mountain bad or has my Alzheimer's kicked in

[MoChara]

Are Celtic trying to generate interest in the last old firm of the year by slacking off in the League?

Winning the league at Castle Greyskull would make a change to going there already crowned champions!

Does that make Neil Lennon 'He-Man' then?

It would make him skeletor. Wasn't castle greyskull good and snake mountain bad or has my Alzheimer's kicked in

He-man did shout by the power of Grey Skull, maybe he was the baddy all along.

[illdecide]

The moment of clarity came to me in injury time at Easter Road, as Tom Rogic placed the ball on the edge of the box. Even if that moment had brought another fully deserved late winner, a trait that some feel is against the law of the sport, the moment of clarity was before the ball was struck, before he hit the wall, before Jozo Simunovic headed straight at the goalie and Odsonne Édouard had missed a one-on-one. It was at that point that I decided that, if Neil Lennon is our manager for next season, we should announce it. Right there and then. Press conference after the game, no matter the result.

I can no longer live in this football purgatory, which is a place populated by nearly nil-nils, the stodgy and forgettable style of play of August to December, last minute winners and high blood pressure.

I wrote previously that Brendan Rodgers was living in my head. The game at Easter Road was the game that I changed the locks and I will see him at family occasions sometime in the future once his banishment is up. Lennon, after the game, seemed like a man who has that lodger now stalking everything that he does. He admitted last week that he felt like he was driving someone else's prestige car and that his office was now so big that it is in two postcodes. People interpreted his post-match yesterday as a Gerrardesque 'throwing his players under a bus' rant. It wasn't. It was a sign of a frustrated football coach who is in an impossible situation.

He quite rightly points out that he hasn't changed much and this is not an excuse for failure. This is just fact. Many experts who have been in more changing rooms and know the psychological makeup of players better than me have come out and said he has a squad conditioned to play a certain way, drilled to play certain patterns, used to certain training routines and days off, used to a certain style of management that has brought unprecedented success to the club, and to try and change that at the business end of the season would be disastrous.

He has changed personnel. He and the coaching staff have reverted to the players that have got us here over the previous two seasons. Players that were running on empty from August to December who then got a boost with the loan signings and the winter break but all that feel good disappeared when Rodgers left.



Lennon also seems to favour Jonny Hayes who has become a convenient scapegoat, despite his performances not meriting that tag. The players, if they were being honest, would say that they haven't been at their consistent and relentless best since the late 2017 and that the cycle of this team is coming to an end. It happens to all best sides and is the nature of football. The state of uncertainty in the club is not helping them.

Appointing Lennon is going to be seen as a backward step. Appointing anyone bar another Rodgers level of coach, which seems unlikely from my point of view now, will be seen as this. We also have the following Alex Ferguson effect that we saw at Manchester United, the next man in the seat is on a hiding to nothing before you add the possibility of going for nine. Lennon is strong enough to take that responsibility, not many are.

The board are aware of this. They are also aware that any appointment that is not box office will see a drop in season ticket sales and match day revenue. But if Lennon is the only candidate in town they should no longer treat us with kid gloves and hope that winning another treble makes the appointment easier. The Celtic support is firing shells at each other and we are in a wasteland of opinion, burned out houses and uncertainty while pining for the Invincible, vintage Celtic, which no longer exists. Another treble isn't going to change that.

I'm into psychogeography and record some games at Celtic Park. I feel that the noise of the stadium during a game can tell you more than any written opinion afterwards. The last game I recorded was Lennon's first home game against Aberdeen. The game has the sound of hope and the emotion of defiance that you can feel slowly slip away into unsureness as the minutes tick down. That ninety minutes sums up what I feel now.

I feel that we could regain purpose if the club announces Lennon, if that is the plan. Then the man can walk into the dressing room, have the conversations that need to be had and look his players in the eye and see who is with him for the long haul. We can let the man be the coach and not the caretaker. This might be the boost we need to get us over the line with some style and into history.

[marty34]

RIP Billy Mc Neill.

Some leader.

[Over the Bar]

RIP Billy Mc Neill.

Some leader.

Hail Caesar! RIP big man